New Sony APS-C Sensor - 26MP

dicki · 10-04-2019, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by RobG

I could say the same about the DA*300, but that's why I tend to use the DA55-300PLM and DFA 150-450 these days and my DA*300 is collecting dust.

My DA*300 is quick and faster than the 55-300. Really

ecostigny · 10-04-2019, 02:50 PM

I would certainly like to see a sensor with better auto focus accuracy; something like Eye AF would be a real help photographing candids.

solitudebound · 10-04-2019, 03:04 PM

Is this thread about the Sony IMX571BQR sensor?
It's really the only one in the Sony lists for 26mpix. Although the Q series would be better for astrophotography.

Mistral75 · 10-04-2019, 03:28 PM

Indeed, this thread is about the Sony IMX571 sensor, already used by Fujifilm for their X-T3 and X-T30 cameras (with an X-Trans colour matrix).

https://www.sony-semicon.co.jp/products/common/pdf/IMX571BQR_Flyer.pdf

**Kobie** · 10-04-2019, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by solitudebound

Is this thread about the Sony IMX571BQR sensor?
It's really the only one in the Sony lists for 26mpix. Although the Q series would be better for astrophotography.

Yes, I believe the thread is about the IMX571BQR sensor (26 MP).

fsge · 10-04-2019, 03:34 PM

Is it the one expected in upcoming APSC?

**Kobie** · 10-04-2019, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by fsge

Is it the one expected in upcoming APSC?

Yes, that would be the one

solitudebound · 10-04-2019, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by fsge

Is it the one expected in upcoming APSC?

About two years ago Sony did hint at this sensor for their higher end lines of video cameras and it's not unusual to have a three to five years (or more, after certification) leeway in implementation. The term "new tech" is relative.
I get the impression it will also be in the new Sony 7s## camera whenever that comes into reality.

All this should prove interesting as details progress.

totsmuyco · 10-04-2019, 05:21 PM

I believe the KP currently has best image quality in APSC. If this senso is the one to be used in the new camera, I hope it would be even better than the KP.

RobG · 10-04-2019, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by dicki

My DA*300 is quick and faster than the 55-300. Really

Maybe I have a bad copy, but even when brand new it was slow to focus. It also has a high tendency to hunt, and without focus limiting, that is a huge waste of time.

reh321 · 10-04-2019, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by dicki

My DA*300 is quick and faster than the 55-300. Really

Then it would be a real star with the new sensor, because my 55-300 +1.4X TC certainly is with my KP.

**Kobie** · 10-04-2019, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by dicki

My DA*300 is quick and faster than the 55-300. Really

Since there's 3 55-300's, which one are you talking about?
DA, DA HD, or PLM? And which body?
Just so we know the combo

Fogel70 · 10-04-2019, 09:55 PM - **1 Like**

There are actually 4 versions of the DA 55-300.
Three with screw drive - SMC DA L, SMC DA and HD DA WR. All of them have same optical formula.
One with built in motor - HD DA PLM WR RE. New optical formula designed for PLM motor with much faster AF. It also have retractable barrel design for more compact size.

RobG · 10-05-2019, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by Fogel70

There are actually 4 versions of the DA 55-300.
Three with screw drive - SMC DA L, SMC DA and HD DA WR. All of them have same optical formula.
One with built in motor - HD DA PLM WR RE. New optical formula designed for PLM motor with much faster AF.
It also have retractable barrel design for more compact size.

FWIW I have the SMC DA 55-300 (green band) and the PLM. I can certainly vouch for the PLM version having faster AF, which is why I bought it. The only other lens I have with comparable AF speed is the DFA 150-450. I should perhaps bite the bullet and send the DA*300 for servicing since I don't use it anymore. I'd be curious to see if it came back with faster AF.

fsge · 10-05-2019, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by solitudebound

About two years ago Sony did hint at this sensor for their higher end lines of video cameras and it's not unusual to have a three to five years (or more, after certification) leeway in implementation. The term "new tech" is relative.
I get the impression it will also be in the new Sony 7s## camera whenever that comes into reality.

All this should prove interesting as details progress.

