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06-17-2019, 06:24 PM - 2 Likes   #166
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It will have a revolutionary Hybrid viewfinder that actually does show WYSIWYG including 23 stops of DR, true DoF preview, no flicker, awesome refresh rate, best tracking AF ever on a camera, eye AF, 50 lens auto AF adjust, broadcast quality video, 20 FPS mechanical shutter, UHS-lll, and an effectively unlimited buffer - and DPR will give it an 88 Silver because “they must be baking the RAW’s”.
According to yet another newer patent filing.... Some of what you said may actually happen, especially if you combine both the switchable AF and Hybrid Viewfinder.
I really hope this is why they've been so secretive...



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QuoteOriginally posted by Kobie Quote
According to yet another newer patent filing.... Some of what you said may actually happen, especially if you combine both the switchable AF and Hybrid Viewfinder.
I really hope this is why they've been so secretive...

State of Pentax Pt 2. Switchable contrast and phase autofocus - YouTube
Switchable AF would be very cool indeed. Does make sense in context of a hybrid finder.
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I really hope this is why they've been so secretive...
Good work Kobie. Hope Pentax turns your speculations into product this year!

I wonder how this new Pentax viewfinder system will differ from the hybrid EVF/OVF of the Fujifilm X100 series? Looks very similar.
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It's all relative, are you talking K-1 for FF. D850 body only $4000 CAD
K-1 mkII $2500 body only.

K-P $1200 body only.

K-3 replacement at $1500-$1700 or roughly $1400 USD should be doable.

Development for new components is irrelevant, every camera has development costs for new components.
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Don't forget that for sport cameras(*) the price is a function of the frame rate: roughly 100 USD per FPS => 8 FPS = 800 USD, now if the camera boast 16 FPS it's going to cost around $1600 I'm afraid.

(*) for landscape cameras, Fuji price = 100 USD / Mpixels. BTW Pentax K1 Mega pixel is a lot cheaper.
I didn't see that Norm asked for much more fps than the K-3 already provides.
Since mechanics limits how fast the mirror can flip, MILC would be needed to reach beyond some fps, and we know Norm doesn't want that.

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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
I didn't see that Norm asked for much more fps than the K-3 already provides.
Since mechanics limits how fast the mirror can flip, MILC would be needed to reach beyond some fps, and we know Norm doesn't want that.
Ya, 10 FPS might be nice. There should be a 10 fps shutter, for the same price as an 8 fps shutter 6 years ago you would think. Or did i miss on the number?

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That's insulting to us nerds
Sorry nerds, I got carried away.

I'm not against nerd-ism, lots of my friends are nerds.

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I didn't see that Norm asked for much more fps than the K-3 already provides.
Since mechanics limits how fast the mirror can flip, MILC would be needed to reach beyond some fps, and we know Norm doesn't want that.
The K-3 isn't anywhere near the mechanical limits for high FPS motion. There are FF DSLRs that go up to 16 FPS and an APS-C mirror weighs less than half as much and probably takes about 1/3 the power to flip.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kobie Quote
According to yet another newer patent filing.... Some of what you said may actually happen, especially if you combine both the switchable AF and Hybrid Viewfinder.
I really hope this is why they've been so secretive...

State of Pentax Pt 2. Switchable contrast and phase autofocus - YouTube
It was intentional hyperbole, but based on my contention that the coming APSc flagship is delayed because it will replace the entire K-7/K-5/K-3 platform; there will be a leap forward in sone kind of technology; and the core technology will matriculate to 645 and FF. I would not be surprised to see 645 drop first, then APSc, then FF, plus a lot of lenses.

Bear in mind, I know nothing and have no internal contacts.

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The K-3 isn't anywhere near the mechanical limits for high FPS motion. There are FF DSLRs that go up to 16 FPS and an APS-C mirror weighs less than half as much and probably takes about 1/3 the power to flip.
Good point. Runaway shutter confirms this, it runs away at what? 20 FPS? Seemed to be that fast anyway lol.
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Wasn't Mamiya ZD first affordable MF dslr?
It was $22,000 at release. The 645D was $9,500...
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especially if you combine both the switchable AF and Hybrid Viewfinder
IMO adding more hardware pieces is too complicated. I'd prefer having a camera will same as current hardware but better firmware.
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It was $22,000 at release. The 645D was $9,500...
Mamiya ZD Digital SLR - What Digital Camera

"After months of speculation Mamiya has finally released availability details of its first medium format digital SLR. Originally announced at 2004?s Photokina show, the 22 megapixel Mamiya ZD is now available through authorised Mamiya retailers, priced £7000 plus VAT for a body only package."

Was 7000 GBP worth 22k USD back then?
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QuoteOriginally posted by BarneyL Quote
Mamiya ZD Digital SLR - What Digital Camera

"After months of speculation Mamiya has finally released availability details of its first medium format digital SLR. Originally announced at 2004?s Photokina show, the 22 megapixel Mamiya ZD is now available through authorised Mamiya retailers, priced £7000 plus VAT for a body only package."

Was 7000 GBP worth 22k USD back then?
It obviously translated/converted to "nicely below 15000 $"*, which is 50% more as the 645D which was below the magic 10k$.
The Mamiya ZD Saga - Luminous Landscape
*IIRC, I can't access the article a second time
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kobie Quote
According to yet another newer patent filing.... Some of what you said may actually happen, especially if you combine both the switchable AF and Hybrid Viewfinder.
I really hope this is why they've been so secretive...

State of Pentax Pt 2. Switchable contrast and phase autofocus - YouTube
I would take that video with a huge spoon of salt. But then I can't - that would raise my blood pressure
One shouldn't draw conclusions from patents the way that guy is doing. Patents don't give up things like the number of autofocus points in a future camera.
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QuoteOriginally posted by BarneyL Quote
Mamiya ZD Digital SLR - What Digital Camera

"After months of speculation Mamiya has finally released availability details of its first medium format digital SLR. Originally announced at 2004?s Photokina show, the 22 megapixel Mamiya ZD is now available through authorised Mamiya retailers, priced £7000 plus VAT for a body only package."

Was 7000 GBP worth 22k USD back then?
Mamiya was selling the ZD back in 2007 for $10,000 bundled with the 645AFD body and the 80mm lens. But the 3 year delay between announcing the ZD back (2004) and actually shipping it meant that it was already hopelessly outdated (1.8 inch LCD and poor ISO performance over ISO 100). (The ZD camera launched a year earlier. DPReview says it was £7000, AFAIK it wasn't available in the US)

You could buy 2 Nikon D3s for $10,000 in 2007...And the 24MP D3x was launched in 2008 for $8000.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kobie Quote
According to yet another newer patent filing.... Some of what you said may actually happen, especially if you combine both the switchable AF and Hybrid Viewfinder.
I really hope this is why they've been so secretive...

State of Pentax Pt 2. Switchable contrast and phase autofocus - YouTube
Thank you, this look promising
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