New zoom 70-200 F4

**fs999** · 01-20-2020, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Tokina AT-X 70-200mm f/4 Pro FX VCM-S
Weight 980g

That's with the VC module...

**Serkevan** · 01-20-2020, 01:31 AM

Since those lenses all have stabilization, is it reasonable to assume the Pentax would be ~50 g lighter? Then again, the 70-200/2.8 is heavier than anyone else's...

---------- Post added 01-20-20 at 01:31 AM ----------

Originally posted by fs999

That's with the VC module...

The Canon is stabilized at 780 g as well.

Mistral75 · 01-20-2020, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by fs999

That's with the VC module...

All three lenses quoted by rawr are stabilised as well.

fsge · 01-20-2020, 01:45 AM

I do not understand why launching an f4 whereas a f2.8 is available with exact same range.
There are other needs in the line up that are more essential

deus ursus · 01-20-2020, 01:58 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

Pentax Rumors says it's true: HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/4 lens to be announced next week - Pentax Rumors

I'm sure they've got their rumour from this thread. Their rumours usually have their origins from this forum.

WorksAsIntended · 01-20-2020, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by fsge

I do not understand why launching an f4 whereas a f2.8 is available with exact same range.
There are other needs in the line up that are more essential

For Pentax' market position the DFA* 70-200 simply is too expensive to be the only one.

fsge · 01-20-2020, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by WorksAsIntended

For Pentax' market position the DFA* 70-200 simply is too expensive to be the only one.

Then why not delivering this f4 first ?

OoKU · 01-20-2020, 02:35 AM - **1 Like**

721/4

Sandy Hancock · 01-20-2020, 02:41 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by OoKU

721/4

That would be even better

WorksAsIntended · 01-20-2020, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by fsge

Then why not delivering this f4 first ?

Because a 70-200 f2.8, although not too many people actually buy one, is one of the most important lenses in a lineup too.
It (70-200 f2.8 in general, not about the one by Pentax in specific) is considered the affordable high end tele zoom for sports and portait and a lens many dream about getting in the future. Even ten years back it was a big deal in many discussions that it is missing from Pentax' lineup and people told others that this should be a reason to not buy a Pentax.

If the rumour is correct and the 70-200 f4 will be using the Tokina lens desing it is propably quite cheap in development compared to others too.

If it was about me personally Pentax should work on:

DFA* 35 /1.4
DFA* 24 /1.4
DFA* 16-50 /2.8

I am not too sure how good this would be from a economical standpoint though. The primes would propably not generate a lot of new customers.

I am not sure, how much about development costs is about doing the optical setup and how much the casing is. But maybe Pentax somewhere missed the point to modernize the limited lineup completly by using new af modules and weather sealing. Maybe they did not. Propably even Pentax doesnt know for sure.

**RobA_Oz** · 01-20-2020, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by deus ursus

I'm sure they've got their rumour from this thread. Their rumours usually have their origins from this forum.

Not necessarily from this thread, but from one of our contributors on another site (quoting sources in Germany). However, they say they have another source to confirm it. Make of all that, what you will.

sundown · 01-20-2020, 03:16 AM

I am all for a 70-200/4, I will be buying one but I hope it's a Pentax design. Looking forward to their updated pdf file of the roadmap too, next week.

fsge · 01-20-2020, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by WorksAsIntended

Because a 70-200 f2.8, although not too many people actually buy one, is one of the most important lenses in a lineup too.
It (70-200 f2.8 in general, not about the one by Pentax in specific) is considered the affordable high end tele zoom for sports and portait and a lens many dream about getting in the future. Even ten years back it was a big deal in many discussions that it is missing from Pentax' lineup and people told others that this should be a reason to not buy a Pentax.

If the rumour is correct and the 70-200 f4 will be using the Tokina lens desing it is propably quite cheap in development compared to others too.

