Originally posted by Merv-O I love hearing people bash Leica when they know so little about the brand..
And I hate people constantly praising them for no apparent reason.
Are you going to show us these images that blow away your K-3, maybe some comparison shots in a poll to find out if everyone else sees what you see?
There are times I have to do blind tests to see if I can trust my eyes, and it turns out I can't.
So how can I trust yours?
I tried looking up the Leica CL on Imaging Resources but they have neither test images or sample photos.
A Leica CL search on flickr turns up some of the worst photo I've ever seen, but, the photographers fault, not the cameras.
Search: Lieca CL | Flickr
I'm just looking for reasons why a non-Lieca convert would buy any of this.
We've been through this before I believe.
The absence of data supported responses leads me to lean towards confirmation bias. I don't own the camera, but not having made the investment in bodies, I also have no reason to hold an unconfirmable or confirmation bias opinion.
For most of us who will never own a Leica, we need some convincing.
If your opinion is worth more than ours because we know so little about the brand, it should be easy for you to convince us. Especially since I'm constantly surprised by my K-3 images, because whenever scene has promise I reach for the K-1. Now I could claim the K-1 is a lot better than the K-3, blind testing shows I'd be wrong. But the K-3 images still blow me away on occasion.
So here I sit, you say the Leica leaves the K-3 in the dust. I can't even prove the K-1 leaves the K-3 in the dust. I suspect we are using extremely different evaluation criteria. Yours seems to include using the Lieca like I use my K-1. Ya, for the most part my best images are K-1 images, because I take the K-1 to the most promising shoots. How is your evaluation different? I take my K-3 out for hikes. So let's look at the aforementioned K-1. Since the K-1 costs less, you have to ask, is a Leica CL better than a K-1? You're still saving money buying the Pentax.
To do so it would have to be the highest res APS_c sensor ever produced. And to match the DR and colour depth of a K-1 with a 24 MP APS_c sensor... whatever.
I can't find a single unbiased review site that say Lieca is better than anything else, forget about a K-3. Maybe you have one.
And the last time you sent me down this rabbit hole, I actually pretty much disproved your argument that there was Lieca glass equivalent to the DF*50 1.4. The only actual published comparisons suggested, even if they didn't prove otherwise.
I'm hoping you'll poop or get off the pot here. You can't just keep throwing out these lines of claimed superiority based on nothing but your own bias and preference.
We understand your personal preference for Lieca. What we don't know is if in blind test, anyone people would share your preference. From what you've posted we aha eno way of evaluating that.