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10-01-2019, 02:08 PM   #436
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QuoteOriginally posted by TwoUptons Quote
A 24, the 28-105, 70-200f4, 300f4, and a 1.4x would be a really nice FF kit... just sayin’

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I agree with that lineup! Just missing the 24 and 70-200 f4 from my current FF kit. Back in my film days - at least from the mid 70’s on, a 24mm (with first C and then N) was almost always in use as my favored prime. The 15mm limited is close enough, albeit a bit wider, on APSC.

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Some might say that 24,50,85 would be one heck of a kit too, on FF and for aps-c. Albeit a bit heavy side

Throw in 28-105&70-200 and there you go...and actually 15-30 and 10-17 and...
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QuoteOriginally posted by repaap Quote
Some might say that 24,50,85 would be one heck of a kit too, on FF and for aps-c. Albeit a bit heavy side

Throw in 28-105&70-200 and there you go...and actually 15-30 and 10-17 and...
On that note, might as well toss in a 300 f2.8 and a 500 f4. And a 180 macro. And a 35. And a 600 f4, just for kicks.
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Lads and lasses, I said for hiking! My budget does not allow for the 15-30, much less an entourage to carry all those other lenses!

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I would mortgage my house for a DFA 200 to 600 f4.5 - f5.6 The 150-450 is a great lens but sometimes i just nee that lttle extra reach.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Serkevan Quote
A 24mm smallish prime would be awesome for hiking.
There is a really small Sigma 24/2.8 prime. You should be able to get a used copy.
I don't see how any modern 24mm prime will ever be as compact as this one (smaller than an FA 50/1.4).
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QuoteOriginally posted by Sandy Hancock Quote
I did specify "most of the time" - because it's relatively tiny, so I'm more likely to pack it. It is also less intimidating for less experienced models.
So not primarily optical reasons then?

Thanks for sharing the images!
And remember that you are achieving the impossible because you are working with "old, film era lenses that have outdated optical designs and whose screw-drive AF scares all subjects away" as Pentax-detractors will have you believe.

Just judging from what you posted, the FA* 85/1.4 appears to have a more old-school rendering while the FA 77/1.8 looks a bit "cleaner".
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On that note, might as well toss in a 300 f2.8 and a 500 f4. And a 180 macro. And a 35. And a 600 f4, just for kicks.
It should make quite portable little pack for everyday shooting

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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
Just judging from what you posted, the FA* 85/1.4 appears to have a more old-school rendering while the FA 77/1.8 looks a bit "cleaner".
Many of the FA77 shots were made indoors with bounced flash, while the FA*85 shots were mainly outdoors in natural light. That could account for the difference.

I'd say it's a wash between the two.
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Many of the FA77 shots were made indoors with bounced flash, while the FA*85 shots were mainly outdoors in natural light. That could account for the difference.

I'd say it's a wash between the two.
I know it is not FA *85, but I bought Sigma 85 EX(because it was available) and quite soon even if there is little a bit different pop, I replaced it with my FA 77. Sigma has poor AF, that made it more easy change too. But difference is so little, that I'm happy with smaller 77.


Let's see if DFA*85 will have improved AF ,it should. and exellent performance from 1,4, as DFA*50 has. Then it will make me think twise. Still. 77 is really good for what it is, even if it has flaws.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
There is a really small Sigma 24/2.8 prime. You should be able to get a used copy.
I don't see how any modern 24mm prime will ever be as compact as this one (smaller than an FA 50/1.4).
I *know*, I've been eyeing that one a lot, but all the tempting marketplace copies are "Shipping to US only"! (There's one right now for $150, go people).
I was thinking more along the lines of the Limiteds, with the lovely Pentax rendering and build.

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It should make quite portable little pack for everyday shooting
Pack of mules is what you would need XD
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I know it is not FA *85, but I bought Sigma 85 EX(because it was available) and quite soon even if there is little a bit different pop, I replaced it with my FA 77. Sigma has poor AF, that made it more easy change too. But difference is so little, that I'm happy with smaller 77.


Let's see if DFA*85 will have improved AF ,it should. and exellent performance from 1,4, as DFA*50 has. Then it will make me think twise. Still. 77 is really good for what it is, even if it has flaws.
Let's hope the DFA*85 will be excellent nso I might be able to buy an FA85 before I die.😁
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Let's hope the DFA*85 will be excellent nso I might be able to buy an FA85 before I die.��
There is no doubt about it being exellent. Can’t really comment about anyone being able to afford to buy any of items mentioned in one lifetime, but one can dream..
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
Pentaxians tend to distrust 'plastics', and yet even airplanes are made of 'space age materials'. When I was a Canon user I had lenses that seemed to be mostly 'plastic' - even the mount - and yet even though I owned several for ten years or more, I never had one fail on me.
I don't think it is a distrust of the plastics although my experience with the DA 50 f1.8 didn't show it to have a great build. The FA 50 has a metal mount at least and seems to be a bit more sturdy. That said, lack of quick shift on these plastic fantastics makes them not as much fun for shooting.

I doubt Pentax will release on in the 24 mm range either -- at least not till they get their full frame lens line up filled out a little better. There are a fair number of third party lenses that can be used as well as older lenses.
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I don't think it is a distrust of the plastics
Isn't it a distrust of cheap build?
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