The Pentax K1 III might be close

Fcsnt54 · 04-06-2019, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

You can get DSLR like images with your Huawei, the same way Huawei does: use a DSLR then lie about those images being made with the phone.

You have the first part right already

Would using the phone as a remote to the DSLR count as a lie

, I mean it is still shot using the phone.

jimr-pdx · 04-06-2019, 08:47 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by clickclick

It's a quad 24MP folding sensor that delivers an effective 96MP

Drat, I was hoping for one each R,G,B sensor.. can just use a Pink Floyd DSOM prism to bend out each color, right?

reh321 · 04-06-2019, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by clickclick

It's a quad 24MP folding sensor that delivers an effective 96MP

Does that deliver results noticeably better than Pixel Shift on non-moving subjects?

Kunzite · 04-06-2019, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Fcsnt54

Would using the phone as a remote to the DSLR count as a lie

, I mean it is still shot using the phone.

That would be way too honest* - as the phone would be involved somehow

* for Huawei

**NZ_Ross** · 04-06-2019, 01:05 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by rawr

Huawei (or Samsung, again) should get together with Ricoh and do something amazing for the next Pentax DSLR's.

Be very careful what you wish for

I can imagine the huge excitement of the new Pentax camera line paired with Huawei 5G communications - a groundbreaking development in interchangeable lens cameras.

Followed a few hours later by a White House statement banning Huawei equipped cameras from the USA...

**TwoUptons** · 04-06-2019, 01:40 PM - **1 Like**

Since Canon cameras were used by Huawei to do their ads, does that mean Canon cameras need to be banned as well?

-Eric

**clickclick** · 04-06-2019, 02:24 PM

@jimr-pdx and @reh321 - you can either use it conventionally or a variation on the pixel shift where each section of the quad is dedicated to the color channel, and just like in pixel shift, that 4th quad does a double sample on the green.

**NZ_Ross** · 04-06-2019, 02:35 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by TwoUptons

Since Canon cameras were used by Huawei to do their ads, does that mean Canon cameras need to be banned as well?

-Eric

Definitely, sounds dodgy AND a potential security threat

eddie1960 · 04-06-2019, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

That's the K1 II with Accelerator++ and with A.I. educated exposure (when you press the shutter, if the composition doesn't follow the rule of third, the camera won't take the picture)?

i just about sprayed my beer out my nose lolol

rawr · 04-06-2019, 03:18 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by NZ_Ross

Be very careful what you wish for

Point taken.

I guess a fingerprint sensor on the shutter button, or face ID authentication before you can use the camera (managed via a cloud based database somewhere in the USA or China) would also be modern smart-phone like features we really don't need in a camera.

**TwoUptons** · 04-06-2019, 03:40 PM - **1 Like**

I dunno, a fingerprint sensor that switched user preferences based on who was shooting would be pretty cool...

-Eric

**NZ_Ross** · 04-06-2019, 03:46 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by TwoUptons

I dunno, a fingerprint sensor that switched user preferences based on who was shooting would be pretty cool...

-Eric

Until it didn't work fast enough, and required you to enter your password to authenticate, thereby causing you to miss multiple 'decisive moments'

Ross

photoptimist · 04-06-2019, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by jimr-pdx

Drat, I was hoping for one each R,G,B sensor.. can just use a Pink Floyd DSOM prism to bend out each color, right?

Actually, that's what some video cameras did. Those "3-CCD" cameras (Three-CCD camera - Wikipedia) had a beam-splitter that sent the red image one direction, the blue image a different direction, and the green image straight through. Technically, it did not use chromatic dispersion effect shown on the DSOM cover but it did do what you asked.

The result is a true RGB image with all three colors measured at every pixel (like a pixel shift image).

rawr · 04-06-2019, 04:35 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by NZ_Ross

Until it didn't work fast enough, and required you to enter your password to authenticate, thereby causing you to miss multiple 'decisive moments'

Or somehow your fingerprint is refused, killing access to the camera, due to wearing gloves or having dirty or wet hands, or a revoked signing certificate somewhere disabling the fingerprint sensor, or any of 100 other software dependencies failing.

Probably a good idea to keep simple things simple. Let's not invite more problems.

**monochrome** · 04-06-2019, 04:58 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Belnan

Sony has a new high speed 36MP sensor, it would be nice to see the K1 use this one. However I suspect users would demand more resolution.

Release two bodies. High speed and high resolution.

