[RonHendriks1966]

Well this thread as many is running on thin air when it comes to grounds for discussing anything upcoming. Someone rumored something to a rumor site.....

[biz-engineer]

Well this thread as many is running on thin air when it comes to grounds for discussing anything upcoming. Someone rumored something to a rumor site.....

There is usually more talk and purchase intentions before a product is officially released, a lot less talk and less buying decisions after the release. When people realize they have to spend the money, some of them don't go past the purchase decision. Internet forums can a good resource for students at business schools who study customer behavior.

[TwoUptons]

When the product is released, a number of people don't put the money on they words.

This is a characteristic of the internet not exclusive to Pentax

-Eric

[biz-engineer]

This is a characteristic of the internet not exclusive to Pentax

Yes, that's correct. As long as we don't have to spend any money, we want everything that competitors are doing. When come the time to pay, expectations drop quickly.

[swanlefitte]

When you don't know the possibilities are endless and so are the threads. When we find out, there is only one thing to talk about.

[BROO]

By all accounts part of the issue with this thread is that people are mixing two things up. First there is an APS-C camera coming (with a 26 megapixel sensor?) that is going to have high frame rate, better auto focus than current cameras and probably just overall speedier operation than in the past. OoKU says D500 level operation -- I doubt quite that level, but certainly better than current generation APS-C Pentax cameras.

If the sensor is the same as the one Fujifilm are using in the X-T3 then it is reasonable to expect Ricoh to bring forth a camera with similar capabilities? The X-T3 is an incredible camera and I think we should be excited to be able to purchase an ASP-C DSLR with similar performance capabilities. I don't see any reason for Ricoh to cripple the sensor to produce some kind of mere K-3 upgrade. I would think the camera would rival the X-T3, Canon D7 mk II and potentially Nikon D500.

A Pentax D500 with 26 Mp would work well with the D FA 150-450 and DA 560 lens combination for wildlife shooters. You could argue that the high pixel density of a 26 Mp v 20 Mp would make the Pentax flagship a superior setup?

Also I noticed some popularity of Birding on my recent trip to Japan. Maybe there is a a marketing opportunity here that we can't see?

[sundown]

How can it be the same sensor though? One is X-trans and Pentax uses Bayer.

[RonHendriks1966]

A Pentax D500 with 26 Mp would work well with the D FA 150-450 and DA 560 lens combination for wildlife shooters.

Those are probably the two lenses of the current lineup that are not in many hands. The da560 is a rare lens that did not sold in many copy's, how many a few hundred or so? For the dfa 150-450 a bit more, but maybe a few thousands?

[Mistral75]

How can it be the same sensor though? One is X-trans and Pentax uses Bayer.

The Bayer / X-Trans array is added in front of the sensor itself, together with the IR/UV filter and the anti-aliasing filter, if any.

[Pål Jensen]

Those are probably the two lenses of the current lineup that are not in many hands. The da560 is a rare lens that did not sold in many copy's, how many a few hundred or so? For the dfa 150-450 a bit more, but maybe a few thousands?

Yep. Pentax made 400 units of the DA 560mm

[clackers]

Rumour going round now that Nikon are abandoning the D500, there won't be a successor.

I've no idea of its implications to the other camera manufacturers.

Perhaps as an APS-C product sold at FF prices it was a dud.

[Mistral75]

Rumour is also going round that there will be a common successor to Canon EOS 80D and 7D Mark II, rather a 90D than a 7D Mark III.

[Serkevan]

Rumour going round now that Nikon are abandoning the D500, there won't be a successor.

I've no idea of its implications to the other camera manufacturers.

Perhaps as an APS-C product sold at FF prices it was a dud.

The Canon 7D was like 200€ cheaper than the 6D, right?

I guess extrapolation means the Olympus OM-D EM1X camera is absolute nonsense (honestly, 3k for a behemoth housing a tiny sensor?)

[redpit]

Since Canon has made it clear that is totally focusing on mirrorless system and Nikon more or less will follow (I haven't heard anything about D500 succesor or not that @clackers mentioned) it is a good opportunity for Ricoh/Pentax to come up with a great APS-C DSLR model. By offering a fast and capable camera closing the gap with the D500 in terms of speed and AF-C performance and differentiating in terms like better IQ (is already there in the KP, plus the pixel shift function), maybe sensor size (for example 26Mb vs ~20 is quite a difference) and an even larger/brighter pentaprism Pentax can claim to offer the best APS-C DSLR in the market and that may stay for long if the others ignore the APS-C DSLR market while Pentax continues to invest on it...

[MetalUndivided]

By offering a fast and capable camera closing the gap with the D500 in terms of speed and AF-C performance and differentiating in terms like better IQ (is already there in the KP, plus the pixel shift function), maybe sensor size (for example 26Mb vs ~20 is quite a difference) and an even larger/brighter pentaprism Pentax can claim to offer the best APS-C DSLR in the market and that may stay for long if the others ignore the APS-C DSLR market while Pentax continues to invest on it...

The D500 was primarily popular amongst wildlife shooters, afaik, something Pentax isn't very good at due to a number of reasons. I also don't think that people sitting on F glass would switch systems, not to mention many (most?) wouldn't even know of Pentax releasing a new camera.