[Rondec]

You can't get away from the fact that you need 50% longer lenses on FF than for APS for the same angle of view. When you see the ridiculous size of FF lenses that actually take the advantage of the larger sensor (1kg for a 50mm lens!), it is obvious that a smaller format is needed.

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Thats not surprising. Hardly anyone buys such entry level cameras anymore.

I don't think it is quite that bad. Or at least not at the 50mm angle of view. There are plenty of small 50-ish mm lenses that cover full frame sensors/film. The FA 50, FA 43, and DA *55 all do a pretty good job and none of them is a huge lens. The recent DFA *50 is so big because it was created to be sharp at extremely wide apertures -- not something that most photographers probably need. If you don't need that level of border sharpness at f1.4 the FA limiteds give very nice performance on full frame cameras without being huge.

(I do think what you say is correct for telephoto situations. I just don't shoot much with lenses that are longer than 100mm on my K-1).

[Mistral75]

TV I don't think so.
'Sony' TVs aren't own by Sony anymore.

Televisions | Smart TVs, 4K and Flat Screen LED TVs | Sony US

[Zygonyx]

I can see why manufacturers might ditch aspc for a FF lineup. Most never cared to develop their apsc glass in the first place. With mirrorless the size of the camera body is no longer driven by sensor size. You can develop a line of cameras where body size/ergonomics and features differentiate rather than sensor size. The glass can be designed to sacrifice performance for size if people want compact gear. Just as with mirrorless in the first place a move from apsc might well be manufacturer rather than consumer driven. Simplified architecture, manufacture and systems across product lines?

And higher margins, yes.

[SteveinSLC]

I don't understand this constant concern about the KP's size. It is larger and more massive than the Super Program I used in the Age of Film. Today's lenses are less massive, so the two-handed approach we all were taught back then works just as well as it ever did.

Personal preference for particular ergonomics I guess. What you say about the size of film bodies is true, people obviously managed to use them just fine. But that doesn't mean that the ergonomics couldn't necessarily be better, again at least for some people.
I have both a K-1 and a KP. There's no question that the K-1 feels better to hold for me for a longer longer period of time, despite being heavier.
I do have big hands, so maybe that's part of it.
Plus having a larger grip means space for a bigger battery. That would mean not only more shots for the KP, but I could use the same batteries in both cameras.

[thibs]

Televisions | Smart TVs, 4K and Flat Screen LED TVs | Sony US

Indeed. I was misinformed. Or I mixed things up with the VAIO sale which indeed as nothing to do with Sony anymore (Sony still has 5% of VAIO if it really has any meaning anymore).

[RGlasel]

I mixed things up with the VAIO sale which indeed as nothing to do with Sony anymore

I think some of the confusion comes from Sony buying OLED TV panels from LG and hasn't manufactured LCD panels for a while. Is a Pentax DSLR still a Pentax if the sensor is manufactured by Sony?

[Mistral75]

(...) Is a Pentax DSLR still a Pentax if the sensor is manufactured by Sony?

If it weren't, there wouldn't have been any Pentax DSLR ever. Nor any Pentax camera since 1957 for that matter -Asahi Optical never manufactured film cartridges.

[reh321]

I think some of the confusion comes from Sony buying OLED TV panels from LG and hasn't manufactured LCD panels for a while. Is a Pentax DSLR still a Pentax if the sensor is manufactured by Sony?

It is Pentax if it has the words "Pentax" on the camera.

[biz-engineer]

Is a Pentax DSLR still a Pentax if the sensor is manufactured by Sony?

It is still a Pentax camera if you can sand it, shower it , and take pictures after the shower. Also, by definition, even after a Pentax camera doesn't take pictures anymore you can still use it as a paper press or as a hammer.
And if you can see clearly through the viewfinder without artifact, rolling effect and lag, chances are it's a Pentax.

[Serkevan]

If it's a 645 you can make a weatherproof bird nest as well.

[reh321]

It is still a Pentax camera if you can sand it, shower it , and take pictures after the shower. Also, by definition, even after a Pentax camera doesn't take pictures anymore you can still use it as a paper press or as a hammer.
And if you can see clearly through the viewfinder without artifact, rolling effect and lag, chances are it's a Pentax.

My Q-7 doesn't pass your tests - but it clearly is a Pentax - it takes good photos!!

[biz-engineer]

My Q-7 doesn't pass your tests - but it clearly is a Pentax - it takes good photos!!

Ah yes, you are right, it's what we call the exception that confirms the rule.

[Erictator]

Man, you know you're in trouble when even the rumors are far and few. (Queue the trademarked Pentax is Doomed logo)

This sub forum needs a moral boost... we've picked all the meat off this rumors bones... time for something new!
Eric

[RonHendriks1966]

I think some of the confusion comes from Sony buying OLED TV panels from LG and hasn't manufactured LCD panels for a while. Is a Pentax DSLR still a Pentax if the sensor is manufactured by Sony?

Are there any parts inside K-1ii, KP or K-70 that Ricoh-Imaging makes themselves?

[CNunez]

More megapixels :/