K-1 II, declared best in class

**tduell** · 11-23-2018, 10:39 PM - **11 Likes**

Hello All,
'Australian Camera' magazine, Nov/Dec 2018 edition has their 2019 camera magazine imaging awards, and they have the K-1 II as the best enthusiast digital SLR.
They say, "...has the potential to take on any challenger, given it represents the peak of DSLR technology as we know it."
Quite a good story.

Cheers,
Terry

Adam · 11-23-2018, 10:45 PM - **3 Likes**

I agree

disco_owner · 11-24-2018, 12:14 AM - **1 Like**

..... And with BLACK Friday .. K-1 II is 15% Off the RRP A$2599.00 , Cheapest I have seen it yet.

swanlefitte · 11-24-2018, 12:49 AM

As an enthusiast camera I would wonder what is considered the competition. A d850 is probably considered pro.

**Merv-O** · 11-24-2018, 01:55 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by swanlefitte

As an enthusiast camera I would wonder what is considered the competition. A d850 is probably considered pro.

I think the K-1 ii is a pro camera given its feature set.

Trickortreat · 11-24-2018, 04:54 AM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by Merv-O

I think the K-1 ii is a pro camera given its feature set.

Any camera is a pro camera if you are making money with it. I make money on realestate photos made by a smartphone therefore smartphone is a pro camera.

normhead · 11-24-2018, 07:47 AM - **5 Likes**

Back in the day, many considered a K-5 a pro camera, not on this site, but on many there were lots of excellent professional images shot with K-5s.

The only person who can decide what a pro camera is the person who selects that camera for his professional work. We know there are a number of pros shooting k-1s and K-1iis, so who cares what people call it. It's camera. "pro" and en"enthusiasts" are market spec. They have no basis in actual usage of cameras. The Pros who use K-1 or even K-5 series cameras are not selling their gear because some magazine called their cameras enthusiast cameras.

This reminds me of the first time I made an all-star team playing American football. I was a tackle. (one of those big guys that weighs 300 pounds, I was 5'10" 145 pounds, half a tackle if you will. ) . I was a corner line backer. It was a good year for comers, it was a bad year for tackles, they gave me the tackle spot because I was a better corner than the closest tackle was at his position and I wasn't as good as the two other all star corners. It did have my dad scratching his head though.

I think they just wanted to say something nice about the K-1ii so they put it into a spot where it would excel, It may not be the best pro camera, lot's of competition there, but based on it's pricing it could be argued it's the best enthusiast camera, just by declaring everything above it to be pro.

A nice gesture, framed by a semantical distinction, as opposed to a real world distinction.

Last edited by normhead; 11-25-2018 at 06:26 PM.

reh321 · 11-24-2018, 09:28 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by tduell

Hello All,
'Australian Camera' magazine, Nov/Dec 2018 edition has their 2019 camera magazine imaging awards, and they have the K-1 II as the best enthusiast digital SLR.
They say, "...has the potential to take on any challenger, given it represents the peak of DSLR technology as we know it."
Quite a good story.

Cheers,
Terry

This is great news - let's just appreciate the good 'PR'.

**Pål Jensen** · 11-24-2018, 11:49 AM

Well, they could be doomed anyway... :-)

**clackers** · 11-24-2018, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by tduell

Hello All,
'Australian Camera' magazine, Nov/Dec 2018 edition has their 2019 camera magazine imaging awards, and they have the K-1 II as the best enthusiast digital SLR.
They say, "...has the potential to take on any challenger, given it represents the peak of DSLR technology as we know it."
Quite a good story.

Cheers,
Terry

Not wanting to put a dampener on things, Terry, but out of curiosity does Australian Camera ever feature advertisements placed by CR Kennedy, the Sigma/Pentax/Leica importer?

**Merv-O** · 11-24-2018, 02:25 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Trickortreat

Any camera is a pro camera if you are making money with it. I make money on realestate photos made by a smartphone therefore smartphone is a pro camera.

Odd retort from a 'senior member'. Professional Level cameras offer certain control features that point and shoot and iphones don't have including synchronized flash, astrophotography, extreme high low light ISO levels...editing, and other adjustments. If you take good photos of houses, bedrooms and toilets with your iPhone, then good for you....I rarely see 'professional' high density, low noise photos on real estate listings....a little less sarcasm would be welcome. Perhaps since you're doing so well with your realestate/iPhone photos, you can become a site supporter after 5 years on the Forum...Just saying.

