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janneman · 09-25-2008, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by vinzer

Uh huh. Pros using CMOS DSLRs (any brand) never complained about colors being off with their cameras.

If CMOS is such a disgrace, no decent camera manufacturer would have even considered putting it in their cameras.

There are some prblems reported in DPReview Canon forum

janneman · 09-25-2008, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by ogl

2. Use remote control. It's smaller and lighter..

In fact. it is so small and light I have already lost two of them...
Maybe they will make it bigger and with something like a keycord.....

janneman · 09-25-2008, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by RMabo

I believe many hates AA because they believe that they don't last long.
But in the K-m, they last longer (according to the specifications) than the non-AA batteri in the K10D etc. So for the K-m, I don't understand the fear of AA batteries.

I hated AA until I got me some eneloops....
Problem with any old AA at the shop is that you are never sure how charged they are, I had reputable AA last only 50 shots, while "bad"brands sometimes lasted a few hundred

vinzer · 09-25-2008, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by janneman

There are some prblems reported in DPReview Canon forum

What about Sony's and Panasonic's sensors? Surely this must be due to bad sensor and/or image processing engine design than actual flaws of CCD versus CMOS technology?

Of course, I could be wrong about things, but I really do think CMOS tech, by itself, isn't that atrocious when it comes to color rendition.

ogl · 09-25-2008, 10:32 PM

To launch K-m is very smart move from Pentax.

All small cameras from other brands are not new at the market.
There are no new small entry-level cameras from another brand close to Christmas.
Nikon D90 is higher class and more expensive, A900 and 5D Mk II are top FF.
Panasonic G1 has higher price!!!

If Pentax K-m will be in first 10 places on Japan DSLR market - it will be great success.
everybody can check it here close to November
??????????? | BCN?????

Mr. The Guy · 09-26-2008, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by ogl

To launch K-m is very smart move from Pentax

I guess, being Japanese they saw how fiat money was destroying the US economy like theirs was destroyed in the 90's. Could you imagine trying to sell a high priced camera just as a recession was starting? On the Pentax Japan site, PENTAX, it's obviously marketed to females. Probably more luck than planning though...
Has anyone found the pdf owner's manual yet? Please notify me if you found it somewhere.

Marcus · 09-26-2008, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by Mr. The Guy

On the Pentax Japan site, PENTAX, it's obviously marketed to females.

Yeah, on the site, there's actually a shot of a woman dropping a K-m into a purse that also has a TOMATO in it. (?????!)

I can't understand Japanese culture.

ogl · 09-26-2008, 04:45 AM

The price in Japan 59800 yen for kit, 49800 yen for body.

**rparmar** · 09-26-2008, 07:50 AM

[QUOTE=Marcus;352899]Yeah, on the site, there's actually a shot of a woman dropping a K-m into a purse that also has a TOMATO in it. (?????!)

/QUOTE]

I do think that's supposed to be a bag of groceries, not a purse. But it does look strangely like the camera is being inserted into the tomato.

Never mind weather-proofing, is the K-m fruit-proof?

Alfisti · 09-26-2008, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by rparmar

Yes. So I can accurately focus in small DOF situations with a subject off-centre. I take shots like this all the time. Focus-recompose is inaccurate.

I can live with 5 points but not being able to select them is just a slap in the face. It costs NOTHING and really, well, that just $hits me to be honest.

Alfisti · 09-26-2008, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by RMabo

So for the K-m, I don't understand the fear of AA batteries.

They are heavy and an absolute SOB to change on the fly.

thibs · 09-26-2008, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Alfisti

They are heavy and an absolute SOB to change on the fly.

Ever heard of Lithium? Seems not.

thibs · 09-26-2008, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by Alfisti

I can live with 5 points but not being able to select them is just a slap in the face. It costs NOTHING and really, well, that just $hits me to be honest.

Are you a newbie? No? Why complaining about a camera which is in no way made for you?

Alfisti · 09-26-2008, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Ever heard of Lithium? Seems not.

But they do not re-charge, that is why LIon makes so much sense.

Alfisti · 09-26-2008, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Are you a newbie? No? Why complaining about a camera which is in no way made for you?

because I want the smaller size and not being able to select an AF point is just childish from any camera manufacturer.

09-25-2008, 09:11 AM	#62
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	aaargh, remote control Originally posted by ogl 2. Use remote control. It's smaller and lighter.. In fact. it is so small and light I have already lost two of them... Maybe they will make it bigger and with something like a keycord.....

