46 min Interview with Ricoh's Mr. Baus (in German) from Photokina 2018

H.Abendsen · 10-05-2018, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Sony stopped selling smartphones in Turkey recently. I think these things are happening in many countries these days.

It's also cheaper for the companies. The owners of their gear have no warranty to claim.

I don't think Pentax is strong in this grey market.

---------- Post added 05-10-18 at 08:59 ----------

I do wonder where all those grey market articles are coming from. Are those all open boxes send back after an online sale?

despite what everybody is sayin about europe, I think even more companies and countries should stop selling things to Turkey and stop buying from them...

Last edited by Racer X 69; 10-06-2018 at 02:29 PM. Reason: Political and religious references.

Class A · 10-22-2018, 02:00 AM - **2 Likes**

I like that Mr. Baus pretty much acknowledges that the K-1 II's RAW noise filtering should have been optional. Too bad that Ricoh Japan is apparently not listening to product managers from other countries. They could have saved themselves quite a bit of drama and perhaps sold some cameras more.

I also liked that he positioned Pentax as a company that produces cameras for still photography. I appreciate the needs and wants of people who want to create video but as supporting video optimally comes with compromises for still photography, I'm glad that Ricoh apparently will stick to optical viewfinders and optimise their camera design for still photography.

zapp · 11-09-2018, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

From Photokina 2018:

Stephen Obermeier interviews Mr. Wolfgang Baus (Product Manager & Group Leader Marketing D/A/CH, Press- and Media Relation)

Interview mit Wolfgang Baus (Pentax Germany) auf der Photokina 2018 - YouTube

Maybe some wants to use the Youtube feature which auto generates a transscript and then translates it to English.

Provides some extra insights.

Listening for 8 minutes and stopped. He keeps talking about GR III in a manner like he was briefed a day before photokina....
Lots of wishes and expectations, but Pentax will tell details just before the next fare.
I don´t feel desperate enought to listen 46 minutes to the talk.

punkrachmaninov · 11-09-2018, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

So is LX a new FF? That would set the Forum keyboards afire.

.:

told you guys... they are going release a full frame mirrorless camera line that will bring all the fuji fanboys back to a real CAMERA company with real vintage glass... we will be using “eterna” picture profiles like 35mm film and you will all come crawling back. mwahahaha!!

---------- Post added 11-09-18 at 08:30 AM ----------

Originally posted by beholder3

Around 26:40 is a very clear statement that video is and will stay a non-priority.

such a mistake... if they want fuji users back, they should give us 10bit internal at 24, 25 and 30 fps... nothing crazy... just late 2018 era usability for b-roll and stills; delivered in a pentax body in late 2019...

punkrachmaninov · 11-09-2018, 08:42 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by 6BQ5

I can totally understand Ricoh's frustration the KP didn't sell as well as a Fuji X-T2 ... but the X-T2 (and now X-T3) is power house 4k camera with on-chip phase detection to enable more reliable, faster, and accurate focusing. Like it or not, Ricoh has to get on board with 4k and they have to really step up with AF. Personally, for me 4k is useless since I do not create videos but the marketplace expects this. AF is definitely a weak spot for Ricoh unless you only photograph stationary subjects. Even then, it's still a little weak compared to other mirror'ed systems.

"Fix" those two things and more people will flock to the K-mount ecosystem.

the max yurev video released yesterday outlines the verisimilitude of ALL manufacturers in the area of autofocus (in video specifically)—there is almost no difference anymore. pentax needs to listen to the market, and at least keep up...

Youtu.be

perhaps a digression—but if they would’ve put 24 frames per second in the menu options, the manual focus b-roll capabilities of even the older k-5 are actually much better than the much later video darling canon 70d... for professional use the bitrate is much higher. they need to release a camera with a log profile and semi-modern hybrid video features if they want big sales.

filmamigo · 11-09-2018, 09:39 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by gylfimag

Whatever Pentax releases to celebrate the first 100 years should obviously not be called Pentax LX. That was how they celebrated the 60th anniversary (released in 1980 even if the anniversary was in 1979!). The appropriate model name for the 100th anniversary would be Pentax C.

