Photography LIfe lists two Pentax DSLR's in the Top Ten

**pepperberry farm** · 11-30-2018, 05:37 AM - **4 Likes**

I didn't see this posted anywhere on PF, but Photography Life published its 'Best Entry-Level DSLR's of 2018' and two Pentax bodies made the top ten:

Best Entry-Level DSLRs of 2018, Ranked - Photography Life

Docrwm · 11-30-2018, 05:57 AM - **4 Likes**

Thanks for that, nice to see the K-70 as #2 on the list. The author missed some key points, but the two critical ones for me are that ALL Pentax dSLRs have in BODY stabilization so even our old M42 lenses are stabilized and, unlike Nikon and Canon where all their old glass isn't really compatible, with Pentax it all works and all of it is stabilized, and we have the most complete lineup of small APS-C specific primes.

**UncleVanya** · 11-30-2018, 08:18 AM - **1 Like**

Interesting choices for entry level. I'd say most Nikon users wouldn't agree that the 5xxx series is entry level, nor would most Pentax users agree that the KP was entry level.

normhead · 11-30-2018, 08:22 AM

It is amazing that with the amount of attention Pentax gets in this type of article, that they don't have better market share. They consistently get mentioned in lists like this. You'd think more people would clue in.

Docrwm · 11-30-2018, 08:34 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by normhead

It is amazing that with the amount of attention Pentax gets in this type of article, that they don't have better market share. They consistently get mentioned in lists like this. You'd think more people would clue in.

Unfortunately articles like those are singing to the choir. The readers have, mostly, already made choices. Lack of presence in the retail outlets and other sources of contact for potential buyers is far more debilitating for Pentax.

normhead · 11-30-2018, 09:09 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Docrwm

Unfortunately articles like those are singing to the choir. The readers have, mostly, already made choices. Lack of presence in the retail outlets and other sources of contact for potential buyers is far more debilitating for Pentax.

No doubt true, but still, it should count for something. There have to be some independent thinkers out there.

**twilhelm** · 11-30-2018, 09:18 AM - **1 Like**

@normhead, I’m amazed daily at how few people there are left that are “independent” thinkers, or are willing to do a little real research before biting on an advertisement.

It’s a good article and I can’t really disagree much with the assessment of each camera. Though I still find the interaction with Pentax cameras to be more second nature than any other brand. If the KP were to be at the $700 price point, I could see it as the #1 all day.

**From1980** · 11-30-2018, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Docrwm

Unfortunately articles like those are singing to the choir. The readers have, mostly, already made choices. Lack of presence in the retail outlets and other sources of contact for potential buyers is far more debilitating for Pentax.

Agree. This was always a valid point - Pentax lacks exposure to potential new customers now as it did 40 years ago. There was always less advertising and a smaller dealer base.

**aslyfox** · 11-30-2018, 10:54 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by normhead

No doubt true, but still, it should count for something. There have to be some independent thinkers out there.

you can choose to be part of the mob rushing down the road

or choose to follow this

" . . . take the one less traveled by

And that has made all the difference. " - Robert Frost

1. The Road Not Taken. Frost, Robert. 1920. Mountain Interval

**clickclick** · 11-30-2018, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by normhead

No doubt true, but still, it should count for something. There have to be some independent thinkers out there.

There are, and we have them here.

**Alex645** · 11-30-2018, 12:22 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Interesting choices for entry level. I'd say most Nikon users wouldn't agree that the 5xxx series is entry level, nor would most Pentax users agree that the KP was entry level.

I agree that most Nikon users wouldn't agree that the 5xxx is entry level, but I am a Nikon & Pentax user and considering it the 5000 series has a pentamirror, no DOF preview, and is not weather-sealed, it is not really a mid-level like their D7xxx series.

And I also agree that the KP is not an entry level camera, and in some respects, neither is the K-70 other than the fact that it is currently the least expensive Pentax DSLR.

With that said, I do believe both cameras are excellent choices for anyone getting into DSLRs and why not skipping the two-phase upgrading one would do with a Canikon?

**Larrymc** · 11-30-2018, 12:33 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

No doubt true, but still, it should count for something. There have to be some independent thinkers out there.

