Sigma stops K-Mount support

Mistral75 · 10-04-2019, 07:18 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

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For example, what I'd want now is a relatively compact, high quality ultra wide. Sigma has a big fat zoom (and some old consumer lenses); thanks but no, thanks.

In which category would you put the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 DG HSM | Art (2017), 20mm f/1.8 DG HSM | Art (2015) and 24mm f/1.8 DG HSM | Art (2015)? 'Big fat zooms' or 'old consumer lenses'?

Kunzite · 10-04-2019, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

In which category would you put the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 DG HSM | Art (2017), 20mm f/1.8 DG HSM | Art (2015) and 24mm f/1.8 DG HSM | Art (2015)? 'Big fat zooms' or 'old consumer lenses'?

I stand corrected; those are indeed big fat primes.

Mistral75 · 10-04-2019, 07:45 AM - **1 Like**

Just wait for the disclosure of the size of the roadmapped Ultra Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens and Large Aperture Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens (the latter a ★ lens).

Same cause, same effect...

**Mbaez** · 10-04-2019, 08:37 AM

In my case if Sigma would've released their FF Art primes for Pentax I would certainly have a K1.

Kunzite · 10-04-2019, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Just wait for the disclosure of the size of the roadmapped Ultra Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens and Large Aperture Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens (the latter a ★ lens).

Same cause, same effect...

I'm more tempted by the ultra wide-angle, and I hope it will be reasonably compact (it's not a "large aperture" lens). Otherwise I'd have the 15-30.

But let me put it this way: if I have to pay quite a lot on a high-end lens, and my choices were Pentax and Sigma, I'd rather have the Pentax. Say, the 50mm Art vs D FA* 50mm f/1.4.

y0chang · 10-04-2019, 10:06 AM - **1 Like**

Pentax has nothing less than 31mm in primes and nothing over 77mm to 200mm except a 100 macro. There is nothing in that range even with recent third party options unless you are willing to go with manual focus lenses. Otherwise you are trying to find unicorns like the FA 20 24mm or 85mm.

**mlt** · 10-04-2019, 10:24 AM

F2.8 Primes in the 105, 135, and 180mm ranges used to be the standard purchase - quality zooms coupled with increased sensor sensitivity seem to have severely limited buyers need for these. Would be interesting to see actual sales figures/requests for purchase graphed over the last 10 years.

MikeyBugs95 · 10-04-2019, 05:55 PM

So I just read that while Sigma drops K-mount, they added lenses to Canon M-mount. Are there really more M-mount cameras than all of K-mount?

**Mbaez** · 10-04-2019, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by MikeyBugs95

So I just read that while Sigma drops K-mount, they added lenses to Canon M-mount. Are there really more M-mount cameras than all of K-mount?

I think so, at least in NYC I've been a lot more, and almost never a Pentax.

totsmuyco · 10-04-2019, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by MikeyBugs95

So I just read that while Sigma drops K-mount, they added lenses to Canon M-mount. Are there really more M-mount cameras than all of K-mount?

Yes. And I believe they're looking at more future sales due to the mirrorless craze.

**Serkevan** · 10-05-2019, 01:25 PM

The Canon M50 is the most sold MILC in Japan, so yes.

**Rondec** · 10-05-2019, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by y0chang

Pentax has nothing less than 31mm in primes and nothing over 77mm to 200mm except a 100 macro. There is nothing in that range even with recent third party options unless you are willing to go with manual focus lenses. Otherwise you are trying to find unicorns like the FA 20 24mm or 85mm.

I don't know that they are unicorns. You can find FA 20s and FA 135s on ebay all of the time. They just aren't "cheap." But I don't know that any new DFA 20 f2.8 from Pentax is going to be under 450 (the going price for the FA 20s apparently).

I bought an FA 135 for 350 and am pretty pleased with it. I know it isn't ideal to have to buy used lenses, but with Pentax's history, there are actually a lot of them out there and they do fill in the gaps decently.

xmeda · 10-05-2019, 01:45 PM

55-300 + 1.4TC..

hmm..

hm...

heh...

MikeyBugs95 · 10-05-2019, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by xmeda

55-300 + 1.4TC..

hmm..

hm...

heh...

So that's a 1.7+1.7x+1.5x+1.4x? So assuming that the 50-500 is zoomed all the way out to 500, that's a 3034mm ... F... 38?

For when you really want to see what that man's T-shirt is saying waayyyyyyyy over in the next state.

Mistral75 · 10-05-2019, 02:13 PM

Do you see anything in the viewfinder with this combination or is it completely black?

