Ricoh GR III

Matchete · 12-05-2018, 06:25 AM

Will PixelShift be available on the GR III ?

OoKU · 12-05-2018, 06:53 AM

DB-110 also is the battery of theta.

---------- Post added 12-05-18 at 06:54 AM ----------

Originally posted by Matchete

Will PixelShift be available on the GR III ?

No available.

Matchete · 12-05-2018, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by OoKU

DB-110 also is the battery of theta.

---------- Post added 12-05-18 at 06:54 AM ----------

No available.

It's a pity ! Is it because 5-axis stabilization is required to perform PixelShift ?

Kunzite · 12-05-2018, 07:16 AM

The DB-110 has a slightly higher capacity than the GR II battery. Just slightly.

It might indeed be the case that the ultra-compact SR system used in the GR III is not precise enough (or otherwise lacking) for Pixel Shift.

biz-engineer · 12-05-2018, 07:58 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Matchete

It's a pity ! Is it because 5-axis stabilization is required to perform PixelShift ?

Well, it's normal that it's a pity, because I've often seen people searching for negatives for about every camera model released by Pentax or Ricoh. The GR is supposed to be a street photography camera (moving subjects), and I don't see how pixel shift can help and I also don't see the point of design efforts for an ultra compact camera requiring to carry a tripod to use pixel shift. Never mind, this is no the only post seeking for negatives, this has always been and will continue. I consider this to be such a pain for the camera industry.

Matchete · 12-05-2018, 08:21 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Well, it's normal that it's a pity, because I've often seen people searching for negatives for about every camera model released by Pentax or Ricoh. The GR is supposed to be a street photography camera (moving subjects), and I don't see how pixel shift can help and I also don't see the point of design efforts for an ultra compact camera requiring to carry a tripod to use pixel shift. Never mind, this is no the only post seeking for negatives, this has always been and will continue. I consider this to be such a pain for the camera industry.

I often bring my GR when hiking, along with a light tripod, so PixelShift could have come in very handy !

ogl · 12-05-2018, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

The DB-110 has a slightly higher capacity than the GR II battery. Just slightly.

3.6 V 1250 mAh 4.5Wh vs 1350 mAh 4.9Wh

OoKU · 12-05-2018, 04:10 PM - **3 Likes**

report from Beijing
??? ?????GR III??????????????????????????_????_?????

JPT · 12-06-2018, 07:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by OoKU

report from Beijing
??? ?????GR III??????????????????????????_????_?????

Thanks for that link. Some things that struck me in the images and GIFs were:
- The weight is mentioned on the Ricoh slide as 227g compared to the GRII's 221g. I guess the previously mentioned 257g must have been including the battery.
- The slide also reveals it has the accelerator. I think this is the first time the accelerator chip has been disclosed. So it has a new processor and the accelerator chip.
- It's a bit difficult to judge from a GIF, but the lens barrel seems to extend much quicker. That was something I always disliked about the former models. The screechy noise accentuated how long it took to extend.
- It is clearly easy to reach and operate the screen with your thumb without shifting your grip.
- They already have packaging made up for it and perhaps those images are for the promotional material.

All very exciting!

---------- Post added 12-06-18 at 11:59 PM ----------

Here is another hands-on impression from the Japanese press.
(Japanese) 2019
(English via Google) Google Translate

awscreo · 12-06-2018, 09:20 AM

Didn't realize it has a USB-C connector. Pretty handy

ogl · 12-06-2018, 10:28 AM

GR III vs GR II

Dimensions 109.4mm × 61.9mm × 33.3mm - 117mm × 62.8mm × 34.7mm
Weight 227g 221g
Focal length / aperture 28mm / F2.8 28mm / F2.8
Lens structure 4 groups of 6 pieces (2 aspherical lenses) 5 groups of 7 pieces
Macro 6cm 10cm
Image Sensor APS-C 24M APS-C 16M
Sensitivity ISO 100-102400 (expected) ISO 100-25600
Image Processing Engine GE Engine VI+Accelerator Unit GE Engine V
Shooting mode
P, Av, Tv, M, U1-3, Movie AUTO, P, Av, Tv, TAv, M, Movie, MY1-3
Focus mode Mixed focus (contrast + phase difference) Contrast detection
Memory 2GB (about 180 shots for L-size JPEG) About 6 shoots for L specifications
Anti-shake sensor offset (4 levels and 3 axes)
LCD screen 3 inches 3:2 (touch screen) 3 inches 4:3
Dust removal DR II (ultrasonic dust removal)
Interface USB 3.0 (Type C) USB/AV-out, HDMI
Built-in flash NO YES
Online WIFI, Bluetooth WIFI, NFC
Bundled software No Digital Camera Utility 5

**savoche** · 12-06-2018, 10:37 AM

I wonder if the built-in ND filter is still there. It can be very handy at times.

ogl · 12-06-2018, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by JPT

[/COLOR]Here is another hands-on impression from the Japanese press.
(Japanese) 2019
(English via Google) Google Translate

He says that 1 sec is high probability for SR. and 1/8 sec. - you can shoot without worrying about camera shake.
2-3 stops with SR.

reh321 · 12-06-2018, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by JPT

I think this is the first time the accelerator chip has been disclosed.

First time they've disclosed 'accelerator' is included in GRiii.
They have openly talked about the 'accelerator' in the context of DSLRs.

D1N0 · 12-06-2018, 11:14 AM

The accellerator seems to work better on smaller pixels, so that is good.