That means video feature would be vastly improved as well!
I only see positive points about this new apsc, I fear price will be steeper than what we all kindof expect

10-04-2019, 04:41 PM	#1163
solitudebound Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 140	Originally posted by fsge Is it the one expected in upcoming APSC? About two years ago Sony did hint at this sensor for their higher end lines of video cameras and it's not unusual to have a three to five years (or more, after certification) leeway in implementation. The term "new tech" is relative. I get the impression it will also be in the new Sony 7s## camera whenever that comes into reality. All this should prove interesting as details progress. Last edited by solitudebound; 10-04-2019 at 04:51 PM.

10-04-2019, 09:55 PM - 1 Like	#1168
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	There are actually 4 versions of the DA 55-300. Three with screw drive - SMC DA L, SMC DA and HD DA WR. All of them have same optical formula. One with built in motor - HD DA PLM WR RE. New optical formula designed for PLM motor with much faster AF. It also have retractable barrel design for more compact size. Last edited by Fogel70; 10-04-2019 at 10:03 PM.

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10-04-2019, 10:18 AM	#1156
dicki Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 180	Originally posted by RobG I could say the same about the DA300, but that's why I tend to use the DA55-300PLM and DFA 150-450 these days and my DA300 is collecting dust. My DA*300 is quick and faster than the 55-300. Really

10-04-2019, 02:50 PM	#1157
ecostigny Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Branford, CT Posts: 561	I would certainly like to see a sensor with better auto focus accuracy; something like Eye AF would be a real help photographing candids.

10-04-2019, 03:04 PM	#1158
solitudebound Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 140	Is this thread about the Sony IMX571BQR sensor? It's really the only one in the Sony lists for 26mpix. Although the Q series would be better for astrophotography.

10-04-2019, 03:28 PM	#1159
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Indeed, this thread is about the Sony IMX571 sensor, already used by Fujifilm for their X-T3 and X-T30 cameras (with an X-Trans colour matrix). https://www.sony-semicon.co.jp/products/common/pdf/IMX571BQR_Flyer.pdf

10-04-2019, 03:28 PM	#1160
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by solitudebound Is this thread about the Sony IMX571BQR sensor? It's really the only one in the Sony lists for 26mpix. Although the Q series would be better for astrophotography. Yes, I believe the thread is about the IMX571BQR sensor (26 MP).

10-04-2019, 03:34 PM	#1161
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Is it the one expected in upcoming APSC?

10-04-2019, 03:34 PM	#1162
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by fsge Is it the one expected in upcoming APSC? Yes, that would be the one

10-04-2019, 05:21 PM	#1164
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	I believe the KP currently has best image quality in APSC. If this senso is the one to be used in the new camera, I hope it would be even better than the KP.

10-04-2019, 07:56 PM	#1165
RobG Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canberra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,888	Originally posted by dicki My DA*300 is quick and faster than the 55-300. Really Maybe I have a bad copy, but even when brand new it was slow to focus. It also has a high tendency to hunt, and without focus limiting, that is a huge waste of time.

10-04-2019, 08:03 PM	#1166
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by dicki My DA*300 is quick and faster than the 55-300. Really Then it would be a real star with the new sensor, because my 55-300 +1.4X TC certainly is with my KP.

10-04-2019, 08:26 PM	#1167
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by dicki My DA*300 is quick and faster than the 55-300. Really Since there's 3 55-300's, which one are you talking about? DA, DA HD, or PLM? And which body? Just so we know the combo

10-05-2019, 12:25 AM	#1169
RobG Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canberra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,888	Originally posted by Fogel70 There are actually 4 versions of the DA 55-300. Three with screw drive - SMC DA L, SMC DA and HD DA WR. All of them have same optical formula. One with built in motor - HD DA PLM WR RE. New optical formula designed for PLM motor with much faster AF. It also have retractable barrel design for more compact size. FWIW I have the SMC DA 55-300 (green band) and the PLM. I can certainly vouch for the PLM version having faster AF, which is why I bought it. The only other lens I have with comparable AF speed is the DFA 150-450. I should perhaps bite the bullet and send the DA*300 for servicing since I don't use it anymore. I'd be curious to see if it came back with faster AF.

10-05-2019, 01:11 AM	#1170
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by solitudebound About two years ago Sony did hint at this sensor for their higher end lines of video cameras and it's not unusual to have a three to five years (or more, after certification) leeway in implementation. The term "new tech" is relative. I get the impression it will also be in the new Sony 7s## camera whenever that comes into reality. All this should prove interesting as details progress. That means video feature would be vastly improved as well! I only see positive points about this new apsc, I fear price will be steeper than what we all kindof expect