11-18 and revamped 35mm F2 on january 31?

normhead · 01-30-2019, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by pres589

Price seems alright (not a give-away, not crazy high) for the 35. $1400 for the 11-18 seems a bit on the crazy side to me...

Looks like my Sigma 8-16 will be my goto APS-c UWA for along time. I was curious, but I'm already set up for APS-c UWA.
And I don't find 35mm as focal length all that appealing. My 35s are my least used lenses.

Maybe the next announcment will be more to my liking. <cough> 18-35 ƒ4 FF zoom or 20-24mm ff prime </cough>.

Dericali · 01-30-2019, 03:17 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bobbotron

Wow, there's just no pleasing some people.

\

Well, I was very pleased with the the DFA*50mm. Right now I have a Pentax camera and two lenses that deliver great performance - the new 50, and the DFA* 70-200mm. Unfortunately by comparison all the other lenses underperform when it comes to autofocusing and overall control, to the extent that I not use them (unless for specific requirements, e.g. 100mm macro, 15-30mm etc).

Now I want more lenses that can perform at this level. As I basically said in my other comment, there are two kinds of pentax users - those that are buying new glass and those that are happy with what they have, or mainly buy second hand. I think that this lens will mainly appeal to the second group, so I hope Pentax haven't sunk a lot of their R&D effort into it. That said, maybe they think it will be a decent seller in Japan, and maybe it was easy for them to do.

If you have been pleased with the rate of new lenses etc released by Pentax, then that's your business.

superdave · 01-30-2019, 03:17 PM

I expected nice sunstars with the 11-18...

But I want one anyway!

BarneyL · 01-30-2019, 03:21 PM - **3 Likes**

I wonder how much Pentax bashing will appear tomorrow, after DPR, lenstip etc. publish the news...

wkraus · 01-30-2019, 03:23 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ffking

Yes - the Pentax 100mm macro is still the same optical design from the 1980s, isn't it? - and that's a very nice lens.

While I agree that there are 1980s lenses that perform very fine, what you're saying concerning the 100mm Macro is quite mistaken. The A version from 1985 was a 7-7 construction, the F and FA were 8-9 (identical) and the two DFA versions were still 8-9 but clearly not identical (see Pentax Short Telephoto Prime Lenses | The K-Mount Page).

**ffking** · 01-30-2019, 03:26 PM - **1 Like**

They're upping their game a bit on sample images - nothing stellar, but some nice ones

fsge · 01-30-2019, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by normhead

Looks like my Sigma 8-16 will be my goto APS-c UWA for along time. I was curious, but I'm already set up for APS-c UWA.
And I don't find 35mm as focal length all that appealing. My 35s are my least used lenses.

Maybe the next announcment will be more to my liking. <cough> 18-35 ƒ4 FF zoom or 20-24mm ff prime </cough>.

sigma 8-16 is a beautiful lens. I have mine since 2013 and is definitely part of my top3.
With 35 ltd they are very good reasons to stick to APS-C

wkraus · 01-30-2019, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by ogl

FA28 iwas not better. 6 apertures blades and softer than F28.

So how do you know your copy was good when it wasn't good? The F was optically the same as the not-so-great A28.

taktoon · 01-30-2019, 03:34 PM - **1 Like**

If 11-18 is very sharp in the whole frame at f5.6 an f8, "flareless" and I manage to find European price than it will be probably my next buy (wallet just started to run away).

**Larrymc** · 01-30-2019, 03:38 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BarneyL

I wonder how much Pentax bashing will appear tomorrow, after DPR, lenstip etc. publish the news...

Don't worry the usual suspects are getting their scripts written at this moment!

wed7 · 01-30-2019, 03:39 PM

Canikosonic are releasing their new line up of lenses for their MILC FF cameras, (50s, 35s etc.) since Pentax do not have mirrorless at the moment ... Now it's Pentax's turn. They just want to be relevant, and hopefully continue keeping their base customers from leaving.

Mistral75 · 01-30-2019, 03:46 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by taktoon

If 11-18 is very sharp in the whole frame at f5.6 an f8, "flareless" and I manage to find European price than it will be probably my next buy (wallet just started to run away).

European prices are €1,399 for the HD Pentax-DA★ 11-18mm f/2.8 ED DC AW and €399 for the HD Pentax-FA 35mm f/2.

normhead · 01-30-2019, 03:47 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Dericali

If you have been pleased with the rate of new lenses etc released by Pentax, then that's your business.

Really?
Why the attitude?

**BigMackCam** · 01-30-2019, 03:47 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

European prices are €1,399 for the HD Pentax-DA★ 11-18mm f/2.8 ED DC AW and €399 for the HD Pentax-FA 35mm f/2.

Seriously?? That's less than the current UK price for the old FA35/2! If the new 35 really is priced like that, I may well be in the queue...

