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09-12-2019, 10:35 AM   #106
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
Right; they haven't stopped - they just slowed down to Pentax' pace
Yeh, Pentax's pace from about 3 years ago

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I donít think so
Canon will be go both way same speed
More expensive MiLS for pro before Olympic game
May both mid price to DLStR and Pro
Plus more lenses
Canon has a lot money
Only surprise me how Sigma want customer buy new lenses 1.8 trio. They all very expensive more close with price original group as Sony or canon
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Meh...

They lost me 25 years ago when they were 'taping' in the front elements of their 300 F2.8s...

And, by way of logic, K Mount has now officially stopped all Sigma support.

While I don't mourn the loss of their lenses, it IS a bad sign for Pentax, and a wake-up call to get their marketing together.


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QuoteOriginally posted by Trickortreat Quote
Yeh, Pentax's pace from about 3 years ago
Hmm...
Canon: 2 DSLRs this year, one not interesting at all, the other not the 7d MkII replacement people were looking for. No DSLR lenses.
Nikon: no DSLR and no DSLR lens this year (won't count pre-announcements).

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I have Sigma's 17-50mm EX f2.8, 18-50mm EX f2.8, 10-20mm EX f4-5.6 and 17-70mm f2.8-4 OS and they're all great lenses which do exactly what I want and expect of them. I also have an old 170-500mm APO from the film era which works well for me. It's sad that they've not released any lenses for our beloved K-mount for some years now, but it's a sign of the times. Sigma desires volume and the L-mount alliance has taken their business in a new direction.

I'll continue to use and enjoy my Sigma glass alongside my superb DA Limiteds, DA* 50-135mm f2.8 and DA* 60-250mm f4.
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I suspect Canon and Nikon will orphan their EF and F mounts.

Their role model? Sony, which continued to release A mount products that were already in the pipeline (like the A99 II) but essentially killed the whole platform.

Canon already did that once to their fans with the FD mount but this is new territory for Nikon.

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The new Nikkor makes me believe it won't happen anytime soon.
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Sigma here feels like Pentax in the respect that they have resources to do one or two things at a time. Their camera projects are going to soak up most of the energy that they want to put towards anything new. Whether those efforts are well received is too soon to know.

I would just say that while there is an official statement on the subject, it is not anything new. As far as I know, the last Sigma lens released in K mount was the 18-35 f1.8 which came out in late 2013 or early 2014. Every time there has been an update, Sigma has not released it in the K mount since then and lenses like the 85mm f1.4 have gone away. You can still find used versions of them and they will still work fine. But I don't think this changes anything for us.

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In a moment of optimism, I wonder - 5 years from now, how many Sigma lenses would still make sense for us to buy?
Already, there's the D FA* 50mm f/1.4 - why getting the 50mm 1.4 Art, or the 40mm f/1.4 Art? The upcoming 85mm might tell the same story.
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QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
Canon already did that once to their fans with the FD mount but this is new territory for Nikon.
To be fair, the change from FD to EF was *massive*, far more so than EF to RF. I can imagine that in 1987 (that was a bunch of years before I happened to be born) releasing a fully electromagnetic system would have been nothing short of a show of force. Nowadays, releasing the RF system is...Eh. Cool I guess?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
The new Nikkor makes me believe it won't happen anytime soon.
Which new Nikkor, Kunzite?

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QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
I suspect Canon and Nikon will orphan their EF and F mounts.

Their role model? Sony, which continued to release A mount products that were already in the pipeline (like the A99 II) but essentially killed the whole platform.

Canon already did that once to their fans with the FD mount but this is new territory for Nikon.
I think Sony nothing did with A mount it was 100% Minolta great camera
They use Minolta idea and drop start eAdventure
It’s why e mount and body much worse ergonomic vs Minolta body
Canon to smart to kill EF because create a lot money for Canon
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Which new Nikkor, Kunzite?
Didn't they announce a 120-300/2.8 for the D6? I guess it's that one.
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Which new Nikkor, Kunzite?
The AF-S Nikkor 120-300mm f/2.8E FL ED SR VR I presume, the development of which was announced eight days ago.

Nikon working on 120-300mm F2.8E full-frame tele-zoom lens: Digital Photography Review
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QuoteOriginally posted by Serkevan Quote
To be fair, the change from FD to EF was *massive*, far more so than EF to RF. I can imagine that in 1987 (that was a bunch of years before I happened to be born) releasing a fully electromagnetic system would have been nothing short of a show of force. Nowadays, releasing the RF system is...Eh. Cool I guess?
The K mount and F mounts have migrated to all-electronic focus and aperture control without problem, so the real reason was for Canon to make more money by introducing a new platform.

So we're seeing that again, now.

It was rumoured that Canon have suspended EF designs for at least twelve months so the company can get behind the R mount.

If their sales continue to plunge as they have, that'll become their strategy - put up the white flag in trying to win new customers, squeeze their existing ones!

I'd be ropeable if I was a loyal Canon owner. (I do own several EF lenses that I buy to shoot on Sony - guess I win with their reduced market value, I can buy more).

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