Ricoh GR III

ogl · 10-01-2018, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by regular67

no EVF planned, and not available before Q2 2019, says the rumor.
https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/some-additional-ricoh-griii-info/

In stores: Q1 2019 is planned. You read in rather strange manner...

regular67 · 10-01-2018, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by ogl

In stores: Q1 2019 is planned. You read in rather strange manner...

"Q1 2019 is planned. But mainly Q2 only…", it is only a rumor anyway.

Ishpuini · 10-01-2018, 06:44 AM - **3 Likes**

Strange thing I never looked at the GR before last Saturday, when I handled the GR II at Photokina. Previous years, I guess Pentax always kept me distracted by new stuff that was more directly interesting to me. Not so this year, so I got to notice the GR II and III...

Boy, what a revelation!!

I have always loved my Q and Q-S1, but regretted the little 01 lens has a slightly too narrow FoV for me to use it even more than I do. And although the Q-S1's IQ was always within expectations, it was so only just... In short, without realizing it, the GR III is the very real answer to what I was hoping Pentax would resurrect the Q series to become in a probably nonexistent future...

Well, I added the GR III to the top of my 2019 shopping list!!

Wim

regular67 · 10-01-2018, 08:30 AM

thinking aloud : shouldnt Ricoh be afraid of Fuji's "twin razor blade" marketing strategy ?

A Fuji XF10, with a lower feature proposition, to cut Ricoh short on its price positioning (500$ for 24MP APS-C, etc).
Based on the XF10's lower specs, Ricoh then defines the current GRiii prototype (with an eye on cost).

Later, Fuji releases a hypothetical Fuji XF80(?) to overtake's Ricoh value proposition.

In such hypothesis, it would be a bad move that Ricoh published their specifications 6 months before street availability.

awscreo · 10-01-2018, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by regular67

thinking aloud : shouldnt Ricoh be afraid of Fuji's "twin razor blade" marketing strategy ?

A Fuji XF10, with a lower feature proposition, to cut Ricoh short on its price positioning (500$ for 24MP APS-C, etc).
Based on the XF10's lower specs, Ricoh then defines the current GRiii prototype (with an eye on cost).

Later, Fuji releases a hypothetical Fuji XF80(?) to overtake's Ricoh value proposition.

In such hypothesis, it would be a bad move that Ricoh published their specifications 6 months before street availability.

XF10 is getting panned quite a bit, even from fuji fans. AF is worse than 2016 GRII. People say it feels cheap-ish. I'd be more worried about XF80 (if it is announced before GRIII arrives).
I was considering XF10, but after reading stuff online decided to get Ricoh instead.

illdefined · 10-01-2018, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by awscreo

XF10 is getting panned quite a bit, even from fuji fans. AF is worse than 2016 GRII. People say it feels cheap-ish. I'd be more worried about XF80 (if it is announced before GRIII arrives).
I was considering XF10, but after reading stuff online decided to get Ricoh instead.

the XF10 looks very similar on paper (especially now that Ricoh is shedding controls) but two words assure it can never truly replace a GR:

Lens. Cap.

victormeldrew · 10-01-2018, 01:59 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by regular67

thinking aloud : shouldnt Ricoh be afraid of Fuji's "twin razor blade" marketing strategy ?

A Fuji XF10, with a lower feature proposition, to cut Ricoh short on its price positioning (500$ for 24MP APS-C, etc).
Based on the XF10's lower specs, Ricoh then defines the current GRiii prototype (with an eye on cost).

Later, Fuji releases a hypothetical Fuji XF80(?) to overtake's Ricoh value proposition.

In such hypothesis, it would be a bad move that Ricoh published their specifications 6 months before street availability.

I played with one a while...I thought it might be a cheaper, better GR. I hated it...play is the right word, it felt and acted like a cheap toy.

They would need a radical redesign to make it even come close to the GRII I bought shortly after.

regular67 · 10-02-2018, 12:59 AM

Here we go! Street-aquariphilist, this camera was designed for ya!
And dont you dare using this flash, or you will frighten the fishes away :

???????? ?????? | GR official | ??????????????

Maybe next revision will be intended to food-blogers, train-spotters ... or even street-photo.

(dont feel obliged to comment if you lost your funny bone in the dark corner of a street ... or of a public aquarium

swanlefitte · 10-02-2018, 03:55 AM

I am trying to figure out how continuous mode helps when fish are surprisingly early.
I didn't know the gr digital iv had iOS 80 which is great for photographing jellyfish in the dark.
I keep learing.

Eyewanders · 10-02-2018, 04:16 PM - **2 Likes**

There are times my boriscletunderstanding grows in fits and spurts.

Gosh the new GRIII announcement sure looks interesting though.

thibs · 10-03-2018, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

Strange thing I never looked at the GR before last Saturday, when I handled the GR II at Photokina. Previous years, I guess Pentax always kept me distracted by new stuff that was more directly interesting to me. Not so this year, so I got to notice the GR II and III...

Boy, what a revelation!!

