Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
07-14-2019, 02:35 AM - 4 Likes   #331
New Member




Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 14
I was tired of waiting for FDA*85mm f1.4 and I used the money for it well. Some days ago I bought a Pentax 645z and a pair of lenses for it (FA 55mm f2.8 and FA 150mm f2.8).


After long consideration it was an easy solution, because I am also shooting with an old Pentax-A 85mm f1.4 (and K-1 II) so far and and I am fully satisfied with this lens.

08-07-2019, 09:03 PM   #332
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,345
For something that was developed, the wait is quite long - with nothing else of similar caliber presented for FF in the meantime.

Pentax: This lens was developed as a "new-generation star lens", which drastically reviewed internal standards in order to respond to future camera performance improvements

What went wrong? Was it developed or not? Bad marketing wording?
08-12-2019, 08:07 AM   #333
New Member




Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 2
wondering if this will be anywhere near the Leica M 75mm Summilux 1.4?
08-12-2019, 09:35 AM - 1 Like   #334
AoCo
Loyal Site Supporter
monochrome's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: St. Louis, MO
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 24,575
QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Sounds like Nikon marketing talk ("Sorry the demand for our $3850 camera model was so high that we had to postpone all deliveries
. . . .
QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
Th adoption of the D850 based on causal observations around the park has been pretty remarkable.
These production under-estimates were not unheard of. I recall Adam posting around the time the D850 was released the pre-order was 50.000 units at just one of the two New York online retailers. Pentax reportedly had to push back K-1 a full year because 645z pre-order was 20,000 units; the initial planned production for the entire run was reportedly only 10,000 units. IIRC planned production of K-1 was 7,000 units a month. It was backordered for months until they caught up.

I was #6 in line for the 50/1.4 and I still had to wait a week longer than a few people here. (Recall Ricoh sold out the pre-release production before the first shipments were made).


Last edited by monochrome; 08-12-2019 at 09:42 AM.
08-12-2019, 10:02 AM   #335
Pentaxian
RonHendriks1966's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 9,612
QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
These production under-estimates were not unheard of. I recall Adam posting around the time the D850 was released the pre-order was 50.000 units at just one of the two New York online retailers. Pentax reportedly had to push back K-1 a full year because 645z pre-order was 20,000 units; the initial planned production for the entire run was reportedly only 10,000 units. IIRC planned production of K-1 was 7,000 units a month. It was backordered for months until they caught up.

I was #6 in line for the 50/1.4 and I still had to wait a week longer than a few people here. (Recall Ricoh sold out the pre-release production before the first shipments were made).
Probably nothing on the internet to find on this claim. It is also simply not true, since 2014 and 2015 did not have a spike in sales for Ricoh-Imaging. So there was no extra ordinair sales of 645Z. It's a mythe, created by superfans.
08-12-2019, 10:27 AM   #336
AoCo
Loyal Site Supporter
monochrome's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: St. Louis, MO
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 24,575
QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Probably nothing on the internet to find on this claim. It is also simply not true, since 2014 and 2015 did not have a spike in sales for Ricoh-Imaging. So there was no extra ordinair sales of 645Z. It's a mythe, created by superfans.
Ron, weve been down this path before. I trust asahi man.
08-12-2019, 10:55 AM   #337
Pentaxian
RonHendriks1966's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 9,612
QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Ron, weve been down this path before. I trust asahi man.
And I trust the CFO of Ricoh.
08-12-2019, 12:31 PM   #338
Pentaxian




Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Romania
Posts: 11,648
I looked at what he said - the "CFO of Ricoh" was just made up (to avoid stronger words which would be entirely appropriate).
Instead, we have an official press release:
"Notice Regarding Delivery Schedule of Medium Format Digital SLR Camera “PENTAX 645Z”
Thank you for your patronage of our products. Regarding the “PENTAX 645Z”
scheduled to be released on June 27, 2014, we have received a reservation that greatly exceeds the initial assumption. It may take some time before delivery.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused to customers waiting for this product."
?RICOH IMAGING

Of course, I can offer no precise numbers except the initial production volume of 400 units per month.

