DP Review puts K-1 Mark II as second worst camera of 2018

**BigMackCam** · 03-05-2019, 06:17 AM

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**Merv-O** · 03-05-2019, 06:21 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by normhead

I seriously question it's original existence.

Well, unless it's a photo theme thread, this is usually what happens....Personally, I am tired of the Pentax is slow focusing, their models are behind the technology....it's all BS. The K-1, KP (& to a lesser extent, the K-3ii) have such great IQ, they surpass most of the current offerings. Plus, if you want slow focusing, try a $7,000 Leica M10. Pentax has so many ground breaking features, if there is a weak link to Pentax, it's their marketing department.

I remember in the 1960's and 1970's, camera manufacturers would role out a new camera every three to five years. This constant creation of new, new, newer is just a waste. Example: most people who bought K-3's didn't upgrade to K-3ii's --at least no immediately. Why? prudent manufacturers don't cheapen their prior models by saturating annual flows of "new"models. Evolutionary changes over time then create revolutionary ideas.

DP Reviews is an Amazon marketing arm: they know they can sell more CanIkonOny models. Why? because Pentax/RICOH do little or no marketing. In fact, this Forum is one of their best marketing tools. Cheers....kill this thread--we know the K-1 ii is excellent, we know Pentax is excellent....the end.

reh321 · 03-05-2019, 05:52 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Merv-O

As an aside, the KP has the same technology and is a beast in low light. Having both, I can attest to the decent images up to 12,500 ISO, but with a "limited" lens perhaps to 25,000--I just never had to use that much speed...

I won't make any claims of quality for these previously posted images from my KP - each at ISO = 204800, but I do feel good about the way colors are preserved {I did have to hand-focus in LV}

**Merv-O** · 03-05-2019, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by reh321

I won't make any claims of quality for these previously posted images from my KP - each at ISO = 204800, but I do feel good about the way colors are preserved {I did have to hand-focus in LV}

Like I said the KP is a beast !!! Awesome Reh: You're a beast too !! in a good way....

teiki arii · 03-08-2019, 08:11 AM

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**Belnan** · 03-14-2019, 11:41 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by teiki arii

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Phew that was a bit hard to read through google translate. I think he was happy, not sure. Wide open looks better than the Canon 50 1.2 imho but both are very nice, the difference is small, the price is not.

abhaskare · 03-21-2019, 01:19 PM

Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii

reh321 · 03-21-2019, 01:25 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by abhaskare

Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii

The KP already is in that gap, the K-3ii replacement will go higher in that gap, and a lower end 24mp FF is also a possibility at some point. Don't assume a lack of cameras planned based on what is available right now.

BROO · 03-21-2019, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by abhaskare

Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii

Yeah. Make it manual focus only with a traditional split prism and remove the rear screen (wifi to smartphone instead), give it a LX style body and viewfinder. Lots of fun with all those legacy lenses and cheap too!

**Larrymc** · 03-21-2019, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by BROO

Yeah. Make it manual focus only with a traditional split prism and remove the rear screen (wifi to smartphone instead), give it a LX style body and viewfinder. Lots of fun with all those legacy lenses and cheap too!

Dream on.

**Larrymc** · 03-21-2019, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by abhaskare

Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii

But who exactly is going to buy this sort of camera? They are doing exactly what they need to do....... finish their APS-C high spec camera then maybe look at what you might want.

reh321 · 03-21-2019, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by BROO

Yeah. Make it manual focus only with a traditional split prism and remove the rear screen (wifi to smartphone instead), give it a LX style body and viewfinder. Lots of fun with all those legacy lenses and cheap too!

This is just the opposite of what we have been seeing from Pentax lately - more sophisticated not simpler, more expensive not cheaper.

**clackers** · 03-21-2019, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by reh321

This is just the opposite of what we have been seeing from Pentax lately - more sophisticated not simpler, more expensive not cheaper.

Yes, all niche manufacturers *do* have to be a little different, not 'fit in' with the Big Boys in a declining market, but this would probably be something akin to commercial suicide.

But if the market fell even further than Canon predicts, and people were actually willing to pay big bucks for it out of sheer joy, you'd greenlight it surely!

biz-engineer · 03-21-2019, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by abhaskare

Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii

The K1 sells for $1300, it closes the gap between the KP and the K1 II.

stub · 03-22-2019, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

The K1 sells for $1300, it closes the gap between the KP and the K1 II.

Except the lens dont compare in price unfortunately...