I consider myself an independent thinker, I don't follow trends, I rarely give "expert's" opinions anymore weight than anyone else's opinion . When I decided in 2013 that I wanted to move up to a DSLR from my Panasonic Super Zoom, I looked at as much information about the various DSLRs on the market in my price range as I could. Non appealed to me except the Pentax K-30 and K-50, I finally settled on the K-50 because it was the newer of the two Pentax DSLRs. What appealed to me first was IBIS which none of the other cameras offered, then came weather sealing which none of the others offered in my price range. Things like dual control wheels which Canon and Nikon models readily available at big box stores didn't have. All of my research pointed me to Pentax and their DSLRs even though none were available to handle any where near me, so after 5 years and two Pentax models I'm here waiting on the next High spec APS-C iteration. I'm very happy with my decision

reh321 · 11-30-2018, 01:24 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by From1980

Agree. This was always a valid point - Pentax lacks exposure to potential new customers now as it did 40 years ago. There was always less advertising and a smaller dealer base.

Forty years ago is probably an over-statement. When I purchased my first Pentax 39 years ago, I knew Pentax as a leading brand and purchased it at a regular camera store. When I followed up with my Super Program 35 years ago, I was able to purchase it at a local "catalog" store called Tepe's {others here will remember Service Merchandise which was similar in concept}, which had roughly the same clientèle as K-Mart. I believe Pentax's loss of visibility occurred as they were slow first with AF and then with digital.

swanlefitte · 11-30-2018, 02:15 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by aslyfox

you can choose to be part of the mob rushing down the road

or choose to follow this

" . . . take the one less traveled by

And that has made all the difference. " - Robert Frost

1. The Road Not Taken. Frost, Robert. 1920. Mountain Interval

Careful this poem is designed to trip you up. The road not taken is the one he doesn't takes or the one others didn't? All the difference in a good or bad way? Both roads haven't had the leaves trampled and seem equal. The decision isn't seen as different until after the travel.

That is the problem with novice camera buyers, there is no way to know what matters to you until you learn with the camera you need to buy. Once you have a camera what you learn is based on what it has and not what it lacks.

totsmuyco · 11-30-2018, 04:28 PM - **1 Like**

I don't think I will agree that the KP is an entry level camera. It's quite powerful than an entry level camera.

11-30-2018, 10:54 AM - 2 Likes	#9
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,582	Originally posted by normhead No doubt true, but still, it should count for something. There have to be some independent thinkers out there. you can choose to be part of the mob rushing down the road or choose to follow this " . . . take the one less traveled by And that has made all the difference. " - Robert Frost 1. The Road Not Taken. Frost, Robert. 1920. Mountain Interval Last edited by aslyfox; 11-30-2018 at 11:01 AM.

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pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,751	Photography LIfe lists two Pentax DSLR's in the Top Ten I didn't see this posted anywhere on PF, but Photography Life published its 'Best Entry-Level DSLR's of 2018' and two Pentax bodies made the top ten: Best Entry-Level DSLRs of 2018, Ranked - Photography Life

11-30-2018, 05:57 AM - 4 Likes	#2
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Thanks for that, nice to see the K-70 as #2 on the list. The author missed some key points, but the two critical ones for me are that ALL Pentax dSLRs have in BODY stabilization so even our old M42 lenses are stabilized and, unlike Nikon and Canon where all their old glass isn't really compatible, with Pentax it all works and all of it is stabilized, and we have the most complete lineup of small APS-C specific primes.

11-30-2018, 08:18 AM - 1 Like	#3
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445	Interesting choices for entry level. I'd say most Nikon users wouldn't agree that the 5xxx series is entry level, nor would most Pentax users agree that the KP was entry level.

11-30-2018, 08:22 AM	#4
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	It is amazing that with the amount of attention Pentax gets in this type of article, that they don't have better market share. They consistently get mentioned in lists like this. You'd think more people would clue in.

11-30-2018, 08:34 AM - 2 Likes	#5
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by normhead It is amazing that with the amount of attention Pentax gets in this type of article, that they don't have better market share. They consistently get mentioned in lists like this. You'd think more people would clue in. Unfortunately articles like those are singing to the choir. The readers have, mostly, already made choices. Lack of presence in the retail outlets and other sources of contact for potential buyers is far more debilitating for Pentax.

11-30-2018, 09:09 AM - 1 Like	#6
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Docrwm Unfortunately articles like those are singing to the choir. The readers have, mostly, already made choices. Lack of presence in the retail outlets and other sources of contact for potential buyers is far more debilitating for Pentax. No doubt true, but still, it should count for something. There have to be some independent thinkers out there.

