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**Serkevan** · 10-28-2019, 12:13 PM

Well count me as one guy who prefers the old placement of the AF button

For me, the natural resting place of the thumb is inward, straight over the green button on the K-1.

Kaladran · 10-28-2019, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by house

Absolutely! I agree on that one and it's enough to make the K-3 the better body. However the size and fit of the overall body is nicer on the K-5

Agreed, the K5 just seems to fit my hands better.

**FozzFoster** · 10-28-2019, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by Serkevan

For me, the natural resting place of the thumb is inward, straight over the green button on the K-1.

That may be a natural resting place - it is for me too... but having the thumb turned inward removes the thumb from the side which can help support the camera by placing the thumb along the edge bracer, no?

**mlt** · 10-28-2019, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by FozzFoster

That may be a natural resting place - it is for me too... but having the thumb turned inward removes the thumb from the side which can help support the camera by placing the thumb along the edge bracer, no?

At least it’s not a ‘final resting place’.

ecostigny · 10-28-2019, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Kaladran

Agreed, the K5 just seems to fit my hands better.

I haven't tried too many Pentax DSLR bodies, but the K-x feels like a toy in my largish paws while the K-5--even with the attached battery grip--fits my right hand like it was custom-made for me.

**mlt** · 10-28-2019, 01:24 PM

My K10 (since sold.

), K5 and K3 have all felt more comfortable with the addition of the add-on grip. So far! Have not felt a need to add one to my K1.

ecostigny · 10-28-2019, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by mlt

My K10 (since sold.

), K5 and K3 have all felt more comfortable with the addition of the add-on grip. So far! Have not felt a need to add one to my K1.

The K1 is a bigger camera, so the battery grip isn't as necessary for those of us with big hands.

Kaladran · 10-28-2019, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by ecostigny

The K1 is a bigger camera, so the battery grip isn't as necessary for those of us with big hands.

I haven't tried the K1, but do agree with the other models battery grip gives some extra real estate for those with bigger hands.

reh321 · 10-28-2019, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by ecostigny

I haven't tried too many Pentax DSLR bodies, but the K-x feels like a toy in my largish paws while the K-5--even with the attached battery grip--fits my right hand like it was custom-made for me.

Ricoh may have tried to meet {with the KP} the needs of those who feel that MILC are better 'because they are smaller' - to me, with its smallest grip, it naturally fits the two-handed grip I've been been using since 1969.

**Belnan** · 10-28-2019, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by reh321

Ricoh may have tried to meet {with the KP} the needs of those who feel that MILC are better 'because they are smaller' - to me, with its smallest grip, it naturally fits the two-handed grip I've been been using since 1969.

I've never actually even seen one in person. Pentax seems to make cameras that look better in real life than, ironically, in a photo.

**FozzFoster** · 10-28-2019, 02:17 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by reh321

'because they are smaller'

I never understood that argument. A camera isn't much without a lens. And a mirrorless set up (with a lens) is about the same size as a dslr.
It's not substantially smaller with an attached lens.

reh321 · 10-28-2019, 02:25 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

I never understood that argument. A camera isn't much without a lens. And a mirrorless set up (with a lens) is about the same size as a dslr.
It's not substantially smaller with an attached lens.

All I know about this is what people sometimes claim. Personally, I have tried a Canon M-50 in a big box store, and a Nikon K-7 during Nikon's "tour" a year or so ago; I have no problem with their size or with their EVF, but Pentax is not selling them, I don't want to purchase a new lens collection, and I'm perfectly with the KP I purchased last Black Friday, so I have no plans to purchase one in any case.

CapitanXeon · 10-28-2019, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

THis will be a very very long thread

Indeed

reh321 · 10-28-2019, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

THis will be a very very long thread

and if people have things they need to talk about, that is fine. If they are adding up posts one at a time, they are taking the long way.

**RobA_Oz** · 10-28-2019, 03:35 PM

All this talk about fitting larger (male) hands leads me to wonder about the opposite: where do the (generally) smaller female hands fit In the discussion? It’s just an impression I have from my limited acquaintance with women photographers, but only one of them has used a larger DSLR (a Canon 5Diii) and she recently moved to one of the new Canon mirrorless bodies. Of course, the weight of the gear may also be a factor, but I do wonder how much influence women’s requirements have on camera design.

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10-28-2019, 12:13 PM	#3091
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Well count me as one guy who prefers the old placement of the AF button For me, the natural resting place of the thumb is inward, straight over the green button on the K-1.