In the tradition of terrible Pentax names (*ist D anyone?) the new camera will be the Pentax 10^2 (pronounced "ten squared"). Official branding will be a 10 with a superscript 2.

lytrytyr · 11-09-2018, 10:10 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by filmamigo

In the tradition of terrible Pentax names (*ist D anyone?) the new camera will be the Pentax 10^2 (pronounced "ten squared"). Official branding will be a 10 with a superscript 2.

Except that, like for the LX, they will use Roman numerals: XII.

You heard it here first!

ogl · 11-09-2018, 01:09 PM

Pentax XX could be funny....

normhead · 11-09-2018, 01:42 PM

Hmmmm... flagship APS-c in 2019 (because I want a camera that fits the batteries I already own.) I hope there's a Silver edition. I'm always picking up the K-1 when I want the K-3 and vice versa. 2019 is not that far off. I better start saving my pennies. There will be no DFA 150-450 again this year.

reh321 · 11-09-2018, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by normhead

Hmmmm... flagship APS-c in 2019 (because I want a camera that fits the batteries I already own.) I hope there's a Silver edition. I'm always picking up the K-1 when I want the K-3 and vice versa. 2019 is not that far off. I better start saving my pennies. There will be no DFA 150-450 again this year.

Too bad the KP's buffer is inadequate for you. When I do get one, I plan to get the "silver" edition of it - it will look so much like my Super Program!

Dave L · 11-09-2018, 07:38 PM - **2 Likes**

Next year, I'll be looking out for the Pentax KC. If it's good enough for the Sunshine Band, it's good enough for the Pentax centenary year. That's the way I like it.

Wild Mark · 11-09-2018, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Pentax XX could be funny....

gold vein to be mined here

XxX (10 x 10)

---------- Post added 10-11-18 at 05:55 PM ----------

But lets be more contemporary and use hexadecimal

The new model will be the K64 - that will make for head scratching

But, the binary option is far more exciting

K1100100

OoKU · 11-10-2018, 02:11 AM - **1 Like**

Q→APSC→FF→645→WG→Theta→GR, seven product lines strictly only released a new product of the DFA*50/1.4 in year of 2018.
Ricoh ruined Pentax.

**Rondec** · 11-10-2018, 03:23 AM

How about instead of a digital LX, the Pentax XXL, for all the extra large people in your life...

Mistral75 · 11-10-2018, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by OoKU

Q→APSC→FF→645→WG→Theta→GR, seven product lines strictly only released a new product of the DFA*50/1.4 in year of 2018.
Ricoh ruined Pentax.

Three products in two lines actually:

FF: (i) Pentax K-1 II and (ii) HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW
WG: (iii) Ricoh WG-60

But I agree: this is a meagre harvest.

11-10-2018, 03:41 AM	#135
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by OoKU Q→APSC→FF→645→WG→Theta→GR, seven product lines strictly only released a new product of the DFA*50/1.4 in year of 2018. Ricoh ruined Pentax. Three products in two lines actually: FF: (i) Pentax K-1 II and (ii) HD Pentax-D FA★ 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW WG: (iii) Ricoh WG-60 But I agree: this is a meagre harvest.

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10-05-2018, 02:20 PM	#121
H.Abendsen Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 95	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Sony stopped selling smartphones in Turkey recently. I think these things are happening in many countries these days. It's also cheaper for the companies. The owners of their gear have no warranty to claim. I don't think Pentax is strong in this grey market. ---------- Post added 05-10-18 at 08:59 ---------- I do wonder where all those grey market articles are coming from. Are those all open boxes send back after an online sale? despite what everybody is sayin about europe, I think even more companies and countries should stop selling things to Turkey and stop buying from them... Last edited by Racer X 69; 10-06-2018 at 02:29 PM. Reason: Political and religious references.

10-22-2018, 02:00 AM - 2 Likes	#122
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	I like that Mr. Baus pretty much acknowledges that the K-1 II's RAW noise filtering should have been optional. Too bad that Ricoh Japan is apparently not listening to product managers from other countries. They could have saved themselves quite a bit of drama and perhaps sold some cameras more. I also liked that he positioned Pentax as a company that produces cameras for still photography. I appreciate the needs and wants of people who want to create video but as supporting video optimally comes with compromises for still photography, I'm glad that Ricoh apparently will stick to optical viewfinders and optimise their camera design for still photography.