11-30-2018, 09:18 AM - 1 Like	#7
twilhelm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,369	@normhead, I’m amazed daily at how few people there are left that are “independent” thinkers, or are willing to do a little real research before biting on an advertisement. It’s a good article and I can’t really disagree much with the assessment of each camera. Though I still find the interaction with Pentax cameras to be more second nature than any other brand. If the KP were to be at the $700 price point, I could see it as the #1 all day.

11-30-2018, 10:42 AM	#8
From1980 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Essex, Ontario Posts: 682	Originally posted by Docrwm Unfortunately articles like those are singing to the choir. The readers have, mostly, already made choices. Lack of presence in the retail outlets and other sources of contact for potential buyers is far more debilitating for Pentax. Agree. This was always a valid point - Pentax lacks exposure to potential new customers now as it did 40 years ago. There was always less advertising and a smaller dealer base.

11-30-2018, 11:23 AM	#10
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	Originally posted by normhead No doubt true, but still, it should count for something. There have to be some independent thinkers out there. There are, and we have them here.

11-30-2018, 12:22 PM - 1 Like	#11
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,526	Originally posted by UncleVanya Interesting choices for entry level. I'd say most Nikon users wouldn't agree that the 5xxx series is entry level, nor would most Pentax users agree that the KP was entry level. I agree that most Nikon users wouldn't agree that the 5xxx is entry level, but I am a Nikon & Pentax user and considering it the 5000 series has a pentamirror, no DOF preview, and is not weather-sealed, it is not really a mid-level like their D7xxx series. And I also agree that the KP is not an entry level camera, and in some respects, neither is the K-70 other than the fact that it is currently the least expensive Pentax DSLR. With that said, I do believe both cameras are excellent choices for anyone getting into DSLRs and why not skipping the two-phase upgrading one would do with a Canikon?

11-30-2018, 12:33 PM - 1 Like	#12
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by normhead No doubt true, but still, it should count for something. There have to be some independent thinkers out there. I consider myself an independent thinker, I don't follow trends, I rarely give "expert's" opinions anymore weight than anyone else's opinion . When I decided in 2013 that I wanted to move up to a DSLR from my Panasonic Super Zoom, I looked at as much information about the various DSLRs on the market in my price range as I could. Non appealed to me except the Pentax K-30 and K-50, I finally settled on the K-50 because it was the newer of the two Pentax DSLRs. What appealed to me first was IBIS which none of the other cameras offered, then came weather sealing which none of the others offered in my price range. Things like dual control wheels which Canon and Nikon models readily available at big box stores didn't have. All of my research pointed me to Pentax and their DSLRs even though none were available to handle any where near me, so after 5 years and two Pentax models I'm here waiting on the next High spec APS-C iteration. I'm very happy with my decision

11-30-2018, 01:24 PM - 2 Likes	#13
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,181	Originally posted by From1980 Agree. This was always a valid point - Pentax lacks exposure to potential new customers now as it did 40 years ago. There was always less advertising and a smaller dealer base. Forty years ago is probably an over-statement. When I purchased my first Pentax 39 years ago, I knew Pentax as a leading brand and purchased it at a regular camera store. When I followed up with my Super Program 35 years ago, I was able to purchase it at a local "catalog" store called Tepe's {others here will remember Service Merchandise which was similar in concept}, which had roughly the same clientèle as K-Mart. I believe Pentax's loss of visibility occurred as they were slow first with AF and then with digital.

11-30-2018, 02:15 PM - 4 Likes	#14
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	Originally posted by aslyfox you can choose to be part of the mob rushing down the road or choose to follow this " . . . take the one less traveled by And that has made all the difference. " - Robert Frost 1. The Road Not Taken. Frost, Robert. 1920. Mountain Interval Careful this poem is designed to trip you up. The road not taken is the one he doesn't takes or the one others didn't? All the difference in a good or bad way? Both roads haven't had the leaves trampled and seem equal. The decision isn't seen as different until after the travel. That is the problem with novice camera buyers, there is no way to know what matters to you until you learn with the camera you need to buy. Once you have a camera what you learn is based on what it has and not what it lacks.

11-30-2018, 04:28 PM - 1 Like	#15
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	I don't think I will agree that the KP is an entry level camera. It's quite powerful than an entry level camera.