04-06-2019, 08:18 AM	#31
Fcsnt54 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: California Posts: 621	Originally posted by Kunzite You can get DSLR like images with your Huawei, the same way Huawei does: use a DSLR then lie about those images being made with the phone. You have the first part right already Would using the phone as a remote to the DSLR count as a lie, I mean it is still shot using the phone.

04-06-2019, 09:22 AM	#34
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Fcsnt54 Would using the phone as a remote to the DSLR count as a lie, I mean it is still shot using the phone. That would be way too honest* - as the phone would be involved somehow * for Huawei

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04-06-2019, 08:47 AM - 4 Likes	#32
jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	Originally posted by clickclick It's a quad 24MP folding sensor that delivers an effective 96MP Drat, I was hoping for one each R,G,B sensor.. can just use a Pink Floyd DSOM prism to bend out each color, right?

04-06-2019, 08:52 AM	#33
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by clickclick It's a quad 24MP folding sensor that delivers an effective 96MP Does that deliver results noticeably better than Pixel Shift on non-moving subjects?

04-06-2019, 01:05 PM - 1 Like	#35
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	Originally posted by rawr Huawei (or Samsung, again) should get together with Ricoh and do something amazing for the next Pentax DSLR's. Be very careful what you wish for I can imagine the huge excitement of the new Pentax camera line paired with Huawei 5G communications - a groundbreaking development in interchangeable lens cameras. Followed a few hours later by a White House statement banning Huawei equipped cameras from the USA...

04-06-2019, 01:40 PM - 1 Like	#36
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,214	Since Canon cameras were used by Huawei to do their ads, does that mean Canon cameras need to be banned as well? -Eric

04-06-2019, 02:24 PM	#37
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	@jimr-pdx and @reh321 - you can either use it conventionally or a variation on the pixel shift where each section of the quad is dedicated to the color channel, and just like in pixel shift, that 4th quad does a double sample on the green.

04-06-2019, 02:35 PM - 1 Like	#38
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	Originally posted by TwoUptons Since Canon cameras were used by Huawei to do their ads, does that mean Canon cameras need to be banned as well? -Eric Definitely, sounds dodgy AND a potential security threat

04-06-2019, 02:59 PM	#39
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by biz-engineer That's the K1 II with Accelerator++ and with A.I. educated exposure (when you press the shutter, if the composition doesn't follow the rule of third, the camera won't take the picture)? i just about sprayed my beer out my nose lolol

04-06-2019, 03:18 PM - 1 Like	#40
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by NZ_Ross Be very careful what you wish for Point taken. I guess a fingerprint sensor on the shutter button, or face ID authentication before you can use the camera (managed via a cloud based database somewhere in the USA or China) would also be modern smart-phone like features we really don't need in a camera.

04-06-2019, 03:40 PM - 1 Like	#41
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,214	I dunno, a fingerprint sensor that switched user preferences based on who was shooting would be pretty cool... -Eric

04-06-2019, 03:46 PM - 2 Likes	#42
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	Originally posted by TwoUptons I dunno, a fingerprint sensor that switched user preferences based on who was shooting would be pretty cool... -Eric Until it didn't work fast enough, and required you to enter your password to authenticate, thereby causing you to miss multiple 'decisive moments' Ross

04-06-2019, 04:14 PM	#43
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,126	Originally posted by jimr-pdx Drat, I was hoping for one each R,G,B sensor.. can just use a Pink Floyd DSOM prism to bend out each color, right? Actually, that's what some video cameras did. Those "3-CCD" cameras (Three-CCD camera - Wikipedia) had a beam-splitter that sent the red image one direction, the blue image a different direction, and the green image straight through. Technically, it did not use chromatic dispersion effect shown on the DSOM cover but it did do what you asked. The result is a true RGB image with all three colors measured at every pixel (like a pixel shift image).

04-06-2019, 04:35 PM - 2 Likes	#44
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by NZ_Ross Until it didn't work fast enough, and required you to enter your password to authenticate, thereby causing you to miss multiple 'decisive moments' Or somehow your fingerprint is refused, killing access to the camera, due to wearing gloves or having dirty or wet hands, or a revoked signing certificate somewhere disabling the fingerprint sensor, or any of 100 other software dependencies failing. Probably a good idea to keep simple things simple. Let's not invite more problems.

04-06-2019, 04:58 PM - 1 Like	#45
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Belnan Sony has a new high speed 36MP sensor, it would be nice to see the K1 use this one. However I suspect users would demand more resolution. Release two bodies. High speed and high resolution.