"Ricoh/Pentax has no plans to announce a new camera this fall"

Kunzite · 09-13-2019, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by guinnessman

Didn't Hoya already strip the valuable bits (the medical side)?

I'm honestly a bit confused by their strategy.

"Valuable bits (the medical side)"? So in your opinion, Pentax Imaging is not valuable?

IMO they might work on completely new cameras - they did that with the GR III, might do the same with Pentax. Changing the processor family and OS, changing everything else - stuff like that.
Unless we'll have a very quiet CP+, I see no reason to get worried.

The Squirrel Mafia · 09-13-2019, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by Adam

In that case we will definitely get a new camera in the 11 days left of summer, and 10 days of winter, in 2019

Hahaha!

November 27 will reveal the status of Pentax. We probably won't hear anything about Pentax around then either. Hahaha!

normhead · 09-13-2019, 06:55 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kunzite

"Valuable bits (the medical side)"? So in your opinion, Pentax Imaging is not valuable?

IMO they might work on completely new cameras - they did that with the GR III, might do the same with Pentax. Changing the processor family and OS, changing everything else - stuff like that.
Unless we'll have a very quiet CP+, I see no reason to get worried.

There must be new processors AF units etc. available. People complain is it's just a tweak upgrade like the K-3ii and K-1ii then they complain if it takes longer than a tweak. People just complain.

The big question... what's your rush?
These are completely arbitrary attention seeking arguments. You can never question someone's arbitrary decision, it will never make sense to anyone not in the same emotional state.

My camera still does exactly what I bought it for the way I want it to do it. If I need some further capability I'll buy something else. Pretending I'm waiting for Pentax to release something I want just isn't in the cards.

There are people who take action based on what's available and people who whine about things they can't control.

The ones who take action are out shooting. The whiners are hanging around the forum complaining about how Pentax is ruining their lives.

biz-engineer · 09-13-2019, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by normhead

Pentax has product to sell.

As long as Pentax products are for sale, I'm fine.

Gray · 09-13-2019, 07:15 AM - **2 Likes**

That's really disappointing news. I was looking forward with anticipation to a new APS-C flagship this year.

normhead · 09-13-2019, 07:16 AM

I know where there's mushroom I want an image of.... I'll post when I get back. enough talk.

---------- Post added 09-13-19 at 10:17 AM ----------

Originally posted by Gray

That's really disappointing news. I was looking forward with anticipation to a new APS-C flagship this year.

It's not news, its a rumour.

victormeldrew · 09-13-2019, 07:20 AM - **2 Likes**

"Pentax has no plans" = "there is no official announcement"

Anybody publically announcing a release before an official announcement would be looking for a job right now.

**Larrymc** · 09-13-2019, 07:21 AM - **1 Like**

I can't believe this thread and all the strange comments that have gone on for this many pages from one post from a rumor site that picked up a twitter feed from some obscure blogger who doesn't shoot Pentax systems. Have all of you gone absolutely bonkers? I'll answer my question, yes you have!

Medex · 09-13-2019, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by PentaMiCL

Pentax did mention in 2018 something about blowing our minds with something awesome this year because it's their 100th anniversary. I was just about beginning to think, not releasing anything new on a 100-year anniversary is quite mind-blowing.

I like how being a Pentax user turns off the desire for the most cutting edge stuff like 6-8K video. Settling with three year old tech is the best way for me to save money while getting a quality device. I'm loving this life hack -- living three years in the past, if I may.

It also makes me notice the smallest things that I really really want. Now I want a fully-electronic shutter mode so bad that I am considering switching to KP from K-70.

Do you accept the fact that shake reduction does not work with electtonic shutter and there is flickering when shooting indoors in artificidl light? You can't shoot in series, HDR, etc.

**BigMackCam** · 09-13-2019, 07:26 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Gray

That's really disappointing news. I was looking forward with anticipation to a new APS-C flagship this year.

I've said it before in a variety of ways, and I'll say it again... The time to look forward to a new product release, regardless of brand, is when the company itself makes an official, specific announcement - and we've not had that from Ricoh. The moment there's the slightest rumour of a rumour of something someone read somewhere, the rumour takes on a life of its own and, before long, we're all expecting a new camera or lens when no such thing was promised. We really are our own worst enemies, at times

**Belnan** · 09-13-2019, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

Why are so many people so desperate for a new camera anyway? What is it you need that you haven't got now, that's so vital that Ricoh should invest the research and development funds necessary to give it to you?