10-28-2019, 12:15 PM	#3092
Kaladran Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 196	Originally posted by house Absolutely! I agree on that one and it's enough to make the K-3 the better body. However the size and fit of the overall body is nicer on the K-5 Agreed, the K5 just seems to fit my hands better.

10-28-2019, 12:19 PM	#3093
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,808	Originally posted by Serkevan For me, the natural resting place of the thumb is inward, straight over the green button on the K-1. That may be a natural resting place - it is for me too... but having the thumb turned inward removes the thumb from the side which can help support the camera by placing the thumb along the edge bracer, no?

10-28-2019, 01:16 PM	#3094
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Originally posted by FozzFoster That may be a natural resting place - it is for me too... but having the thumb turned inward removes the thumb from the side which can help support the camera by placing the thumb along the edge bracer, no? At least it’s not a ‘final resting place’.

10-28-2019, 01:17 PM	#3095
ecostigny Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Branford, CT Posts: 561	Originally posted by Kaladran Agreed, the K5 just seems to fit my hands better. I haven't tried too many Pentax DSLR bodies, but the K-x feels like a toy in my largish paws while the K-5--even with the attached battery grip--fits my right hand like it was custom-made for me.

10-28-2019, 01:24 PM	#3096
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	My K10 (since sold. ), K5 and K3 have all felt more comfortable with the addition of the add-on grip. So far! Have not felt a need to add one to my K1.

10-28-2019, 01:27 PM	#3097
ecostigny Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Branford, CT Posts: 561	Originally posted by mlt My K10 (since sold. ), K5 and K3 have all felt more comfortable with the addition of the add-on grip. So far! Have not felt a need to add one to my K1. The K1 is a bigger camera, so the battery grip isn't as necessary for those of us with big hands.

10-28-2019, 01:42 PM	#3098
Kaladran Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 196	Originally posted by ecostigny The K1 is a bigger camera, so the battery grip isn't as necessary for those of us with big hands. I haven't tried the K1, but do agree with the other models battery grip gives some extra real estate for those with bigger hands.

10-28-2019, 02:02 PM	#3099
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by ecostigny I haven't tried too many Pentax DSLR bodies, but the K-x feels like a toy in my largish paws while the K-5--even with the attached battery grip--fits my right hand like it was custom-made for me. Ricoh may have tried to meet {with the KP} the needs of those who feel that MILC are better 'because they are smaller' - to me, with its smallest grip, it naturally fits the two-handed grip I've been been using since 1969.

10-28-2019, 02:16 PM	#3100
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by reh321 Ricoh may have tried to meet {with the KP} the needs of those who feel that MILC are better 'because they are smaller' - to me, with its smallest grip, it naturally fits the two-handed grip I've been been using since 1969. I've never actually even seen one in person. Pentax seems to make cameras that look better in real life than, ironically, in a photo.

10-28-2019, 02:17 PM - 2 Likes	#3101
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,808	Originally posted by reh321 'because they are smaller' I never understood that argument. A camera isn't much without a lens. And a mirrorless set up (with a lens) is about the same size as a dslr. It's not substantially smaller with an attached lens.

10-28-2019, 02:25 PM - 1 Like	#3102
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by FozzFoster I never understood that argument. A camera isn't much without a lens. And a mirrorless set up (with a lens) is about the same size as a dslr. It's not substantially smaller with an attached lens. All I know about this is what people sometimes claim. Personally, I have tried a Canon M-50 in a big box store, and a Nikon K-7 during Nikon's "tour" a year or so ago; I have no problem with their size or with their EVF, but Pentax is not selling them, I don't want to purchase a new lens collection, and I'm perfectly with the KP I purchased last Black Friday, so I have no plans to purchase one in any case.

10-28-2019, 02:26 PM	#3103
CapitanXeon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Terrassa Posts: 220	Originally posted by bobmaxja THis will be a very very long thread Indeed

10-28-2019, 02:30 PM	#3104
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by bobmaxja THis will be a very very long thread and if people have things they need to talk about, that is fine. If they are adding up posts one at a time, they are taking the long way.

10-28-2019, 03:35 PM	#3105
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	All this talk about fitting larger (male) hands leads me to wonder about the opposite: where do the (generally) smaller female hands fit In the discussion? It’s just an impression I have from my limited acquaintance with women photographers, but only one of them has used a larger DSLR (a Canon 5Diii) and she recently moved to one of the new Canon mirrorless bodies. Of course, the weight of the gear may also be a factor, but I do wonder how much influence women’s requirements have on camera design.

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