**ffking** · 01-30-2019, 03:52 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Seriously?? That's less than the current UK price for the old FA35/2! If the new 35 really is priced like that, I may well be in the queue...

put a £ sign in front of those numbers and you've gut the UK prices - just checked SRS

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01-30-2019, 03:14 PM	#256
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by pres589 Price seems alright (not a give-away, not crazy high) for the 35. $1400 for the 11-18 seems a bit on the crazy side to me... Looks like my Sigma 8-16 will be my goto APS-c UWA for along time. I was curious, but I'm already set up for APS-c UWA. And I don't find 35mm as focal length all that appealing. My 35s are my least used lenses. Maybe the next announcment will be more to my liking. <cough> 18-35 ƒ4 FF zoom or 20-24mm ff prime </cough>.

01-30-2019, 03:17 PM - 1 Like	#257
Dericali Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Berlin Posts: 298	Originally posted by bobbotron Wow, there's just no pleasing some people. \ Well, I was very pleased with the the DFA50mm. Right now I have a Pentax camera and two lenses that deliver great performance - the new 50, and the DFA 70-200mm. Unfortunately by comparison all the other lenses underperform when it comes to autofocusing and overall control, to the extent that I not use them (unless for specific requirements, e.g. 100mm macro, 15-30mm etc). Now I want more lenses that can perform at this level. As I basically said in my other comment, there are two kinds of pentax users - those that are buying new glass and those that are happy with what they have, or mainly buy second hand. I think that this lens will mainly appeal to the second group, so I hope Pentax haven't sunk a lot of their R&D effort into it. That said, maybe they think it will be a decent seller in Japan, and maybe it was easy for them to do. If you have been pleased with the rate of new lenses etc released by Pentax, then that's your business.

01-30-2019, 03:17 PM	#258
superdave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 228	I expected nice sunstars with the 11-18... But I want one anyway!

01-30-2019, 03:21 PM - 3 Likes	#259
BarneyL Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 898	I wonder how much Pentax bashing will appear tomorrow, after DPR, lenstip etc. publish the news...

01-30-2019, 03:23 PM - 1 Like	#260
wkraus Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Near Vienna, Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,057	Originally posted by ffking Yes - the Pentax 100mm macro is still the same optical design from the 1980s, isn't it? - and that's a very nice lens. While I agree that there are 1980s lenses that perform very fine, what you're saying concerning the 100mm Macro is quite mistaken. The A version from 1985 was a 7-7 construction, the F and FA were 8-9 (identical) and the two DFA versions were still 8-9 but clearly not identical (see Pentax Short Telephoto Prime Lenses \| The K-Mount Page).

01-30-2019, 03:26 PM - 1 Like	#261
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	They're upping their game a bit on sample images - nothing stellar, but some nice ones

01-30-2019, 03:27 PM	#262
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by normhead Looks like my Sigma 8-16 will be my goto APS-c UWA for along time. I was curious, but I'm already set up for APS-c UWA. And I don't find 35mm as focal length all that appealing. My 35s are my least used lenses. Maybe the next announcment will be more to my liking. <cough> 18-35 ƒ4 FF zoom or 20-24mm ff prime </cough>. sigma 8-16 is a beautiful lens. I have mine since 2013 and is definitely part of my top3. With 35 ltd they are very good reasons to stick to APS-C

01-30-2019, 03:32 PM	#263
wkraus Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Near Vienna, Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,057	Originally posted by ogl FA28 iwas not better. 6 apertures blades and softer than F28. So how do you know your copy was good when it wasn't good? The F was optically the same as the not-so-great A28.

01-30-2019, 03:34 PM - 1 Like	#264
taktoon Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 605	If 11-18 is very sharp in the whole frame at f5.6 an f8, "flareless" and I manage to find European price than it will be probably my next buy (wallet just started to run away).

01-30-2019, 03:38 PM - 2 Likes	#265
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by BarneyL I wonder how much Pentax bashing will appear tomorrow, after DPR, lenstip etc. publish the news... Don't worry the usual suspects are getting their scripts written at this moment!

01-30-2019, 03:39 PM	#266
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,421	Canikosonic are releasing their new line up of lenses for their MILC FF cameras, (50s, 35s etc.) since Pentax do not have mirrorless at the moment ... Now it's Pentax's turn. They just want to be relevant, and hopefully continue keeping their base customers from leaving.

01-30-2019, 03:46 PM - 1 Like	#267
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	Originally posted by taktoon If 11-18 is very sharp in the whole frame at f5.6 an f8, "flareless" and I manage to find European price than it will be probably my next buy (wallet just started to run away). European prices are €1,399 for the HD Pentax-DA★ 11-18mm f/2.8 ED DC AW and €399 for the HD Pentax-FA 35mm f/2.

01-30-2019, 03:47 PM - 1 Like	#268
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Dericali If you have been pleased with the rate of new lenses etc released by Pentax, then that's your business. Really? Why the attitude?

01-30-2019, 03:47 PM - 1 Like	#269
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,657	Originally posted by Mistral75 European prices are €1,399 for the HD Pentax-DA★ 11-18mm f/2.8 ED DC AW and €399 for the HD Pentax-FA 35mm f/2. Seriously?? That's less than the current UK price for the old FA35/2! If the new 35 really is priced like that, I may well be in the queue...

01-30-2019, 03:52 PM - 1 Like	#270
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by BigMackCam Seriously?? That's less than the current UK price for the old FA35/2! If the new 35 really is priced like that, I may well be in the queue... put a £ sign in front of those numbers and you've gut the UK prices - just checked SRS

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