---------- Post added 11-24-18 at 02:29 PM ----------

Originally posted by normhead

Back in the day, many considered a K-5 a pro camera, not on this site, but on many there were lots of excellent professional images shot with K-5s.

The only person who can decide what a pro camera is the person who selects that camera for his professional work. We know there are a number of pros shooting k-1s and K-1iis, so who cares what people call it. It's camera. "pro" and en"enthusiasts" are market spec. They have no basis in actual usage of cameras. The Pros who use K-1 or even K-5 series cameras are not selling their gear because some magazine called their cameras enthusiast cameras.

This reminds me of the first time I made an all-star team playing American football. I was a tackle. (one of those big guys that weighs 300 pounds, I was 5'10" 145 pounds, half a tackle if you will. ) . I was a corner line backer. It was good year for comers, it was a bad year for tackles, they gave me the tackle spot because I was a better corner than the closest tackle was at his position and I wasn't as good as the two other all start tacorners. It did have my dad scratching his head though.

I think they just wanted to say something nice about the K-1ii so they put it into a spot where it would excel, It may not be the best pro camera, lot's of competition there, but based on it's pricing it could be argued it's the best enthusiast camera, just by declaring everything above it to be pro.

A nice gesture, framed by a semantical distinction, as opposed to a real world distinction.

Spot On Norm...

---------- Post added 11-24-18 at 02:29 PM ----------

Originally posted by normhead

Back in the day, many considered a K-5 a pro camera, not on this site, but on many there were lots of excellent professional images shot with K-5s.

The only person who can decide what a pro camera is the person who selects that camera for his professional work. We know there are a number of pros shooting k-1s and K-1iis, so who cares what people call it. It's camera. "pro" and en"enthusiasts" are market spec. They have no basis in actual usage of cameras. The Pros who use K-1 or even K-5 series cameras are not selling their gear because some magazine called their cameras enthusiast cameras.

This reminds me of the first time I made an all-star team playing American football. I was a tackle. (one of those big guys that weighs 300 pounds, I was 5'10" 145 pounds, half a tackle if you will. ) . I was a corner line backer. It was good year for comers, it was a bad year for tackles, they gave me the tackle spot because I was a better corner than the closest tackle was at his position and I wasn't as good as the two other all start tacorners. It did have my dad scratching his head though.

I think they just wanted to say something nice about the K-1ii so they put it into a spot where it would excel, It may not be the best pro camera, lot's of competition there, but based on it's pricing it could be argued it's the best enthusiast camera, just by declaring everything above it to be pro.

A nice gesture, framed by a semantical distinction, as opposed to a real world distinction.

Spot On Norm...

swanlefitte · 11-24-2018, 02:43 PM - **1 Like**

It is a semantical distinction. What's more is it isn't even standardized. I do think it is standardized enough to make the qualification that it is a "professional" grade based on features, not a pro's camera.

I am glad they paid tribute to this great camera. Best of arbitrary class just doesn't add anything except attention grabbing. It's always nice to hear good things though.

**tduell** · 11-24-2018, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by clackers

Not wanting to put a dampener on things, Terry, but out of curiosity does Australian Camera ever feature advertisements placed by CR Kennedy, the Sigma/Pentax/Leica importer?

I don't think there are any in this edition.

[late correction] I just had another quick look and there is an ad for Leica, no sign of any for Sigma or Pentax.

Cheers,
Terry

**clackers** · 11-24-2018, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by tduell

I don't think there are any in this edition.

[late correction] I just had another quick look and there is an ad for Leica, no sign of any for Sigma or Pentax.

Cheers,
Terry

Thanks, Terry, that's all I wanted to know.

Frater · 11-24-2018, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by swanlefitte

Best of arbitrary class just doesn't add anything except attention grabbing. It's always nice to hear good things though.

It is natural, that web sites which focus on features sets tend to vote up the K-1 II (or Pentax in general).

Whereas hard-core testing web sites which test cameras through to their bones, esp. on how well various features are implemented, tend to vote down Pentax cameras (such as DPReview does).

It'll always be like that.