12-05-2018, 08:21 AM - 1 Like	#396
Matchete Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 134	Originally posted by biz-engineer Well, it's normal that it's a pity, because I've often seen people searching for negatives for about every camera model released by Pentax or Ricoh. The GR is supposed to be a street photography camera (moving subjects), and I don't see how pixel shift can help and I also don't see the point of design efforts for an ultra compact camera requiring to carry a tripod to use pixel shift. Never mind, this is no the only post seeking for negatives, this has always been and will continue. I consider this to be such a pain for the camera industry. I often bring my GR when hiking, along with a light tripod, so PixelShift could have come in very handy ! Last edited by Blue; 12-05-2018 at 08:21 PM.

12-06-2018, 10:28 AM	#401
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	GR III vs GR II Dimensions 109.4mm × 61.9mm × 33.3mm - 117mm × 62.8mm × 34.7mm Weight 227g 221g Focal length / aperture 28mm / F2.8 28mm / F2.8 Lens structure 4 groups of 6 pieces (2 aspherical lenses) 5 groups of 7 pieces Macro 6cm 10cm Image Sensor APS-C 24M APS-C 16M Sensitivity ISO 100-102400 (expected) ISO 100-25600 Image Processing Engine GE Engine VI+Accelerator Unit GE Engine V Shooting mode P, Av, Tv, M, U1-3, Movie AUTO, P, Av, Tv, TAv, M, Movie, MY1-3 Focus mode Mixed focus (contrast + phase difference) Contrast detection Memory 2GB (about 180 shots for L-size JPEG) About 6 shoots for L specifications Anti-shake sensor offset (4 levels and 3 axes) LCD screen 3 inches 3:2 (touch screen) 3 inches 4:3 Dust removal DR II (ultrasonic dust removal) Interface USB 3.0 (Type C) USB/AV-out, HDMI Built-in flash NO YES Online WIFI, Bluetooth WIFI, NFC Bundled software No Digital Camera Utility 5 Last edited by ogl; 12-06-2018 at 11:20 AM.

12-06-2018, 10:38 AM	#403
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by JPT [/COLOR]Here is another hands-on impression from the Japanese press. (Japanese) 2019 (English via Google) Google Translate He says that 1 sec is high probability for SR. and 1/8 sec. - you can shoot without worrying about camera shake. 2-3 stops with SR. Last edited by ogl; 12-06-2018 at 11:19 AM.

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12-05-2018, 06:25 AM	#391
Matchete Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 134	Will PixelShift be available on the GR III ?

12-05-2018, 06:53 AM	#392
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	DB-110 also is the battery of theta. ---------- Post added 12-05-18 at 06:54 AM ---------- Originally posted by Matchete Will PixelShift be available on the GR III ? No available.

12-05-2018, 07:09 AM	#393
Matchete Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 134	Originally posted by OoKU DB-110 also is the battery of theta. ---------- Post added 12-05-18 at 06:54 AM ---------- No available. It's a pity ! Is it because 5-axis stabilization is required to perform PixelShift ?

12-05-2018, 07:16 AM	#394
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The DB-110 has a slightly higher capacity than the GR II battery. Just slightly. It might indeed be the case that the ultra-compact SR system used in the GR III is not precise enough (or otherwise lacking) for Pixel Shift.

12-05-2018, 07:58 AM - 1 Like	#395
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,239	Originally posted by Matchete It's a pity ! Is it because 5-axis stabilization is required to perform PixelShift ? Well, it's normal that it's a pity, because I've often seen people searching for negatives for about every camera model released by Pentax or Ricoh. The GR is supposed to be a street photography camera (moving subjects), and I don't see how pixel shift can help and I also don't see the point of design efforts for an ultra compact camera requiring to carry a tripod to use pixel shift. Never mind, this is no the only post seeking for negatives, this has always been and will continue. I consider this to be such a pain for the camera industry.

12-05-2018, 03:55 PM	#397
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Kunzite The DB-110 has a slightly higher capacity than the GR II battery. Just slightly. 3.6 V 1250 mAh 4.5Wh vs 1350 mAh 4.9Wh

12-05-2018, 04:10 PM - 3 Likes	#398
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	report from Beijing ??? ?????GR III??????????????????????????_????_?????

12-06-2018, 07:04 AM - 1 Like	#399
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Originally posted by OoKU report from Beijing ??? ?????GR III??????????????????????????_????_????? Thanks for that link. Some things that struck me in the images and GIFs were: - The weight is mentioned on the Ricoh slide as 227g compared to the GRII's 221g. I guess the previously mentioned 257g must have been including the battery. - The slide also reveals it has the accelerator. I think this is the first time the accelerator chip has been disclosed. So it has a new processor and the accelerator chip. - It's a bit difficult to judge from a GIF, but the lens barrel seems to extend much quicker. That was something I always disliked about the former models. The screechy noise accentuated how long it took to extend. - It is clearly easy to reach and operate the screen with your thumb without shifting your grip. - They already have packaging made up for it and perhaps those images are for the promotional material. All very exciting! ---------- Post added 12-06-18 at 11:59 PM ---------- Here is another hands-on impression from the Japanese press. (Japanese) 2019 (English via Google) Google Translate

12-06-2018, 09:20 AM	#400
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722	Didn't realize it has a USB-C connector. Pretty handy

12-06-2018, 10:37 AM	#402
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	I wonder if the built-in ND filter is still there. It can be very handy at times.

12-06-2018, 11:07 AM	#404
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,183	Originally posted by JPT I think this is the first time the accelerator chip has been disclosed. First time they've disclosed 'accelerator' is included in GRiii. They have openly talked about the 'accelerator' in the context of DSLRs.

12-06-2018, 11:14 AM	#405
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	The accellerator seems to work better on smaller pixels, so that is good.