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02-22-2019, 08:44 AM   #676
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A gallery of 29 pictures. One can download the RAW (DNG) files as well as the full-res (6,000 x 4,000) jpeg files:

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QuoteOriginally posted by MJKoski Quote
In the end, I judge success of camera gear by the costs. If I pay 3000€ for K-1 II and a lens, I expect nearly flawless performance. P20 Pro camera module is ~two digit figure considering the costs to manufacture it. There is a lot to like there for the money. It is completely unacceptable to force image filtering when using $$$$ digital camera setup. $$$ = borderline acceptable.
There's no point us getting into the K-1II accelerator again. I understand and appreciate your view point, and to some extent I even agree, though we differ on our opinions as to the extent and end result.

You've always given the impression that image quality is of the utmost importance to you, so I'm interested and a little surprised that you're happy to accept the image quality of the P20 Pro on the basis of cost. It's a capable smartphone camera, for sure, but the raw files show many issues with artefacts, purple fringing from the various sample shots I've seen. Sure, it's a lot cheaper than a high end DSLR, but the image quality and versatility are significantly reduced.

So is it fair to say, then, that perfection in image quality isn't a necessity for you after all, but you expect it if you've paid a lot of money for the camera and lenses? If that's the case, it seems you could have gotten away with never buying anything so expensive as the K-1 or K-1II - nor indeed any high end DSLR or mirrorless camera
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I still have my GR from 2013 and still enjoy it. I'll be keeping a close eye on the serious reviews of the GR III - particularly when it comes to autofocus performance (I'm not talking about snap focus). Ricoh is promising improvements. I hope they're what many of us want. Otherwise, since I wouldn't be shooting much, if any, video with a camera like this, my money might be better spent on a Fuji XF10. $399-$449 with a 24mp Bayer sensor, better battery life and splits the difference between the GR and GR III when it comes to size and weight.
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I thought like anything else, ROI with cameras is the same as with any other tech. You can get 80% to perfection with a cheap camera, and more expensive gear brings you less and less increase in quality. People that really care pay premium for the ultimate quality, but majority accept the 80% and are just fine with it. Not to say that quality of the image is the be all end all thing, as we all know, a lot of best photographs aren't perfect technically instead relying on storytelling.



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QuoteOriginally posted by Biro Quote
I still have my GR from 2013 and still enjoy it. I'll be keeping a close eye on the serious reviews of the GR III - particularly when it comes to autofocus performance (I'm not talking about snap focus). Ricoh is promising improvements. I hope they're what many of us want. Otherwise, since I wouldn't be shooting much, if any, video with a camera like this, my money might be better spent on a Fuji XF10. $399-$449 with a 24mp Bayer sensor, better battery life and splits the difference between the GR and GR III when it comes to size and weight.
I'd have thought the GRIII and XF10 would offer quite different shooting experiences, though, and be suited to different tasks. The difference in field of view, given the GRIII's 28mm lens and the XF10's 18.5mm lens, would be significant...

Scratch that. I hadn't realised that the GRIII's lens is 18.3mm

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I'd have thought the GRIII and XF10 would offer quite different shooting experiences, though, and be suited to different tasks. The difference in field of view, given the GRIII's 28mm lens and the XF10's 18.5mm lens, would be significant...
Wait, aren't they the same fov. GRIII is also 18.5mm making it 28mm ff equivalent. The difference should be in build quality, Ibis, ergonomics and (theoretically) speed of use.

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Wait, aren't they the same fov. GRIII is also 18.5mm making it 28mm ff equivalent. The difference should be in build quality, Ibis, ergonomics and (theoretically) speed of use.
They are. It was an error on my part. A pretty big one, at that

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They are. It was an error on my part. A pretty big one, at that
I almost had a heart attack! 28mm would be rather limiting for a point and shoot camera))

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I'd have thought the GRIII and XF10 would offer quite different shooting experiences, though, and be suited to different tasks. The difference in field of view, given the GRIII's 28mm lens and the XF10's 18.5mm lens, would be significant...
No, the Ricoh and the Fuji have the same field of view. Both lenses are 18mm actual and 28mm effective in full-frame terms (both cameras being APS-C). And both cameras have 35mm and 50mm (effective) crop modes - which are better options now with 24mp sensors.
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No, the Ricoh and the Fuji have the same field of view. Both lenses are 18mm actual and 28mm effective in full-frame terms. And both cameras have 35mm and 50mm (effective) crop modes - which are better options now with 24mp sensors.
See my correction and subsequent post above. My bad - apologies!
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Ricoh GR III slide presentation from the official announcement in the UK (including three slides about WG-6 and G900) :

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Too bad there is no equivalent to a tinie tiny Olympus - https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/853231-REG/Olympus_V3261400W000_FL_LM...BI%3A514&smp=Y

Maybe there will be in future)
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^^^ Ah, the venerable Pentax AF201FG flash - shown with optional Ricoh GRIII digital camera attachment
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Too bad there is no equivalent to a tinie tiny Olympus - Olympus FL-LM2 Flash V3261400W000 B&H Photo Video

Maybe there will be in future)
That Olympus flash is using camera power - the GR III won't allow that.
Any (Pentax) flash for the GR III will thus have to include a power source - the AF201FG and the small Metz have 2xAAA batteries.
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