"Ricoh/Pentax has no plans to announce a new camera this fall"

Instamixes · 09-17-2019, 05:30 AM

what about the lenses? Are lenses coming this year?

**BigMackCam** · 09-17-2019, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by Instamixes

what about the lenses? Are lenses coming this year?

Which specific lenses are you waiting for?

Sandy Hancock · 09-17-2019, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Instamixes

what about the lenses? Are lenses coming this year?

DA* 11-18/2.8, HD FA 35/2.0, HD DA 10-17/3.5-4.5 so far this year.

There might be more to come, but who knows for sure? No one here who's willing to admit it

reh321 · 09-17-2019, 05:54 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by revelstoked

Agreed.. I really wanted to like it, even actually tracked one down in store (no mean feat here in Western Canada!) But I just couldn't get behind the ergonomics. If it had felt better I probably would have justified the lacking video and dial quirks... Although, I would have probably sobered to it later. It sure does look nice though...

So you "just couldn't get behind the ergonomics"??? Frankly, that is a really lame excuse. That is your problem; once you put the largest {plastic} grip on a KP, it has the ergonomics of a K-50. That is like my saying "I don't like black cameras" ..... I truly don't, but they take better pictures than a broken camera does. Incidentally, the "quirky dials" on the KP come from the K-1, so there is every reason to expect future Pentax cameras to have them also; once I got used to them, they allow me to change all three sides of the 'exposure triangle' without lowering the camera from my eye. My Grandmother, who was born a Hungarian peasant and died 85 years later the Mother-in-Law of an American Engineer, would sit down to dinner sometimes, and after looking at the food her daughter had prepared would shrug and say "If that is all there is" and clean her plate.

My wife and I use that "If that is all there is" expression a lot. I wish my K-30 had a much smaller 'handle' - it gets in the way when I try to use it the way I was taught to use a camera sixty years ago - but when my Canon Rebel completely died four years ago, that is what there was. Even today you could purchase a K-3 at eBay; I counted up to 20, then quit. You have absolutely no idea what the next Pentax camera will be like - at one point a Pentax person demurred from showing a silhouette because it might show something ,.... maybe that was an excuse, but maybe they have gone so far from the K-7 body that you can't "get behind the ergonomics" of this one also.

**ThorSanchez** · 09-17-2019, 06:30 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Which specific lenses are you waiting for?

DA* 20mm f/1.8 PLM AW.

SSGGeezer · 09-17-2019, 06:55 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Just for the record, I'm an anaesthesiologist, not a surgeon. But, whatever

Ether or....

normhead · 09-17-2019, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

DA* 20mm f/1.8 PLM AW.

I have the sayang 14 2.8 and the DA 28-105. The difference is 14mm. So the middle would be 21mm. But 20 or 21? Not much difference.

**Serkevan** · 09-17-2019, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

DA* 20mm f/1.8 PLM AW.

Also known as "that lens with the ridiculously excessive AF speed"?

biz-engineer · 09-17-2019, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

DA* 20mm f/1.8 PLM AW.

The samyang 20mm 1.8, sold to a number of Pentax customers. If I had the Samyang 20mm I'd have no need for a Pentax version because manual AF on a 20mm lens isn't a big deal. That means, the Samyang 20mm already took a share of the total market for that focal length for Pentax.

**ThorSanchez** · 09-17-2019, 07:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

I have the sayang 14 2.8 and the DA 28-105. The difference is 14mm. So the middle would be 21mm. But 20 or 21? Not much difference.

I don't care about the exact focal length nearly as much as the weather sealing and silent focus motor. I just want a AW/WR small prime.

biz-engineer · 09-17-2019, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Also known as "that lens with the ridiculously excessive AF speed"?

WR is a good thing on a landscape / astro lens, but fast AF I doubt I'd do a lot of tracking with a 20mm lens.

**Serkevan** · 09-17-2019, 07:07 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

WR is a good thing on a landscape / astro lens, but fast AF I doubt I'd do a lot of tracking with a 20mm lens.

I was being a bit sarcastic (and I guess ThorSanchez was as well), the notion of a PLM 20mm prime is hilarious. AW would be, now talking seriously, great.

normhead · 09-17-2019, 07:12 AM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

WR is a good thing on a landscape / astro lens, but fast AF I doubt I'd do a lot of tracking with a 20mm lens.

How do you get a picture when there's a Grizzly bear 6 feet from you and you can't back up?

Which me reminds me of my neighbour paul who's grandfather was "the" best Algonquin park guide ever..
He asked asked his dad " what do I do if a bear charges me?" His dad said "Throw poop at him."
"Where do I get the poop?"
"Don't worry, you'll have lots."

Wasp · 09-17-2019, 08:16 AM

With no camera forthcoming in the fall, there will be very little left of the Asahi Optical Company centenary year in which to release the Pentax C. Or anything else.

Color me disappointed.

**monochrome** · 09-17-2019, 08:44 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rondec

There are a bunch of cameras that could be reasonably priced that would be better than a non-functional K50.

I hate to judge, but I don't see someone who is unwilling to upgrade their K50 for any of the current options (used or new) on the market as truly being interested in a new, expensive APS-C camera.

Cameras bought new: K10D, K-01, K-3 (sold for K-1), K-1.
Cameras bought used at good to great prices: K5-lls, KP.

Sometimes a less than perfect camera passed over on 1st release is suddenly better at a lower price.

09-17-2019, 05:30 AM	#286
Instamixes Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 9	what about the lenses? Are lenses coming this year?