What are the specific photographs that you need to take that you can't take now with a K-1ii or a KP? And I'm not talking about technologically unavailable fantasies like: "Yeah, cos I wanna get shots of owls in total darkness with instantaneous autofocus and no noise at ISO 500,000."

And don't just give us a list of things that other manufacturers are doing that you think Pentax should be doing, because its the other camera makers who are blowing millions on R&D for unnecessary new product lines that are really in trouble. It's exactly by accepting that the technology is now mature and slowing down the pace of development that Pentax will survive.

This question has been answered many times. No new R&D is even required.

dan.a.nesheim · 09-13-2019, 07:28 AM - **2 Likes**

There was a post on this forum earlier this year who quoted a interview with a pentax official, saying that there was high probability for a new camera release in q1-q2 2020.
So no release this fall, is no surprise.

BROO · 09-13-2019, 07:31 AM - **1 Like**

I think Ricoh see cameras as portable black pieces of office equipment. Just a functional tool designed for a purpose. I am quite comfortable with that because at the end of the day that is all it is!
How often do you upgrade your office equipment?

**Serkevan** · 09-13-2019, 07:34 AM - **1 Like**

If people were going to buy only the bestest cameras, with all the features possible, a million pixels and AF speed and accuracy measured in the nanoscale, no one would ever buy a camera. I mean, why would ANYONE buy something that they are already disappointed with in advance?

I'm going to do like @Normhead, after work I'm gonna grab the camera and try some buildings. Light's been lovely these days.

**luftfluss** · 09-13-2019, 07:39 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Larrymc

I can't believe this thread and all the strange comments that have gone on for this many pages from one post from a rumor site that picked up a twitter feed from some obscure blogger who doesn't shoot Pentax systems. Have all of you gone absolutely bonkers? I'll answer my question, yes you have!

The blogger posting this is immaterial. The statement about no plans to announce new camera is directly from the Ricoh Imaging USA Twitter account, so that is meaningful.

09-13-2019, 06:55 AM - 1 Like	#48
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Kunzite "Valuable bits (the medical side)"? So in your opinion, Pentax Imaging is not valuable? IMO they might work on completely new cameras - they did that with the GR III, might do the same with Pentax. Changing the processor family and OS, changing everything else - stuff like that. Unless we'll have a very quiet CP+, I see no reason to get worried. There must be new processors AF units etc. available. People complain is it's just a tweak upgrade like the K-3ii and K-1ii then they complain if it takes longer than a tweak. People just complain. The big question... what's your rush? These are completely arbitrary attention seeking arguments. You can never question someone's arbitrary decision, it will never make sense to anyone not in the same emotional state. My camera still does exactly what I bought it for the way I want it to do it. If I need some further capability I'll buy something else. Pretending I'm waiting for Pentax to release something I want just isn't in the cards. There are people who take action based on what's available and people who whine about things they can't control. The ones who take action are out shooting. The whiners are hanging around the forum complaining about how Pentax is ruining their lives. Last edited by normhead; 09-13-2019 at 07:08 AM.

09-13-2019, 06:40 AM	#46
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by guinnessman Didn't Hoya already strip the valuable bits (the medical side)? I'm honestly a bit confused by their strategy. "Valuable bits (the medical side)"? So in your opinion, Pentax Imaging is not valuable? IMO they might work on completely new cameras - they did that with the GR III, might do the same with Pentax. Changing the processor family and OS, changing everything else - stuff like that. Unless we'll have a very quiet CP+, I see no reason to get worried.

09-13-2019, 06:55 AM	#47
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	Originally posted by Adam In that case we will definitely get a new camera in the 11 days left of summer, and 10 days of winter, in 2019 Hahaha! November 27 will reveal the status of Pentax. We probably won't hear anything about Pentax around then either. Hahaha!

09-13-2019, 07:10 AM	#49
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	Originally posted by normhead Pentax has product to sell. As long as Pentax products are for sale, I'm fine.

09-13-2019, 07:15 AM - 2 Likes	#50
Gray Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cape Town Photos: Gallery Posts: 536	That's really disappointing news. I was looking forward with anticipation to a new APS-C flagship this year.