11-23-2018, 10:39 PM - 11 Likes	#1
tduell Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,513	K-1 II, declared best in class Hello All, 'Australian Camera' magazine, Nov/Dec 2018 edition has their 2019 camera magazine imaging awards, and they have the K-1 II as the best enthusiast digital SLR. They say, "...has the potential to take on any challenger, given it represents the peak of DSLR technology as we know it." Quite a good story. Cheers, Terry

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11-24-2018, 02:25 PM - 1 Like	#11
Merv-O Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Philadelphia Photos: Albums Posts: 2,098	Originally posted by Trickortreat Any camera is a pro camera if you are making money with it. I make money on realestate photos made by a smartphone therefore smartphone is a pro camera. Odd retort from a 'senior member'. Professional Level cameras offer certain control features that point and shoot and iphones don't have including synchronized flash, astrophotography, extreme high low light ISO levels...editing, and other adjustments. If you take good photos of houses, bedrooms and toilets with your iPhone, then good for you....I rarely see 'professional' high density, low noise photos on real estate listings....a little less sarcasm would be welcome. Perhaps since you're doing so well with your realestate/iPhone photos, you can become a site supporter after 5 years on the Forum...Just saying. ---------- Post added 11-24-18 at 02:29 PM ---------- Originally posted by normhead Back in the day, many considered a K-5 a pro camera, not on this site, but on many there were lots of excellent professional images shot with K-5s. The only person who can decide what a pro camera is the person who selects that camera for his professional work. We know there are a number of pros shooting k-1s and K-1iis, so who cares what people call it. It's camera. "pro" and en"enthusiasts" are market spec. They have no basis in actual usage of cameras. The Pros who use K-1 or even K-5 series cameras are not selling their gear because some magazine called their cameras enthusiast cameras. This reminds me of the first time I made an all-star team playing American football. I was a tackle. (one of those big guys that weighs 300 pounds, I was 5'10" 145 pounds, half a tackle if you will. ) . I was a corner line backer. It was good year for comers, it was a bad year for tackles, they gave me the tackle spot because I was a better corner than the closest tackle was at his position and I wasn't as good as the two other all start tacorners. It did have my dad scratching his head though. I think they just wanted to say something nice about the K-1ii so they put it into a spot where it would excel, It may not be the best pro camera, lot's of competition there, but based on it's pricing it could be argued it's the best enthusiast camera, just by declaring everything above it to be pro. A nice gesture, framed by a semantical distinction, as opposed to a real world distinction. Spot On Norm... ---------- Post added 11-24-18 at 02:29 PM ---------- Originally posted by normhead Back in the day, many considered a K-5 a pro camera, not on this site, but on many there were lots of excellent professional images shot with K-5s. The only person who can decide what a pro camera is the person who selects that camera for his professional work. We know there are a number of pros shooting k-1s and K-1iis, so who cares what people call it. It's camera. "pro" and en"enthusiasts" are market spec. They have no basis in actual usage of cameras. The Pros who use K-1 or even K-5 series cameras are not selling their gear because some magazine called their cameras enthusiast cameras. This reminds me of the first time I made an all-star team playing American football. I was a tackle. (one of those big guys that weighs 300 pounds, I was 5'10" 145 pounds, half a tackle if you will. ) . I was a corner line backer. It was good year for comers, it was a bad year for tackles, they gave me the tackle spot because I was a better corner than the closest tackle was at his position and I wasn't as good as the two other all start tacorners. It did have my dad scratching his head though. I think they just wanted to say something nice about the K-1ii so they put it into a spot where it would excel, It may not be the best pro camera, lot's of competition there, but based on it's pricing it could be argued it's the best enthusiast camera, just by declaring everything above it to be pro. A nice gesture, framed by a semantical distinction, as opposed to a real world distinction. Spot On Norm... Last edited by Merv-O; 11-24-2018 at 02:28 PM. Reason: typos

11-24-2018, 02:54 PM	#13
tduell Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,513 Original Poster	Originally posted by clackers Not wanting to put a dampener on things, Terry, but out of curiosity does Australian Camera ever feature advertisements placed by CR Kennedy, the Sigma/Pentax/Leica importer? I don't think there are any in this edition. [late correction] I just had another quick look and there is an ad for Leica, no sign of any for Sigma or Pentax. Cheers, Terry Last edited by tduell; 11-24-2018 at 03:09 PM. Reason: Additional info.