I have always loved my Q and Q-S1, but regretted the little 01 lens has a slightly too narrow FoV for me to use it even more than I do. And although the Q-S1's IQ was always within expectations, it was so only just... In short, without realizing it, the GR III is the very real answer to what I was hoping Pentax would resurrect the Q series to become in a probably nonexistent future...

Well, I added the GR III to the top of my 2019 shopping list!!

Wim

Wim, The GR is a pure photographer's tool.
I have a GR (I) and I love it everytime I used it . Of course it has limitations but it has been surprisingly useful.

Even concerts shots can turn amazing and this really is not supposed to be it's best use.
I could lend it to you if ya want.

Ishpuini · 10-03-2018, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Wim, The GR is a pure photographer's tool.
I have a GR (I) and I love it everytime I used it . Of course it has limitations but it has been surprisingly useful.

Even concerts shots can turn amazing and this really is not supposed to be it's best use.
I could lend it to you if ya want.

Tx Thibs! Now I remember that you had one indeed. Somewhere in the back of my mind I did always know it must have been a great tool from seeing who liked it, but for some strange reason (human nature?) I never considered it for myself... I'll keep your offer in mind, though it's very busy times the next few months, so by the time I have time to do some street photography, we'll probably be in the next year, and who knows... the GR III might already be available. ;-)

grtz, Wim

thibs · 10-03-2018, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

Tx Thibs! Now I remember that you had one indeed. Somewhere in the back of my mind I did always know it must have been a great tool from seeing who liked it, but for some strange reason (human nature?) I never considered it for myself... I'll keep your offer in mind, though it's very busy times the next few months, so by the time I have time to do some street photography, we'll probably be in the next year, and who knows... the GR III might already be available. ;-)

grtz, Wim

You know how to contact me

**savoche** · 10-04-2018, 01:30 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by chickentender

There are compact flash units available, but one specific to the GR would be quite nice.

I just got myself a Lume Cube. While not a flash, it's small and compact. Haven't had any time to try it properly, though. It could well be that it simply isn't powerful enough to act as a wannabe flash. But a waterproof and bluetooth controllable light ought to be useful for something

Eyewanders · 10-04-2018, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by savoche

I just got myself a Lume Cube. While not a flash, it's small and compact. Haven't had any time to try it properly, though. It could well be that it simply isn't powerful enough to act as a wannabe flash. But a waterproof and bluetooth controllable light ought to be useful for something

Those are quite cool. I was just looking at the Litra a couple of days ago.

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10-01-2018, 03:17 AM	#346
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by regular67 no EVF planned, and not available before Q2 2019, says the rumor. https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/some-additional-ricoh-griii-info/ In stores: Q1 2019 is planned. You read in rather strange manner...

10-01-2018, 04:26 AM	#347
regular67 New Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 20	Originally posted by ogl In stores: Q1 2019 is planned. You read in rather strange manner... "Q1 2019 is planned. But mainly Q2 only…", it is only a rumor anyway.

10-01-2018, 06:44 AM - 3 Likes	#348
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Strange thing I never looked at the GR before last Saturday, when I handled the GR II at Photokina. Previous years, I guess Pentax always kept me distracted by new stuff that was more directly interesting to me. Not so this year, so I got to notice the GR II and III... Boy, what a revelation!! I have always loved my Q and Q-S1, but regretted the little 01 lens has a slightly too narrow FoV for me to use it even more than I do. And although the Q-S1's IQ was always within expectations, it was so only just... In short, without realizing it, the GR III is the very real answer to what I was hoping Pentax would resurrect the Q series to become in a probably nonexistent future... Well, I added the GR III to the top of my 2019 shopping list!! Wim

10-01-2018, 08:30 AM	#349
regular67 New Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 20	thinking aloud : shouldnt Ricoh be afraid of Fuji's "twin razor blade" marketing strategy ? A Fuji XF10, with a lower feature proposition, to cut Ricoh short on its price positioning (500$ for 24MP APS-C, etc). Based on the XF10's lower specs, Ricoh then defines the current GRiii prototype (with an eye on cost). Later, Fuji releases a hypothetical Fuji XF80(?) to overtake's Ricoh value proposition. In such hypothesis, it would be a bad move that Ricoh published their specifications 6 months before street availability.

10-01-2018, 08:38 AM	#350
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722	Originally posted by regular67 thinking aloud : shouldnt Ricoh be afraid of Fuji's "twin razor blade" marketing strategy ? A Fuji XF10, with a lower feature proposition, to cut Ricoh short on its price positioning (500$ for 24MP APS-C, etc). Based on the XF10's lower specs, Ricoh then defines the current GRiii prototype (with an eye on cost). Later, Fuji releases a hypothetical Fuji XF80(?) to overtake's Ricoh value proposition. In such hypothesis, it would be a bad move that Ricoh published their specifications 6 months before street availability. XF10 is getting panned quite a bit, even from fuji fans. AF is worse than 2016 GRII. People say it feels cheap-ish. I'd be more worried about XF80 (if it is announced before GRIII arrives). I was considering XF10, but after reading stuff online decided to get Ricoh instead.