08-12-2019, 02:15 PM   #339
Pentaxian
RonHendriks1966's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 9,612
QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused to customers waiting for this product."
?RICOH IMAGING

Of course, I can offer no precise numbers except the initial production volume of 400 units per month.
So if they had 2.000 pre-orders. .....well that is already 5 months of production and that would be seen as an enourmous number of customers. Now that I can believe.

20.000 645Z orders with lenses is a 200 million USD sale.....you can't hide such a number in the financials of a small company as Ricoh-Imaging.

Maybe someone just misread for one 0 and all is fine.

After the pre-order ofcourse are normal orders coming, since on the internet reviews appear and create interest.
08-12-2019, 04:44 PM   #340
Pentaxian At Large
Loyal Site Supporter
robgski's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 3,201
QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
and five-sided front of prism housing (*)
and gold lettering
and printing on side of prism housing (*)
It goes to 11.
08-13-2019, 12:32 AM   #341
Pentaxian
RonHendriks1966's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 9,612
QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
I looked at what he said - the "CFO of Ricoh" was just made up (to avoid stronger words which would be entirely appropriate).
See the difference between us is that you pick your cherry's from the internet that build on the believes you have. I actually try to check things.

From the financial report of the fiscal year ending 31th march 2015. That would be the year of the introduction and as you believe mass sale of the 645Z.

QuoteQuote:
Other (Sales down 3.2% to 116.9 billion) Sales in the Other segment decreased by 3.2% as compared to the previous corresponding period, to 116.9 billion. Sales decreased in the camera business as compared to the previous corresponding period.
The report:
https://www.ricoh.com/-/Media/Ricoh/Sites/com/IR/financial_data/financial_re...ash_report.pdf
08-13-2019, 02:31 AM   #342
Pentaxian




Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Romania
Posts: 11,648
QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
See the difference between us is that you pick your cherry's from the internet that build on the believes you have. I actually try to check things.

From the financial report of the fiscal year ending 31th march 2015. That would be the year of the introduction and as you believe mass sale of the 645Z.
He tries to check things... like when checking if I'm really Asahiman, or if I'm using more than one account per site?
QuoteQuote:
Kunzite and his army of aliassen.
And I "pick my cherry's" by providing an actual press release stating precisely what I said? His morals are upside down.

We're not stupid - we can see lousy tactics like a strawman. This isn't about the 645Z increasing YoY sales by itself; but available production capacity. I'm not sure if to believe Asahiman's claim, but it is not implausible.
1 Day Ago   #343
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,345
Anniversary day is in November. Enough time to check out the Canon offering in more detail. New 85 design, small footprint and shake reduction. All that used to be Pentax features. Nikon opted for a new 105, the 85s are not that tempting. I dont care about Sigma or cameras without mirror. Its a small world and Pentax could play a role. But that is just my perspective.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
art, body, built-in, camera, da15, discussion, dust, evf, ff, fuji, glass, hood, hoods, imo, insight, lcd, lens, lenses, love, milc, pentax, pentax news, pentax rumors, people, pixie, screen, size, thanks
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
K3,KP,K1 firmware update OoKU Pentax News and Rumors 147 10-20-2018 12:00 AM
Ricoh to Exhibit DFA*50 and DA*11-18 at CP+ OoKU Pentax News and Rumors 84 04-13-2018 01:26 AM
KP vs K-70 - to KP or not to KP, that is the question OldChE Pentax DSLR Discussion 19 02-04-2018 09:43 AM
中国宾友报道,大家好 xiaoliang General Talk 2 03-25-2012 06:52 AM
两部K-r,月内新机,全部出现反光板乱跳问题! anna Pentax DSLR Discussion 3 09-27-2011 11:35 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:01 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top