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11-24-2018, 12:14 AM - 1 Like	#3
disco_owner Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,629	..... And with BLACK Friday .. K-1 II is 15% Off the RRP A$2599.00 , Cheapest I have seen it yet.

11-24-2018, 12:49 AM	#4
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	As an enthusiast camera I would wonder what is considered the competition. A d850 is probably considered pro.

11-24-2018, 01:55 AM - 3 Likes	#5
Merv-O Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Philadelphia Photos: Albums Posts: 2,098	Originally posted by swanlefitte As an enthusiast camera I would wonder what is considered the competition. A d850 is probably considered pro. I think the K-1 ii is a pro camera given its feature set.

11-24-2018, 04:54 AM - 7 Likes	#6
Trickortreat Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 561	Originally posted by Merv-O I think the K-1 ii is a pro camera given its feature set. Any camera is a pro camera if you are making money with it. I make money on realestate photos made by a smartphone therefore smartphone is a pro camera.

11-24-2018, 07:47 AM - 5 Likes	#7
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Back in the day, many considered a K-5 a pro camera, not on this site, but on many there were lots of excellent professional images shot with K-5s. The only person who can decide what a pro camera is the person who selects that camera for his professional work. We know there are a number of pros shooting k-1s and K-1iis, so who cares what people call it. It's camera. "pro" and en"enthusiasts" are market spec. They have no basis in actual usage of cameras. The Pros who use K-1 or even K-5 series cameras are not selling their gear because some magazine called their cameras enthusiast cameras. This reminds me of the first time I made an all-star team playing American football. I was a tackle. (one of those big guys that weighs 300 pounds, I was 5'10" 145 pounds, half a tackle if you will. ) . I was a corner line backer. It was a good year for comers, it was a bad year for tackles, they gave me the tackle spot because I was a better corner than the closest tackle was at his position and I wasn't as good as the two other all star corners. It did have my dad scratching his head though. I think they just wanted to say something nice about the K-1ii so they put it into a spot where it would excel, It may not be the best pro camera, lot's of competition there, but based on it's pricing it could be argued it's the best enthusiast camera, just by declaring everything above it to be pro. A nice gesture, framed by a semantical distinction, as opposed to a real world distinction. Last edited by normhead; 11-25-2018 at 06:26 PM.

11-24-2018, 09:28 AM - 4 Likes	#8
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by tduell Hello All, 'Australian Camera' magazine, Nov/Dec 2018 edition has their 2019 camera magazine imaging awards, and they have the K-1 II as the best enthusiast digital SLR. They say, "...has the potential to take on any challenger, given it represents the peak of DSLR technology as we know it." Quite a good story. Cheers, Terry This is great news - let's just appreciate the good 'PR'.

11-24-2018, 11:49 AM	#9
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Well, they could be doomed anyway... :-)

11-24-2018, 02:17 PM	#10
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by tduell Hello All, 'Australian Camera' magazine, Nov/Dec 2018 edition has their 2019 camera magazine imaging awards, and they have the K-1 II as the best enthusiast digital SLR. They say, "...has the potential to take on any challenger, given it represents the peak of DSLR technology as we know it." Quite a good story. Cheers, Terry Not wanting to put a dampener on things, Terry, but out of curiosity does Australian Camera ever feature advertisements placed by CR Kennedy, the Sigma/Pentax/Leica importer?

11-24-2018, 02:43 PM - 1 Like	#12
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	It is a semantical distinction. What's more is it isn't even standardized. I do think it is standardized enough to make the qualification that it is a "professional" grade based on features, not a pro's camera. I am glad they paid tribute to this great camera. Best of arbitrary class just doesn't add anything except attention grabbing. It's always nice to hear good things though.

11-24-2018, 04:04 PM	#14
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by tduell I don't think there are any in this edition. [late correction] I just had another quick look and there is an ad for Leica, no sign of any for Sigma or Pentax. Cheers, Terry Thanks, Terry, that's all I wanted to know.

11-24-2018, 06:17 PM	#15
Frater Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 143	Originally posted by swanlefitte Best of arbitrary class just doesn't add anything except attention grabbing. It's always nice to hear good things though. It is natural, that web sites which focus on features sets tend to vote up the K-1 II (or Pentax in general). Whereas hard-core testing web sites which test cameras through to their bones, esp. on how well various features are implemented, tend to vote down Pentax cameras (such as DPReview does). It'll always be like that.

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