New zoom 70-200 F4

Wheatfield · 01-21-2020, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by volley

What happened to the art of writing full sentences?

Thanks for your attempt to clarify!

I suspect the same thing that happened to quoting so that people would know what one is responding to.....

sundown · 01-21-2020, 08:42 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by volley

What happened to the art of writing full sentences?

Thanks for your attempt to clarify!

I think I left those in the office, after a day of replying to ...eheemmm... counterparts

Pely · 01-21-2020, 08:51 AM

And what about his way.
FF 70-210/F4 and announcement of DA 70-200/F4. This does make sense according to roadmap - ok, they maybe thrash DA 50-300 3.X-5.X and rather make DA 70-200/F4. If OoKU is right - and MAYBE he is just playing with our anticipations

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Andrea K · 01-21-2020, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by OoKU

720/4

Could be interesting to know what happened to the HD PENTAX-D FA 70-200mm f4 of the roadmap...

BarneyL · 01-21-2020, 09:09 AM - **1 Like**

Maybe it's D-FA* 720mm F4

reh321 · 01-21-2020, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by volley

What happened to the art of writing full sentences?

Thanks for your attempt to clarify!

Texting

sundown · 01-21-2020, 09:12 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BarneyL

Maybe it's D-FA* 720mm F4

I thought about that one too, but it doesn't fit his "remember the roadmap" narrative

Socrateeze · 01-22-2020, 02:10 PM

Well at last! I'm glad that it has finally appeared, albeit long overdue. I had my doubts it would ever appear.

Given that it is a rebrand of the Tamron the IQ will likely hit the "excellent" mark I had been hoping for. That's great news for Pentax FF shooters not looking to build their muscles or worry their bank manager with the 2.8. But it's likely to be a bit heavier than I was hoping - I was hoping for something closer to the excellent Canon 70-200mm f4 (705g). Overall, as a landscape shooter who puts a premium on lightness as well as IQ, I don't regret not hanging on for this lens.

But I'm super happy for all the FF Pentaxians!

BROO · 01-22-2020, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by sundown

I thought about that one too, but it doesn't fit his "remember the roadmap" narrative

Maybe it is a compact and lightweight design that is external zoom and collapsible? Inspired by the HD Pentax-DA 55-300mm PLM ?

Sandy Hancock · 01-22-2020, 02:46 PM - **2 Likes**

Have I missed something, or has the promised official announcement not happened?

**robbiec** · 01-22-2020, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Have I missed something, or has the promised official announcement not happened?

It's not Thursday yet

Mistral75 · 01-22-2020, 03:09 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Have I missed something, or has the promised official announcement not happened?

It happened at 10pm UTC as anticipated.

Sandy Hancock · 01-22-2020, 06:38 PM

I have seen it now

**Des** · 01-23-2020, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

But I can think of a possible reason: the 70-200 f/4 would work well with a rear converter.

The Ricoh site refers to that as one way to use the new lens. They have sample shots taken with the DFA 70-200 + DA 1.4x TC mounted on a KP: Featured03?HD PENTAX-D FA 70-210mmF4ED SDM WR? | About HD Coating / Lenses / Products | RICOH IMAGING (ie effectively 280mm f5.6).

For an APS-C photographer wanting to shoot wildlife, it doesn't seem a particularly appealing option. The DA 55-300 PLM (f5.6 at 260mm) would be much cheaper, half the weight and have much faster AF, even if the IQ isn't quite as good. Or the DA*300 f4 would be one stop faster (a big advantage for wildlife), about the same weight and cheaper than the 70-200 + TC combination, with similar IQ, and also with SDM AF.

I guess the appeal of the option of combining the 70-210 with a TC is versatility for people who mainly shoot landscapes or portraits but want the ability to take the occasional large-or-not-too-distant wildlife/animals shots. That was kind of the sell for the DA*60-250 f4 as well, but we don't see many wildlife shots with that lens (with or without TC) on this site. @Normhead used it for that purpose for some time, but these days he seems to prefer his 300 f2.8 (with or without TC) for static situations or the 55-300 PLM for walks.

awscreo · 01-23-2020, 06:59 PM

Will need to save up a bit, $1200 is a fairly large chunk of cash. I'll get there though, was planning to sell some glass anyway)

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01-21-2020, 08:37 AM	#1111
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,986	Originally posted by volley What happened to the art of writing full sentences? Thanks for your attempt to clarify! I suspect the same thing that happened to quoting so that people would know what one is responding to.....

