Yay! Ricoh Imaging will announce a new camera this month or next month! (Nokishita)

**Rondec** · 10-25-2018, 10:57 AM

How much do you all think that Pentax has to do with the design of these cameras? Some, but most of the details are based on whatever Chinese company is making them. Sensor performance has not changed a lot. At the same time, clearly they sell some and turn a decent profit with minimal investment of time or R and D.

I don't think this camera is a big deal to most of us, but there shouldn't be anything particularly negative about it either.

ogl · 10-25-2018, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

How much do you all think that Pentax has to do with the design of these cameras? Some, but most of the details are based on whatever Chinese company is making them. Sensor performance has not changed a lot. At the same time, clearly they sell some and turn a decent profit with minimal investment of time or R and D.

I don't think this camera is a big deal to most of us, but there shouldn't be anything particularly negative about it either.

It's total disregard of users wish. And rather strange commercial way.

**volley** · 10-25-2018, 11:36 AM - **1 Like**

Folks, if you don't like the new camera don't buy it. What's the problem?
It will probably not be the best selling camera of all times, but I assume that Ricoh/Pentax have a better understanding of the camera market than most of us here.

Since several years I have a WG30 and it is still a camera I occasionally grab when I have to travel light or go hiking to remote areas. IQ is not bad at all.

RonHendriks1966 · 10-25-2018, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by volley

Folks, if you don't like the new camera don't buy it. What's the problem?
It will probably not be the best selling camera of all times, but I assume that Ricoh/Pentax have a better understanding of the camera market than most of us here.

Since several years I have a WG30 and it is still a camera I occasionally grab when I have to travel light or go hiking to remote areas. IQ is not bad at all.

Nice image. You can just change the name on your camera to wg-60 since it is almost the same camera.

**volley** · 10-25-2018, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Nice image. You can just change the name on your camera to wg-60 since it is almost the same camera.

Yes, saves me a lot of money

RonHendriks1966 · 10-25-2018, 01:05 PM

Let me say here that I really think that Ricoh-Imaging crossed the line again in using images..........

Well who cares about a company that is on the way down!

reh321 · 10-25-2018, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Let me say here that I really think that Ricoh-Imaging crossed the line again in using images..........

Well who cares about a company that is on the way down!

You forgot to include the smiley that shows us you're just kidding.

RonHendriks1966 · 10-25-2018, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by reh321

You forgot to include the smiley that shows us you're just kidding.

Oh no not kidding. They use images to promote the camera bought online, made with other camera's.

**Rondec** · 10-25-2018, 02:20 PM

It is amazing how a Ricoh point and shoot can bring out such negativity. I understand that Ron is negative about everything now, but this just isn't a big deal. As far as using other brands to shoot images, you contract with an agency to do it and if they don't use your cameras, so be it. What percentage of Sony A6000 shots were made with an A6000 or, even a Sony camera, for that matter? No one knows or cares.

I'm more interested in K mount gear, but I don't see how you can look at this release as negative. It just says that Ricoh is going to continue supporting at least one point and shoot for the next generation of cameras. That's all.

RonHendriks1966 · 10-25-2018, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Rondec

It is amazing how a Ricoh point and shoot can bring out such negativity. I understand that Ron is negative about everything now, but this just isn't a big deal. As far as using other brands to shoot images, you contract with an agency to do it and if they don't use your cameras, so be it. What percentage of Sony A6000 shots were made with an A6000 or, even a Sony camera, for that matter? No one knows or cares.

I'm more interested in K mount gear, but I don't see how you can look at this release as negative. It just says that Ricoh is going to continue supporting at least one point and shoot for the next generation of cameras. That's all.

I'm not talking about shots of the camera. I'm talking about the shots that are presented with the camera to give potential buyers an idea of what the camera is capable of.

Kunzite · 10-25-2018, 02:33 PM

Are you sure it actually happened? From Pentax?

enoeske · 10-25-2018, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Let me say here that I really think that Ricoh-Imaging crossed the line again in using images..........

Well who cares about a company that is on the way down!

Can you point out where this occured? I reverse google image searched the wg-60 "example" images and didn't come up with any reused images.

bobell69 · 10-25-2018, 04:53 PM

Well, that was a bust. I was hoping for something different than a rehash of the same old WG series which never seems to change. Let's hope the second camera announcement will be for something exciting.

reh321 · 10-25-2018, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by bobell69

Well, that was a bust. I was hoping for something different than a rehash of the same old WG series which never seems to change. Let's hope the second camera announcement will be for something exciting.

Second??

**Larrymc** · 10-25-2018, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by reh321

Second??

You mean no one told you????