If it was about me personally Pentax should work on:

DFA* 35 /1.4
DFA* 24 /1.4
DFA* 16-50 /2.8

I am not too sure how good this would be from a economical standpoint though. The primes would propably not generate a lot of new customers.

I am not sure, how much about development costs is about doing the optical setup and how much the casing is. But maybe Pentax somewhere missed the point to modernize the limited lineup completly by using new af modules and weather sealing. Maybe they did not. Propably even Pentax doesnt know for sure.

I agree a better DFA*16-50 is urgently needed. I hope they bring the star version of 16-85 which was first indicated in roadmap...

Riddler · 01-20-2020, 03:30 AM

It Will be a Tokio’s lens I quess

**Rondec** · 01-20-2020, 03:44 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by WorksAsIntended

Because a 70-200 f2.8, although not too many people actually buy one, is one of the most important lenses in a lineup too.
It (70-200 f2.8 in general, not about the one by Pentax in specific) is considered the affordable high end tele zoom for sports and portait and a lens many dream about getting in the future. Even ten years back it was a big deal in many discussions that it is missing from Pentax' lineup and people told others that this should be a reason to not buy a Pentax.

If the rumour is correct and the 70-200 f4 will be using the Tokina lens desing it is propably quite cheap in development compared to others too.

If it was about me personally Pentax should work on:

DFA* 35 /1.4
DFA* 24 /1.4
DFA* 16-50 /2.8

I am not too sure how good this would be from a economical standpoint though. The primes would propably not generate a lot of new customers.

I am not sure, how much about development costs is about doing the optical setup and how much the casing is. But maybe Pentax somewhere missed the point to modernize the limited lineup completly by using new af modules and weather sealing. Maybe they did not. Propably even Pentax doesnt know for sure.

I haven't heard that this is a Tokina design (in fact that seems unlikely since it would have been released quite awhile ago if that was the case)...

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01-20-2020, 01:31 AM	#1021
fs999 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Luxembourg Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,645	Originally posted by Mistral75 Tokina AT-X 70-200mm f/4 Pro FX VCM-S Weight 980g That's with the VC module...

01-20-2020, 01:31 AM	#1022
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Since those lenses all have stabilization, is it reasonable to assume the Pentax would be ~50 g lighter? Then again, the 70-200/2.8 is heavier than anyone else's... ---------- Post added 01-20-20 at 01:31 AM ---------- Originally posted by fs999 That's with the VC module... The Canon is stabilized at 780 g as well.

01-20-2020, 01:34 AM	#1023
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by fs999 That's with the VC module... All three lenses quoted by *rawr* are stabilised as well.

01-20-2020, 01:45 AM	#1024
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	I do not understand why launching an f4 whereas a f2.8 is available with exact same range. There are other needs in the line up that are more essential

01-20-2020, 01:58 AM - 3 Likes	#1025
deus ursus Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Stårheim, Norway Posts: 658	Originally posted by RobA_Oz Pentax Rumors says it's true: HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/4 lens to be announced next week - Pentax Rumors I'm sure they've got their rumour from this thread. Their rumours usually have their origins from this forum.

01-20-2020, 02:21 AM	#1026
WorksAsIntended Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 639	Originally posted by fsge I do not understand why launching an f4 whereas a f2.8 is available with exact same range. There are other needs in the line up that are more essential For Pentax' market position the DFA* 70-200 simply is too expensive to be the only one.

01-20-2020, 02:35 AM	#1027
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by WorksAsIntended For Pentax' market position the DFA* 70-200 simply is too expensive to be the only one. Then why not delivering this f4 first ?