09-13-2019, 07:16 AM	#51
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	I know where there's mushroom I want an image of.... I'll post when I get back. enough talk. ---------- Post added 09-13-19 at 10:17 AM ---------- Originally posted by Gray That's really disappointing news. I was looking forward with anticipation to a new APS-C flagship this year. It's not news, its a rumour.

09-13-2019, 07:20 AM - 2 Likes	#52
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	"Pentax has no plans" = "there is no official announcement" Anybody publically announcing a release before an official announcement would be looking for a job right now.

09-13-2019, 07:21 AM - 1 Like	#53
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	I can't believe this thread and all the strange comments that have gone on for this many pages from one post from a rumor site that picked up a twitter feed from some obscure blogger who doesn't shoot Pentax systems. Have all of you gone absolutely bonkers? I'll answer my question, yes you have!

09-13-2019, 07:25 AM	#54
Medex Pentaxian Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vilnius Posts: 1,020	Originally posted by PentaMiCL Pentax did mention in 2018 something about blowing our minds with something awesome this year because it's their 100th anniversary. I was just about beginning to think, not releasing anything new on a 100-year anniversary is quite mind-blowing. I like how being a Pentax user turns off the desire for the most cutting edge stuff like 6-8K video. Settling with three year old tech is the best way for me to save money while getting a quality device. I'm loving this life hack -- living three years in the past, if I may. It also makes me notice the smallest things that I really really want. Now I want a fully-electronic shutter mode so bad that I am considering switching to KP from K-70. Do you accept the fact that shake reduction does not work with electtonic shutter and there is flickering when shooting indoors in artificidl light? You can't shoot in series, HDR, etc.

09-13-2019, 07:26 AM - 2 Likes	#55
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,670	Originally posted by Gray That's really disappointing news. I was looking forward with anticipation to a new APS-C flagship this year. I've said it before in a variety of ways, and I'll say it again... The time to look forward to a new product release, regardless of brand, is when the company itself makes an official, specific announcement - and we've not had that from Ricoh. The moment there's the slightest rumour of a rumour of something someone read somewhere, the rumour takes on a life of its own and, before long, we're all expecting a new camera or lens when no such thing was promised. We really are our own worst enemies, at times

09-13-2019, 07:26 AM	#56
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave Why are so many people so desperate for a new camera anyway? What is it you need that you haven't got now, that's so vital that Ricoh should invest the research and development funds necessary to give it to you? What are the specific photographs that you need to take that you can't take now with a K-1ii or a KP? And I'm not talking about technologically unavailable fantasies like: "Yeah, cos I wanna get shots of owls in total darkness with instantaneous autofocus and no noise at ISO 500,000." And don't just give us a list of things that other manufacturers are doing that you think Pentax should be doing, because its the other camera makers who are blowing millions on R&D for unnecessary new product lines that are really in trouble. It's exactly by accepting that the technology is now mature and slowing down the pace of development that Pentax will survive. This question has been answered many times. No new R&D is even required.

09-13-2019, 07:28 AM - 2 Likes	#57
dan.a.nesheim Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Photos: Gallery Posts: 167	There was a post on this forum earlier this year who quoted a interview with a pentax official, saying that there was high probability for a new camera release in q1-q2 2020. So no release this fall, is no surprise.

09-13-2019, 07:31 AM - 1 Like	#58
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	I think Ricoh see cameras as portable black pieces of office equipment. Just a functional tool designed for a purpose. I am quite comfortable with that because at the end of the day that is all it is! How often do you upgrade your office equipment?

09-13-2019, 07:34 AM - 1 Like	#59
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	If people were going to buy only the bestest cameras, with all the features possible, a million pixels and AF speed and accuracy measured in the nanoscale, no one would ever buy a camera. I mean, why would ANYONE buy something that they are already disappointed with in advance? I'm going to do like @Normhead, after work I'm gonna grab the camera and try some buildings. Light's been lovely these days.

09-13-2019, 07:39 AM - 3 Likes	#60
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by Larrymc I can't believe this thread and all the strange comments that have gone on for this many pages from one post from a rumor site that picked up a twitter feed from some obscure blogger who doesn't shoot Pentax systems. Have all of you gone absolutely bonkers? I'll answer my question, yes you have! The blogger posting this is immaterial. The statement about no plans to announce new camera is directly from the Ricoh Imaging USA Twitter account, so that is meaningful.