09-17-2019, 05:38 AM	#287
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by Instamixes what about the lenses? Are lenses coming this year? Which specific lenses are you waiting for?

09-17-2019, 05:43 AM	#288
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	Originally posted by Instamixes what about the lenses? Are lenses coming this year? DA* 11-18/2.8, HD FA 35/2.0, HD DA 10-17/3.5-4.5 so far this year. There might be more to come, but who knows for sure? No one here who's willing to admit it

09-17-2019, 05:54 AM - 1 Like	#289
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by revelstoked Agreed.. I really wanted to like it, even actually tracked one down in store (no mean feat here in Western Canada!) But I just couldn't get behind the ergonomics. If it had felt better I probably would have justified the lacking video and dial quirks... Although, I would have probably sobered to it later. It sure does look nice though... So you "just couldn't get behind the ergonomics"??? Frankly, that is a really lame excuse. That is your problem; once you put the largest {plastic} grip on a KP, it has the ergonomics of a K-50. That is like my saying "I don't like black cameras" ..... I truly don't, but they take better pictures than a broken camera does. Incidentally, the "quirky dials" on the KP come from the K-1, so there is every reason to expect future Pentax cameras to have them also; once I got used to them, they allow me to change all three sides of the 'exposure triangle' without lowering the camera from my eye. My Grandmother, who was born a Hungarian peasant and died 85 years later the Mother-in-Law of an American Engineer, would sit down to dinner sometimes, and after looking at the food her daughter had prepared would shrug and say "If that is all there is" and clean her plate. My wife and I use that "If that is all there is" expression a lot. I wish my K-30 had a much smaller 'handle' - it gets in the way when I try to use it the way I was taught to use a camera sixty years ago - but when my Canon Rebel completely died four years ago, that is what there was. Even today you could purchase a K-3 at eBay; I counted up to 20, then quit. You have absolutely no idea what the next Pentax camera will be like - at one point a Pentax person demurred from showing a silhouette because it might show something ,.... maybe that was an excuse, but maybe they have gone so far from the K-7 body that you can't "get behind the ergonomics" of this one also.

09-17-2019, 06:30 AM - 1 Like	#290
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,806	Originally posted by BigMackCam Which specific lenses are you waiting for? DA* 20mm f/1.8 PLM AW.

09-17-2019, 06:55 AM - 2 Likes	#291
SSGGeezer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Indiana, U.S. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,845	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Just for the record, I'm an anaesthesiologist, not a surgeon. But, whatever Ether or....

09-17-2019, 06:59 AM	#292
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by ThorSanchez DA* 20mm f/1.8 PLM AW. I have the sayang 14 2.8 and the DA 28-105. The difference is 14mm. So the middle would be 21mm. But 20 or 21? Not much difference.

09-17-2019, 07:02 AM	#293
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by ThorSanchez DA* 20mm f/1.8 PLM AW. Also known as "that lens with the ridiculously excessive AF speed"?

09-17-2019, 07:04 AM	#294
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by ThorSanchez DA* 20mm f/1.8 PLM AW. The samyang 20mm 1.8, sold to a number of Pentax customers. If I had the Samyang 20mm I'd have no need for a Pentax version because manual AF on a 20mm lens isn't a big deal. That means, the Samyang 20mm already took a share of the total market for that focal length for Pentax.

09-17-2019, 07:04 AM - 1 Like	#295
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,806	Originally posted by normhead I have the sayang 14 2.8 and the DA 28-105. The difference is 14mm. So the middle would be 21mm. But 20 or 21? Not much difference. I don't care about the exact focal length nearly as much as the weather sealing and silent focus motor. I just want a AW/WR small prime.

09-17-2019, 07:05 AM	#296
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by Serkevan Also known as "that lens with the ridiculously excessive AF speed"? WR is a good thing on a landscape / astro lens, but fast AF I doubt I'd do a lot of tracking with a 20mm lens.

09-17-2019, 07:07 AM - 2 Likes	#297
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by biz-engineer WR is a good thing on a landscape / astro lens, but fast AF I doubt I'd do a lot of tracking with a 20mm lens. I was being a bit sarcastic (and I guess ThorSanchez was as well), the notion of a PLM 20mm prime is hilarious. AW would be, now talking seriously, great.

09-17-2019, 07:12 AM - 6 Likes	#298
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by biz-engineer WR is a good thing on a landscape / astro lens, but fast AF I doubt I'd do a lot of tracking with a 20mm lens. How do you get a picture when there's a Grizzly bear 6 feet from you and you can't back up? Which me reminds me of my neighbour paul who's grandfather was "the" best Algonquin park guide ever.. He asked asked his dad " what do I do if a bear charges me?" His dad said "Throw poop at him." "Where do I get the poop?" "Don't worry, you'll have lots."

09-17-2019, 08:16 AM	#299
Wasp Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pretoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,661	With no camera forthcoming in the fall, there will be very little left of the Asahi Optical Company centenary year in which to release the Pentax C. Or anything else. Color me disappointed.

09-17-2019, 08:44 AM - 1 Like	#300
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Rondec There are a bunch of cameras that could be reasonably priced that would be better than a non-functional K50. I hate to judge, but I don't see someone who is unwilling to upgrade their K50 for any of the current options (used or new) on the market as truly being interested in a new, expensive APS-C camera. Cameras bought new: K10D, K-01, K-3 (sold for K-1), K-1. Cameras bought used at good to great prices: K5-lls, KP. Sometimes a less than perfect camera passed over on 1st release is suddenly better at a lower price.