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01-29-2019, 09:33 AM - 1 Like   #61
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Idk, im not in the game for that 35mm, or the 11-18mm so... as rude it may sound... i could care less

But i agree with those who say, the revamped 35mm show that Pentax dont have anything new to show... if they put a DC/PLM/SDM in the 35mm, the new version could talk about RICOH bringing new tech on their lenses, but a screwdriver show more of the same and nothing new to atracct new costumers (maybe a new more affordable FF and some affordable and "quiet" lenses 35mm/50mm)

01-29-2019, 09:35 AM   #62
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Suppose Ricoh Imaging planning to make a mirrorless system. Investing R&D money into further K mount lenses is a wast of money due to Ricoh Imaging likely having a mirrorless system in the works to be released within the next 5 years or so. Better for them to engineer the new glass with the new mount. The FA35 makes sense to me.
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Nobody has mentioned the addition of Quickshift focus. Certainly if Ricoh/Pentax was upgrading the FA 35 ƒ2 they would add Quickshift focus. The singular thing wrong with the FA LTD's is that you can either shoot in manual or Autofocus. With Quickshift you have access to both at once.

Why is everyone so bent out of shape over a screwdrive autofocus 35mm lens. It is a wide angle lens infinity focus is anything outside of ~2 meters so there is never really much focusing happening let alone fast focusing. Anything within 2 meters is so close Quickshift focus allows for precise silent focus every time.

If the picture is accurate the only thing were the upgrade needs to go further is getting rid of the aperture ring. It is just not needed. The effort in keeping the aperture ring should have been better spent making the lens somewhat weather sealed. Eliminating the aperture ring makes that easier. At least a simple O-ring seal for the flange at the very least.
01-29-2019, 09:48 AM - 5 Likes   #64
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QuoteOriginally posted by ffking Quote
Re-releasing an already available lens with new coatings would be an odd thing to do, and sort of goes against the stated policy of concentrating on * lenses and Ltds. The only logic would be if they needed to do a new production run, weren't planning a modern 35mm anytime soon and wanted to bring it in line with the current offering both visually and in terms of coatings. Scarely worth an announcement though.
I agree about needing to do a new production run as a good occasion to update the coatings and cosmetics of the lens.
They are planning a modern 35mm (see the roadmap), but not at this price point.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Macario Quote
mirror tech is even older...........................
The photographic camera is even older..........

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QuoteOriginally posted by virusn3t Quote
But i agree with those who say, the revamped 35mm show that Pentax dont have anything new to show...
Folks, it's still January!
Just yesterday, who was expecting a pre-CP+ announcement? Now that it happens, it's bad?

01-29-2019, 09:54 AM - 2 Likes   #65
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QuoteOriginally posted by x4rd Quote
I think I have been called to reply to this. Probably You haven't photographed any situation, when silent AF is needed, for example a wedding, theathre and cetera. Of course, You can have any screw drive lens You want but You don't change the fact that is ancient tech in terms of modern technology.

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You are comparing apples to oranges
I don't know how loud this lens might be, but a small, light, not too fast, modest wideangle is probably the least critical to excessive focus noise. The depth of field will cover a lot, the focus changes are small, the focussing group (probably) small and leightweight. Actually, this would be a good candidate for PLM or DC. I would not exclude this possibility, since the DA 20-40 does not show many signs of excessive size gain by incorporating it. But, true, the mechanical aperture makes it unlikely in this case.

However, this might be more of a seriously cheap kit lens with very solid IQ than a specialist lens for those quiet moments.
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There come the question (and new thread for the future): should I buy the FA35 f2 or the HD FA35 f2?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rico Quote
Nobody has mentioned the addition of Quickshift focus. Certainly if Ricoh/Pentax was upgrading the FA 35 ƒ2 they would add Quickshift focus. The singular thing wrong with the FA LTD's is that you can either shoot in manual or Autofocus. With Quickshift you have access to both at once.

i did

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QuoteOriginally posted by Rico Quote
Why is everyone so bent out of shape over a screwdrive autofocus 35mm lens.
I don't know that anyone is getting bent out of shape. I'm just wondering why they'd re-release an old 1999 film-era screwdrive lens with some updated coatings when there are so many of the old ones available for little money. We don't know the details, but I'm not seeing the hook. Why would I pay extra for this?
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a lot of people were calling for an HD coating update for the FA Ltd.'s. Now Ricoh seems to do this for a as so far very well judged and affordable lens and the whining is big.
For me it makes sense to update proven, fast and small FA lenses with the new HD coating which is optimized for digital sensors. Why not do this with the FA 50/1.4, FA 20/2.8 and FA 28/2.8 too.
This does not bind to much recources for developing new DFA* lenses and the small size of the FA lenses is very welcome for a lot of K1/K1II and even APS-C users.
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QuoteOriginally posted by x4rd Quote
It's '80 tech....
And a flash hot shoe is 1930’s tech.

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01-29-2019, 10:17 AM - 2 Likes   #71
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
Folks, it's still January!
Just yesterday, who was expecting a pre-CP+ announcement? Now that it happens, it's bad?
Not bad, but well... dare I say it... very Pentaxian. We're waiting with baited breath for news of a K-3 replacement or a new FF camera or an out-of-nowhere new lens... and we get what appears to be a very slightly updated 1999 35mm lens. Which is fine, or even very good for a K-1 owner who wants a 35mm lens witha bit less flare. Functional, reasonable, nice, but not something that is going to rally the troops behind the future of Pentax.

I know, they don't have the resources to rally the troops and we mostly have all the stuff we need, anyway.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ThorSanchez Quote
Not bad, but well... dare I say it... very Pentaxian. We're waiting with baited breath for news of a K-3 replacement or a new FF camera or an out-of-nowhere new lens... and we get what appears to be a very slightly updated 1999 35mm lens. Which is fine, or even very good for a K-1 owner who wants a 35mm lens witha bit less flare. Functional, reasonable, nice, but not something that is going to rally the troops behind the future of Pentax.

I know, they don't have the resources to rally the troops and we mostly have all the stuff we need, anyway.
Again, this is January; this isn't even a CP+ announcement.

And you're ignoring the DA* - was that on purpose?

P.S. If the new 35mm had a DC motor, probably I would've ordered it on the spot. As a screw drive lens...
01-29-2019, 10:22 AM - 2 Likes   #73
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QuoteOriginally posted by ThorSanchez Quote
I'm just wondering why they'd re-release an old 1999 film-era screwdrive lens with some updated coatings when there are so many of the old ones available for little money.
Clearly people are still buying the current version new. An update will likely bring a slight boost to sales. If the current version was not selling they would be discontinuing it when stock ran low.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
Again, this is January; this isn't even a CP+ announcement.

And you're ignoring the DA* - was that on purpose?

P.S. If the new 35mm had a DC motor, probably I would've ordered it on the spot. As a screw drive lens...
No, I wasn't ignoring that on purpose. It's been on the roadmap for a while, everyone has kind of assumed it was the next thing up, and I don't have any intention of buying it. I'm a big fan of the much smaller 15mm LTD to cover that basic function, and I don't have over $1000 allocated for any lens.

Now... if they'd re-release the 21mm with weather sealing I could probably overlook the screw drive.
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If the current rumors about the new 35 being just recoated FA lens from '99 are true, then I can only ask, why did they bother?


I remember that PF crew asked Ricoh reps during last Photokina whether they considered updating old screwdriven lenses with motors, and they said 'no'. I mean, surely, that would require much more effort than just applying newer coatings and calling it a day...
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