09-26-2008, 01:26 AM	#66
Mr. The Guy Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vilcabamba, Loja Posts: 216	The Depression Camera Originally posted by ogl To launch K-m is very smart move from Pentax I guess, being Japanese they saw how fiat money was destroying the US economy like theirs was destroyed in the 90's. Could you imagine trying to sell a high priced camera just as a recession was starting? On the Pentax Japan site, PENTAX, it's obviously marketed to females. Probably more luck than planning though... Has anyone found the pdf owner's manual yet? Please notify me if you found it somewhere.

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09-25-2008, 09:10 AM	#61
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by vinzer Uh huh. Pros using CMOS DSLRs (any brand) never complained about colors being off with their cameras. If CMOS is such a disgrace, no decent camera manufacturer would have even considered putting it in their cameras. There are some prblems reported in DPReview Canon forum

09-25-2008, 09:15 AM	#63
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by RMabo I believe many hates AA because they believe that they don't last long. But in the K-m, they last longer (according to the specifications) than the non-AA batteri in the K10D etc. So for the K-m, I don't understand the fear of AA batteries. I hated AA until I got me some eneloops.... Problem with any old AA at the shop is that you are never sure how charged they are, I had reputable AA last only 50 shots, while "bad"brands sometimes lasted a few hundred

09-25-2008, 05:50 PM	#64
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Originally posted by janneman There are some prblems reported in DPReview Canon forum What about Sony's and Panasonic's sensors? Surely this must be due to bad sensor and/or image processing engine design than actual flaws of CCD versus CMOS technology? Of course, I could be wrong about things, but I really do think CMOS tech, by itself, isn't that atrocious when it comes to color rendition.

09-25-2008, 10:32 PM	#65
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	To launch K-m is very smart move from Pentax. All small cameras from other brands are not new at the market. There are no new small entry-level cameras from another brand close to Christmas. Nikon D90 is higher class and more expensive, A900 and 5D Mk II are top FF. Panasonic G1 has higher price!!! If Pentax K-m will be in first 10 places on Japan DSLR market - it will be great success. everybody can check it here close to November ??????????? \| BCN?????

09-26-2008, 04:02 AM	#67
Marcus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 187	Originally posted by Mr. The Guy On the Pentax Japan site, PENTAX, it's obviously marketed to females. Yeah, on the site, there's actually a shot of a woman dropping a K-m into a purse that also has a TOMATO in it. (?????!) I can't understand Japanese culture.

09-26-2008, 04:45 AM	#68
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	The price in Japan 59800 yen for kit, 49800 yen for body.

09-26-2008, 07:50 AM	#69
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	[QUOTE=Marcus;352899]Yeah, on the site, there's actually a shot of a woman dropping a K-m into a purse that also has a TOMATO in it. (?????!) /QUOTE] I do think that's supposed to be a bag of groceries, not a purse. But it does look strangely like the camera is being inserted into the tomato. Never mind weather-proofing, is the K-m fruit-proof?

09-26-2008, 08:19 AM	#70
Alfisti Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto (for now) Posts: 1,748	Originally posted by rparmar Yes. So I can accurately focus in small DOF situations with a subject off-centre. I take shots like this all the time. Focus-recompose is inaccurate. I can live with 5 points but not being able to select them is just a slap in the face. It costs NOTHING and really, well, that just $hits me to be honest.

09-26-2008, 08:22 AM	#71
Alfisti Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto (for now) Posts: 1,748	Originally posted by RMabo So for the K-m, I don't understand the fear of AA batteries. They are heavy and an absolute SOB to change on the fly.

09-26-2008, 09:03 AM	#72
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Alfisti They are heavy and an absolute SOB to change on the fly. Ever heard of Lithium? Seems not.

09-26-2008, 09:04 AM	#73
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Alfisti I can live with 5 points but not being able to select them is just a slap in the face. It costs NOTHING and really, well, that just $hits me to be honest. Are you a newbie? No? Why complaining about a camera which is in no way made for you?

09-26-2008, 09:12 AM	#74
Alfisti Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto (for now) Posts: 1,748	Originally posted by thibs Ever heard of Lithium? Seems not. But they do not re-charge, that is why LIon makes so much sense.

09-26-2008, 09:13 AM	#75
Alfisti Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto (for now) Posts: 1,748	Originally posted by thibs Are you a newbie? No? Why complaining about a camera which is in no way made for you? because I want the smaller size and not being able to select an AF point is just childish from any camera manufacturer.