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10-25-2018, 10:57 AM	#256
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,662	How much do you all think that Pentax has to do with the design of these cameras? Some, but most of the details are based on whatever Chinese company is making them. Sensor performance has not changed a lot. At the same time, clearly they sell some and turn a decent profit with minimal investment of time or R and D. I don't think this camera is a big deal to most of us, but there shouldn't be anything particularly negative about it either.

10-25-2018, 11:14 AM	#257
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Rondec How much do you all think that Pentax has to do with the design of these cameras? Some, but most of the details are based on whatever Chinese company is making them. Sensor performance has not changed a lot. At the same time, clearly they sell some and turn a decent profit with minimal investment of time or R and D. I don't think this camera is a big deal to most of us, but there shouldn't be anything particularly negative about it either. It's total disregard of users wish. And rather strange commercial way.

10-25-2018, 11:36 AM - 1 Like	#258
volley Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Springe Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,693	Folks, if you don't like the new camera don't buy it. What's the problem? It will probably not be the best selling camera of all times, but I assume that Ricoh/Pentax have a better understanding of the camera market than most of us here. Since several years I have a WG30 and it is still a camera I occasionally grab when I have to travel light or go hiking to remote areas. IQ is not bad at all.

10-25-2018, 12:15 PM	#259
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by volley Folks, if you don't like the new camera don't buy it. What's the problem? It will probably not be the best selling camera of all times, but I assume that Ricoh/Pentax have a better understanding of the camera market than most of us here. Since several years I have a WG30 and it is still a camera I occasionally grab when I have to travel light or go hiking to remote areas. IQ is not bad at all. Nice image. You can just change the name on your camera to wg-60 since it is almost the same camera.

10-25-2018, 12:24 PM	#260
volley Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Springe Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,693	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Nice image. You can just change the name on your camera to wg-60 since it is almost the same camera. Yes, saves me a lot of money

10-25-2018, 01:05 PM	#261
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Let me say here that I really think that Ricoh-Imaging crossed the line again in using images.......... Well who cares about a company that is on the way down!

10-25-2018, 01:08 PM	#262
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,181	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Let me say here that I really think that Ricoh-Imaging crossed the line again in using images.......... Well who cares about a company that is on the way down! You forgot to include the smiley that shows us you're just kidding.

10-25-2018, 01:20 PM	#263
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by reh321 You forgot to include the smiley that shows us you're just kidding. Oh no not kidding. They use images to promote the camera bought online, made with other camera's.

10-25-2018, 02:20 PM	#264
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,662	It is amazing how a Ricoh point and shoot can bring out such negativity. I understand that Ron is negative about everything now, but this just isn't a big deal. As far as using other brands to shoot images, you contract with an agency to do it and if they don't use your cameras, so be it. What percentage of Sony A6000 shots were made with an A6000 or, even a Sony camera, for that matter? No one knows or cares. I'm more interested in K mount gear, but I don't see how you can look at this release as negative. It just says that Ricoh is going to continue supporting at least one point and shoot for the next generation of cameras. That's all.

10-25-2018, 02:27 PM	#265
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Rondec It is amazing how a Ricoh point and shoot can bring out such negativity. I understand that Ron is negative about everything now, but this just isn't a big deal. As far as using other brands to shoot images, you contract with an agency to do it and if they don't use your cameras, so be it. What percentage of Sony A6000 shots were made with an A6000 or, even a Sony camera, for that matter? No one knows or cares. I'm more interested in K mount gear, but I don't see how you can look at this release as negative. It just says that Ricoh is going to continue supporting at least one point and shoot for the next generation of cameras. That's all. I'm not talking about shots of the camera. I'm talking about the shots that are presented with the camera to give potential buyers an idea of what the camera is capable of.

10-25-2018, 02:33 PM	#266
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Are you sure it actually happened? From Pentax?

10-25-2018, 04:04 PM	#267
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Let me say here that I really think that Ricoh-Imaging crossed the line again in using images.......... Well who cares about a company that is on the way down! Can you point out where this occured? I reverse google image searched the wg-60 "example" images and didn't come up with any reused images.

10-25-2018, 04:53 PM	#268
bobell69 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Courtenay BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 498	Well, that was a bust. I was hoping for something different than a rehash of the same old WG series which never seems to change. Let's hope the second camera announcement will be for something exciting.

10-25-2018, 05:26 PM	#269
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,181	Originally posted by bobell69 Well, that was a bust. I was hoping for something different than a rehash of the same old WG series which never seems to change. Let's hope the second camera announcement will be for something exciting. Second??

10-25-2018, 07:09 PM	#270
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by reh321 Second?? You mean no one told you????