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10-04-2019, 07:18 AM - 3 Likes	#166
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Kunzite (...) For example, what I'd want now is a relatively compact, high quality ultra wide. Sigma has a big fat zoom (and some old consumer lenses); thanks but no, thanks. In which category would you put the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 DG HSM \| Art (2017), 20mm f/1.8 DG HSM \| Art (2015) and 24mm f/1.8 DG HSM \| Art (2015)? 'Big fat zooms' or 'old consumer lenses'?

10-04-2019, 07:38 AM	#167
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Mistral75 In which category would you put the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 DG HSM \| Art (2017), 20mm f/1.8 DG HSM \| Art (2015) and 24mm f/1.8 DG HSM \| Art (2015)? 'Big fat zooms' or 'old consumer lenses'? I stand corrected; those are indeed big fat primes.

10-04-2019, 07:45 AM - 1 Like	#168
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Just wait for the disclosure of the size of the roadmapped Ultra Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens and Large Aperture Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens (the latter a ★ lens). Same cause, same effect...

10-04-2019, 08:37 AM	#169
Mbaez Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: NY Photos: Albums Posts: 3,774	In my case if Sigma would've released their FF Art primes for Pentax I would certainly have a K1.

10-04-2019, 08:58 AM	#170
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Mistral75 Just wait for the disclosure of the size of the roadmapped Ultra Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens and Large Aperture Wide-Angle Single Focus Lens (the latter a ★ lens). Same cause, same effect... I'm more tempted by the ultra wide-angle, and I hope it will be reasonably compact (it's not a "large aperture" lens). Otherwise I'd have the 15-30. But let me put it this way: if I have to pay quite a lot on a high-end lens, and my choices were Pentax and Sigma, I'd rather have the Pentax. Say, the 50mm Art vs D FA* 50mm f/1.4.

10-04-2019, 10:06 AM - 1 Like	#171
y0chang Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: United States Posts: 793	Pentax has nothing less than 31mm in primes and nothing over 77mm to 200mm except a 100 macro. There is nothing in that range even with recent third party options unless you are willing to go with manual focus lenses. Otherwise you are trying to find unicorns like the FA 20 24mm or 85mm.

10-04-2019, 10:24 AM	#172
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	F2.8 Primes in the 105, 135, and 180mm ranges used to be the standard purchase - quality zooms coupled with increased sensor sensitivity seem to have severely limited buyers need for these. Would be interesting to see actual sales figures/requests for purchase graphed over the last 10 years.

10-04-2019, 05:55 PM	#173
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	So I just read that while Sigma drops K-mount, they added lenses to Canon M-mount. Are there really more M-mount cameras than all of K-mount?

10-04-2019, 07:36 PM	#174
Mbaez Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: NY Photos: Albums Posts: 3,774	Originally posted by MikeyBugs95 So I just read that while Sigma drops K-mount, they added lenses to Canon M-mount. Are there really more M-mount cameras than all of K-mount? I think so, at least in NYC I've been a lot more, and almost never a Pentax.

10-04-2019, 08:41 PM	#175
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by MikeyBugs95 So I just read that while Sigma drops K-mount, they added lenses to Canon M-mount. Are there really more M-mount cameras than all of K-mount? Yes. And I believe they're looking at more future sales due to the mirrorless craze.

10-05-2019, 01:25 PM	#176
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	The Canon M50 is the most sold MILC in Japan, so yes.

10-05-2019, 01:31 PM	#177
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by y0chang Pentax has nothing less than 31mm in primes and nothing over 77mm to 200mm except a 100 macro. There is nothing in that range even with recent third party options unless you are willing to go with manual focus lenses. Otherwise you are trying to find unicorns like the FA 20 24mm or 85mm. I don't know that they are unicorns. You can find FA 20s and FA 135s on ebay all of the time. They just aren't "cheap." But I don't know that any new DFA 20 f2.8 from Pentax is going to be under 450 (the going price for the FA 20s apparently). I bought an FA 135 for 350 and am pretty pleased with it. I know it isn't ideal to have to buy used lenses, but with Pentax's history, there are actually a lot of them out there and they do fill in the gaps decently.

10-05-2019, 01:45 PM	#178
xmeda Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brno Posts: 295	55-300 + 1.4TC.. hmm.. hm... heh...

10-05-2019, 02:11 PM	#179
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Originally posted by xmeda 55-300 + 1.4TC.. hmm.. hm... heh... So that's a 1.7+1.7x+1.5x+1.4x? So assuming that the 50-500 is zoomed all the way out to 500, that's a 3034mm ... F... 38? For when you really want to see what that man's T-shirt is saying waayyyyyyyy over in the next state.

10-05-2019, 02:13 PM	#180
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Do you see anything in the viewfinder with this combination or is it completely black?