11-09-2018, 12:46 AM	#123
zapp Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,385	Originally posted by beholder3 From Photokina 2018: Stephen Obermeier interviews Mr. Wolfgang Baus (Product Manager & Group Leader Marketing D/A/CH, Press- and Media Relation) Interview mit Wolfgang Baus (Pentax Germany) auf der Photokina 2018 - YouTube Maybe some wants to use the Youtube feature which auto generates a transscript and then translates it to English. Provides some extra insights. Listening for 8 minutes and stopped. He keeps talking about GR III in a manner like he was briefed a day before photokina.... Lots of wishes and expectations, but Pentax will tell details just before the next fare. I don´t feel desperate enought to listen 46 minutes to the talk.

11-09-2018, 07:19 AM	#124
punkrachmaninov Banned Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 75	Originally posted by monochrome So is LX a new FF? That would set the Forum keyboards afire. .: told you guys... they are going release a full frame mirrorless camera line that will bring all the fuji fanboys back to a real CAMERA company with real vintage glass... we will be using “eterna” picture profiles like 35mm film and you will all come crawling back. mwahahaha!! ---------- Post added 11-09-18 at 08:30 AM ---------- Originally posted by beholder3 Around 26:40 is a very clear statement that video is and will stay a non-priority. such a mistake... if they want fuji users back, they should give us 10bit internal at 24, 25 and 30 fps... nothing crazy... just late 2018 era usability for b-roll and stills; delivered in a pentax body in late 2019...

11-09-2018, 09:39 AM - 2 Likes	#126
filmamigo Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 797	Originally posted by gylfimag Whatever Pentax releases to celebrate the first 100 years should obviously not be called Pentax LX. That was how they celebrated the 60th anniversary (released in 1980 even if the anniversary was in 1979!). The appropriate model name for the 100th anniversary would be Pentax C. In the tradition of terrible Pentax names (*ist D anyone?) the new camera will be the Pentax 10^2 (pronounced "ten squared"). Official branding will be a 10 with a superscript 2.

11-09-2018, 10:10 AM - 2 Likes	#127
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by filmamigo In the tradition of terrible Pentax names (*ist D anyone?) the new camera will be the Pentax 10^2 (pronounced "ten squared"). Official branding will be a 10 with a superscript 2. Except that, like for the LX, they will use Roman numerals: XII. You heard it here first!

11-09-2018, 01:09 PM	#128
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Pentax XX could be funny....

11-09-2018, 01:42 PM	#129
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Hmmmm... flagship APS-c in 2019 (because I want a camera that fits the batteries I already own.) I hope there's a Silver edition. I'm always picking up the K-1 when I want the K-3 and vice versa. 2019 is not that far off. I better start saving my pennies. There will be no DFA 150-450 again this year.

11-09-2018, 03:06 PM	#130
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by normhead Hmmmm... flagship APS-c in 2019 (because I want a camera that fits the batteries I already own.) I hope there's a Silver edition. I'm always picking up the K-1 when I want the K-3 and vice versa. 2019 is not that far off. I better start saving my pennies. There will be no DFA 150-450 again this year. Too bad the KP's buffer is inadequate for you. When I do get one, I plan to get the "silver" edition of it - it will look so much like my Super Program!

11-09-2018, 07:38 PM - 2 Likes	#131
Dave L Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 306	Next year, I'll be looking out for the Pentax KC. If it's good enough for the Sunshine Band, it's good enough for the Pentax centenary year. That's the way I like it.

11-09-2018, 11:46 PM	#132
Wild Mark Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Newcastle Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,954	Originally posted by ogl Pentax XX could be funny.... gold vein to be mined here XxX (10 x 10) ---------- Post added 10-11-18 at 05:55 PM ---------- But lets be more contemporary and use hexadecimal The new model will be the K64 - that will make for head scratching But, the binary option is far more exciting K1100100

11-10-2018, 02:11 AM - 1 Like	#133
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	Q→APSC→FF→645→WG→Theta→GR, seven product lines strictly only released a new product of the DFA*50/1.4 in year of 2018. Ricoh ruined Pentax.

11-10-2018, 03:23 AM	#134
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	How about instead of a digital LX, the Pentax XXL, for all the extra large people in your life...