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sundown Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 588	Originally posted by volley What happened to the art of writing full sentences? Thanks for your attempt to clarify! I think I left those in the office, after a day of replying to ...eheemmm... counterparts

01-21-2020, 08:51 AM	#1113
Pely New Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Moravia (East side of Czech Republic). Posts: 10	And what about his way. FF 70-210/F4 and announcement of DA 70-200/F4. This does make sense according to roadmap - ok, they maybe thrash DA 50-300 3.X-5.X and rather make DA 70-200/F4. If OoKU is right - and MAYBE he is just playing with our anticipations .

01-21-2020, 08:51 AM	#1114
Andrea K Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 822	Originally posted by OoKU 720/4 Could be interesting to know what happened to the HD PENTAX-D FA 70-200mm f4 of the roadmap...

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BarneyL Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 899	Maybe it's D-FA* 720mm F4

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reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,181	Originally posted by volley What happened to the art of writing full sentences? Thanks for your attempt to clarify! Texting

01-21-2020, 09:12 AM - 1 Like	#1117
sundown Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 588	Originally posted by BarneyL Maybe it's D-FA* 720mm F4 I thought about that one too, but it doesn't fit his "remember the roadmap" narrative

01-22-2020, 02:10 PM	#1118
Socrateeze Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Vancouver Posts: 58	Well at last! I'm glad that it has finally appeared, albeit long overdue. I had my doubts it would ever appear. Given that it is a rebrand of the Tamron the IQ will likely hit the "excellent" mark I had been hoping for. That's great news for Pentax FF shooters not looking to build their muscles or worry their bank manager with the 2.8. But it's likely to be a bit heavier than I was hoping - I was hoping for something closer to the excellent Canon 70-200mm f4 (705g). Overall, as a landscape shooter who puts a premium on lightness as well as IQ, I don't regret not hanging on for this lens. But I'm super happy for all the FF Pentaxians!

01-22-2020, 02:41 PM	#1119
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by sundown I thought about that one too, but it doesn't fit his "remember the roadmap" narrative Maybe it is a compact and lightweight design that is external zoom and collapsible? Inspired by the HD Pentax-DA 55-300mm PLM ?

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01-22-2020, 06:38 PM	#1123
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	I have seen it now

01-23-2020, 02:00 PM	#1124
Des Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Victoria Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 6,423	Originally posted by Kunzite But I can think of a possible reason: the 70-200 f/4 would work well with a rear converter. The Ricoh site refers to that as one way to use the new lens. They have sample shots taken with the DFA 70-200 + DA 1.4x TC mounted on a KP: Featured03?HD PENTAX-D FA 70-210mmF4ED SDM WR? \| About HD Coating / Lenses / Products \| RICOH IMAGING (ie effectively 280mm f5.6). For an APS-C photographer wanting to shoot wildlife, it doesn't seem a particularly appealing option. The DA 55-300 PLM (f5.6 at 260mm) would be much cheaper, half the weight and have much faster AF, even if the IQ isn't quite as good. Or the DA300 f4 would be one stop faster (a big advantage for wildlife), about the same weight and cheaper than the 70-200 + TC combination, with similar IQ, and also with SDM AF. I guess the appeal of the option of combining the 70-210 with a TC is versatility for people who mainly shoot landscapes or portraits but want the ability to take the occasional large-or-not-too-distant wildlife/animals shots. That was kind of the sell for the DA60-250 f4 as well, but we don't see many wildlife shots with that lens (with or without TC) on this site. @Normhead used it for that purpose for some time, but these days he seems to prefer his 300 f2.8 (with or without TC) for static situations or the 55-300 PLM for walks.

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awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722	Will need to save up a bit, $1200 is a fairly large chunk of cash. I'll get there though, was planning to sell some glass anyway)