10-01-2018, 09:34 AM	#351
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by awscreo XF10 is getting panned quite a bit, even from fuji fans. AF is worse than 2016 GRII. People say it feels cheap-ish. I'd be more worried about XF80 (if it is announced before GRIII arrives). I was considering XF10, but after reading stuff online decided to get Ricoh instead. the XF10 looks very similar on paper (especially now that Ricoh is shedding controls) but two words assure it can never truly replace a GR: Lens. Cap.

10-01-2018, 01:59 PM - 1 Like	#352
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by regular67 thinking aloud : shouldnt Ricoh be afraid of Fuji's "twin razor blade" marketing strategy ? A Fuji XF10, with a lower feature proposition, to cut Ricoh short on its price positioning (500$ for 24MP APS-C, etc). Based on the XF10's lower specs, Ricoh then defines the current GRiii prototype (with an eye on cost). Later, Fuji releases a hypothetical Fuji XF80(?) to overtake's Ricoh value proposition. In such hypothesis, it would be a bad move that Ricoh published their specifications 6 months before street availability. I played with one a while...I thought it might be a cheaper, better GR. I hated it...play is the right word, it felt and acted like a cheap toy. They would need a radical redesign to make it even come close to the GRII I bought shortly after.

10-02-2018, 12:59 AM	#353
regular67 New Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 20	Here we go! Street-aquariphilist, this camera was designed for ya! And dont you dare using this flash, or you will frighten the fishes away : ???????? ?????? \| GR official \| ?????????????? Maybe next revision will be intended to food-blogers, train-spotters ... or even street-photo. (dont feel obliged to comment if you lost your funny bone in the dark corner of a street ... or of a public aquarium

10-02-2018, 03:55 AM	#354
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	I am trying to figure out how continuous mode helps when fish are surprisingly early. I didn't know the gr digital iv had iOS 80 which is great for photographing jellyfish in the dark. I keep learing.

10-02-2018, 04:16 PM - 2 Likes	#355
Eyewanders Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Land of the Salish Sea Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,343	There are times my boriscletunderstanding grows in fits and spurts. Gosh the new GRIII announcement sure looks interesting though.

10-03-2018, 07:13 AM	#356
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Ishpuini Strange thing I never looked at the GR before last Saturday, when I handled the GR II at Photokina. Previous years, I guess Pentax always kept me distracted by new stuff that was more directly interesting to me. Not so this year, so I got to notice the GR II and III... Boy, what a revelation!! I have always loved my Q and Q-S1, but regretted the little 01 lens has a slightly too narrow FoV for me to use it even more than I do. And although the Q-S1's IQ was always within expectations, it was so only just... In short, without realizing it, the GR III is the very real answer to what I was hoping Pentax would resurrect the Q series to become in a probably nonexistent future... Well, I added the GR III to the top of my 2019 shopping list!! Wim Wim, The GR is a pure photographer's tool. I have a GR (I) and I love it everytime I used it . Of course it has limitations but it has been surprisingly useful. Even concerts shots can turn amazing and this really is not supposed to be it's best use. I could lend it to you if ya want.

10-03-2018, 08:03 AM	#357
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by thibs Wim, The GR is a pure photographer's tool. I have a GR (I) and I love it everytime I used it . Of course it has limitations but it has been surprisingly useful. Even concerts shots can turn amazing and this really is not supposed to be it's best use. I could lend it to you if ya want. Tx Thibs! Now I remember that you had one indeed. Somewhere in the back of my mind I did always know it must have been a great tool from seeing who liked it, but for some strange reason (human nature?) I never considered it for myself... I'll keep your offer in mind, though it's very busy times the next few months, so by the time I have time to do some street photography, we'll probably be in the next year, and who knows... the GR III might already be available. ;-) grtz, Wim

10-03-2018, 01:25 PM	#358
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Ishpuini Tx Thibs! Now I remember that you had one indeed. Somewhere in the back of my mind I did always know it must have been a great tool from seeing who liked it, but for some strange reason (human nature?) I never considered it for myself... I'll keep your offer in mind, though it's very busy times the next few months, so by the time I have time to do some street photography, we'll probably be in the next year, and who knows... the GR III might already be available. ;-) grtz, Wim You know how to contact me

10-04-2018, 01:30 AM - 2 Likes	#359
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by chickentender There are compact flash units available, but one specific to the GR would be quite nice. I just got myself a Lume Cube. While not a flash, it's small and compact. Haven't had any time to try it properly, though. It could well be that it simply isn't powerful enough to act as a wannabe flash. But a waterproof and bluetooth controllable light ought to be useful for something

10-04-2018, 10:37 AM	#360
Eyewanders Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Land of the Salish Sea Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,343	Originally posted by savoche I just got myself a Lume Cube. While not a flash, it's small and compact. Haven't had any time to try it properly, though. It could well be that it simply isn't powerful enough to act as a wannabe flash. But a waterproof and bluetooth controllable light ought to be useful for something Those are quite cool. I was just looking at the Litra a couple of days ago.