03-21-2019, 04:20 PM	#851
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by abhaskare Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii But who exactly is going to buy this sort of camera? They are doing exactly what they need to do....... finish their APS-C high spec camera then maybe look at what you might want. Last edited by BigMackCam; 03-21-2019 at 04:41 PM. Reason: Keeping it friendly

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03-05-2019, 06:17 AM	#841
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,644	Folks, we've just done a little clean-up on a few of today's posts. Let's keep any remaining conversation constructive and helpful, and within the rules and spirit of these forums, if you please. Thanks

03-05-2019, 06:21 AM - 3 Likes	#842
Merv-O Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Philadelphia Photos: Albums Posts: 2,098	Originally posted by normhead I seriously question it's original existence. Well, unless it's a photo theme thread, this is usually what happens....Personally, I am tired of the Pentax is slow focusing, their models are behind the technology....it's all BS. The K-1, KP (& to a lesser extent, the K-3ii) have such great IQ, they surpass most of the current offerings. Plus, if you want slow focusing, try a $7,000 Leica M10. Pentax has so many ground breaking features, if there is a weak link to Pentax, it's their marketing department. I remember in the 1960's and 1970's, camera manufacturers would role out a new camera every three to five years. This constant creation of new, new, newer is just a waste. Example: most people who bought K-3's didn't upgrade to K-3ii's --at least no immediately. Why? prudent manufacturers don't cheapen their prior models by saturating annual flows of "new"models. Evolutionary changes over time then create revolutionary ideas. DP Reviews is an Amazon marketing arm: they know they can sell more CanIkonOny models. Why? because Pentax/RICOH do little or no marketing. In fact, this Forum is one of their best marketing tools. Cheers....kill this thread--we know the K-1 ii is excellent, we know Pentax is excellent....the end.

03-05-2019, 05:52 PM - 2 Likes	#843
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by Merv-O As an aside, the KP has the same technology and is a beast in low light. Having both, I can attest to the decent images up to 12,500 ISO, but with a "limited" lens perhaps to 25,000--I just never had to use that much speed... I won't make any claims of quality for these previously posted images from my KP - each at ISO = 204800, but I do feel good about the way colors are preserved {I did have to hand-focus in LV}

03-05-2019, 09:40 PM	#844
Merv-O Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Philadelphia Photos: Albums Posts: 2,098	Originally posted by reh321 I won't make any claims of quality for these previously posted images from my KP - each at ISO = 204800, but I do feel good about the way colors are preserved {I did have to hand-focus in LV} Like I said the KP is a beast !!! Awesome Reh: You're a beast too !! in a good way....

03-08-2019, 08:11 AM	#845
teiki arii Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 689	????????? ??DFA50mmF1.4?? - ????

03-14-2019, 11:41 AM - 1 Like	#846
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by teiki arii ????????? ??DFA50mmF1.4?? - ???? Phew that was a bit hard to read through google translate. I think he was happy, not sure. Wide open looks better than the Canon 50 1.2 imho but both are very nice, the difference is small, the price is not.

03-21-2019, 01:19 PM	#847
abhaskare Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Phoenixville, PA Posts: 136	Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii

03-21-2019, 01:25 PM - 1 Like	#848
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by abhaskare Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii The KP already is in that gap, the K-3ii replacement will go higher in that gap, and a lower end 24mp FF is also a possibility at some point. Don't assume a lack of cameras planned based on what is available right now.

03-21-2019, 02:11 PM	#849
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by abhaskare Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii Yeah. Make it manual focus only with a traditional split prism and remove the rear screen (wifi to smartphone instead), give it a LX style body and viewfinder. Lots of fun with all those legacy lenses and cheap too!

03-21-2019, 04:16 PM	#850
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by BROO Yeah. Make it manual focus only with a traditional split prism and remove the rear screen (wifi to smartphone instead), give it a LX style body and viewfinder. Lots of fun with all those legacy lenses and cheap too! Dream on.

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03-21-2019, 06:42 PM	#852
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by BROO Yeah. Make it manual focus only with a traditional split prism and remove the rear screen (wifi to smartphone instead), give it a LX style body and viewfinder. Lots of fun with all those legacy lenses and cheap too! This is just the opposite of what we have been seeing from Pentax lately - more sophisticated not simpler, more expensive not cheaper.

03-21-2019, 07:50 PM	#853
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by reh321 This is just the opposite of what we have been seeing from Pentax lately - more sophisticated not simpler, more expensive not cheaper. Yes, all niche manufacturers do have to be a little different, not 'fit in' with the Big Boys in a declining market, but this would probably be something akin to commercial suicide. But if the market fell even further than Canon predicts, and people were actually willing to pay big bucks for it out of sheer joy, you'd greenlight it surely!

03-21-2019, 11:26 PM	#854
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,223	Originally posted by abhaskare Pentax could have been a little creative. A light weight, lower end FF with 24Mpix ...to close the gap between K70 and K1-ii The K1 sells for $1300, it closes the gap between the KP and the K1 II.

03-22-2019, 05:14 AM	#855
stub Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Manchester Photos: Gallery Posts: 227	Originally posted by biz-engineer The K1 sells for $1300, it closes the gap between the KP and the K1 II. Except the lens dont compare in price unfortunately...