01-20-2020, 02:35 AM - 1 Like	#1028
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	721/4

01-20-2020, 02:41 AM - 1 Like	#1029
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Originally posted by OoKU 721/4 That would be even better

01-20-2020, 02:51 AM	#1030
WorksAsIntended Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 639	Originally posted by fsge Then why not delivering this f4 first ? Because a 70-200 f2.8, although not too many people actually buy one, is one of the most important lenses in a lineup too. It (70-200 f2.8 in general, not about the one by Pentax in specific) is considered the affordable high end tele zoom for sports and portait and a lens many dream about getting in the future. Even ten years back it was a big deal in many discussions that it is missing from Pentax' lineup and people told others that this should be a reason to not buy a Pentax. If the rumour is correct and the 70-200 f4 will be using the Tokina lens desing it is propably quite cheap in development compared to others too. If it was about me personally Pentax should work on: DFA* 35 /1.4 DFA* 24 /1.4 DFA* 16-50 /2.8 I am not too sure how good this would be from a economical standpoint though. The primes would propably not generate a lot of new customers. I am not sure, how much about development costs is about doing the optical setup and how much the casing is. But maybe Pentax somewhere missed the point to modernize the limited lineup completly by using new af modules and weather sealing. Maybe they did not. Propably even Pentax doesnt know for sure.

01-20-2020, 02:53 AM	#1031
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,200	Originally posted by deus ursus I'm sure they've got their rumour from this thread. Their rumours usually have their origins from this forum. Not necessarily from this thread, but from one of our contributors on another site (quoting sources in Germany). However, they say they have another source to confirm it. Make of all that, what you will.

01-20-2020, 03:16 AM	#1032
sundown Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 588	I am all for a 70-200/4, I will be buying one but I hope it's a Pentax design. Looking forward to their updated pdf file of the roadmap too, next week.

01-20-2020, 03:28 AM	#1033
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by WorksAsIntended Because a 70-200 f2.8, although not too many people actually buy one, is one of the most important lenses in a lineup too. It (70-200 f2.8 in general, not about the one by Pentax in specific) is considered the affordable high end tele zoom for sports and portait and a lens many dream about getting in the future. Even ten years back it was a big deal in many discussions that it is missing from Pentax' lineup and people told others that this should be a reason to not buy a Pentax. If the rumour is correct and the 70-200 f4 will be using the Tokina lens desing it is propably quite cheap in development compared to others too. If it was about me personally Pentax should work on: DFA* 35 /1.4 DFA* 24 /1.4 DFA* 16-50 /2.8 I am not too sure how good this would be from a economical standpoint though. The primes would propably not generate a lot of new customers. I am not sure, how much about development costs is about doing the optical setup and how much the casing is. But maybe Pentax somewhere missed the point to modernize the limited lineup completly by using new af modules and weather sealing. Maybe they did not. Propably even Pentax doesnt know for sure. I agree a better DFA*16-50 is urgently needed. I hope they bring the star version of 16-85 which was first indicated in roadmap...

01-20-2020, 03:30 AM	#1034
Riddler Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 250	It Will be a Tokio’s lens I quess

01-20-2020, 03:44 AM - 1 Like	#1035
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	Originally posted by WorksAsIntended Because a 70-200 f2.8, although not too many people actually buy one, is one of the most important lenses in a lineup too. It (70-200 f2.8 in general, not about the one by Pentax in specific) is considered the affordable high end tele zoom for sports and portait and a lens many dream about getting in the future. Even ten years back it was a big deal in many discussions that it is missing from Pentax' lineup and people told others that this should be a reason to not buy a Pentax. If the rumour is correct and the 70-200 f4 will be using the Tokina lens desing it is propably quite cheap in development compared to others too. If it was about me personally Pentax should work on: DFA* 35 /1.4 DFA* 24 /1.4 DFA* 16-50 /2.8 I am not too sure how good this would be from a economical standpoint though. The primes would propably not generate a lot of new customers. I am not sure, how much about development costs is about doing the optical setup and how much the casing is. But maybe Pentax somewhere missed the point to modernize the limited lineup completly by using new af modules and weather sealing. Maybe they did not. Propably even Pentax doesnt know for sure. I haven't heard that this is a Tokina design (in fact that seems unlikely since it would have been released quite awhile ago if that was the case)...