New K-series DSLR under development to be exhibited

reh321 · 09-23-2019, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Dericali

Literally no. I don't mean a screen that flips around for selfies. I mean a screen that doesn't force you to crouch down behind a tripod mounted camera. Very seldom does one record video from eye height.

I have found that the LCD in one of these cameras has a fairly wide angle of view .... but I doubt if this new camera will surpass a camcorder in any case.

reh321 · 09-23-2019, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Class A

The K-3 II and K-1 were released without pop-up flashes as well. I don't think a fourth model without a pop-up flash would signal the possibility of a new wireless flash solution.

I don't think Profoto and Elinchrome pricing is compatible with the budget choices Pentaxians seem to make. I don't know about Elinca.

There are already a number of alternatives, though. Wireless, radio-based solutions with Pentax-dedication are available from

Cactus
Cononmark
Godox
Phottix
PrioLite

In particular Godox (and Flashpoint) offer Pentax-dedicated triggers for a large ecosystem of lights which is very popular. It lacks the professional support Profoto offers but if one buys from a reputable seller like Adorama (they rebrand Godox as "Flashpoint" but also have Adorama-exclusive Flashpoint triggers like the R2 Pro MkII) then one will be fine, at least for as long as the warranty lasts. There are some US-based Godox repair options as well. This offsets the fact that Godox themselves do not interact with customers directly.

Pentax seems to be directing their products more at those of us who are happy using ambient light.

Zooland · 09-23-2019, 05:56 AM - **2 Likes**

Can someone start a new thread dedicated to the new camera’s lcd screen?

bobmaxja · 09-23-2019, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Zooland

Can someone start a new thread dedicated to the new camera’s lcd screen?

Why? There no details just pure speculation.

reh321 · 09-23-2019, 06:14 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

Note too that it already has a model name, which is simply taped shut with a bit of black masking tape. If it was a mock-up, that level of detail would be highly unlikely to be present.l

One thing we do know - not a long name like my old "Super Program".

thibs · 09-23-2019, 06:23 AM

Originally posted by Larrymc

at least its better than the constant bitching, whining and bellyaching about what ever Ricoh/Pentax has or hasn't done.

Oh but it has begun already, ya know...😁

Zygonyx · 09-23-2019, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by Zooland

Can someone start a new thread dedicated to the new camera’s lcd screen?

In two words : touch screen.

D1N0 · 09-23-2019, 06:29 AM - **7 Likes**

And a touch viewfinder (as I can clear see a fingerprint on it.)

**Serkevan** · 09-23-2019, 06:31 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bobmaxja

Why? There no details just pure speculation.

We got 472 replies on a thread about a tweet that turned out to be a bamboozle. Do you think reality is going to get in the way of ye olde an goode speculation threads?

troenaas · 09-23-2019, 06:36 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

If the new Pentax model has a tilt screen, Ricoh run the risk that the new model won't be considered as a successor of the K3.

Ha ha ha - you are killing me.....

**lsimpkins** · 09-23-2019, 06:52 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ffking

I think the screen is fixed - mostly, as I've said, because there is no protection for the edges of the glass if it is not.

Note that most cell phones have glass screens that go fully to the edge - the right material makes a world of difference (Gorilla glass anyone?). I'm not saying that the screen is fixed or not, just that materials are not the determining factor.

Zygonyx · 09-23-2019, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by troenaas

Ha ha ha - you are killing me.....

But the pop-up flash is missing...

**Larrymc** · 09-23-2019, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by lsimpkins

Note that most cell phones have glass screens that go fully to the edge - the right material makes a world of difference (Gorilla glass anyone?). I'm not saying that the screen is fixed or not, just that materials are not the determining factor.

I've been waiting for someone to point this out........thanks!

**ffking** · 09-23-2019, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by Larrymc

I've been waiting for someone to point this out........thanks!

Why wait?

My phone has glass that goes to the edge, but the edge curves over, there is no exposed corner Maybe others are different? But anyway - why build in an unnecessary vulnerability into your screen? There COULD be a reason, but it would have to be a very good one.

**TwoUptons** · 09-23-2019, 09:17 AM - **2 Likes**

I think an articulated screen of some sort would be a good idea...

But then I think of all the times I read “just like a K-3 but with a bigger buffer and better AF...”

So a fixed screen is not unreasonable to me if we assume Ricoh reads some of those comments...

-Eric

09-23-2019, 05:43 AM	#842
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by Class A The K-3 II and K-1 were released without pop-up flashes as well. I don't think a fourth model without a pop-up flash would signal the possibility of a new wireless flash solution. I don't think Profoto and Elinchrome pricing is compatible with the budget choices Pentaxians seem to make. I don't know about Elinca. There are already a number of alternatives, though. Wireless, radio-based solutions with Pentax-dedication are available from Cactus Cononmark Godox Phottix PrioLite In particular Godox (and Flashpoint) offer Pentax-dedicated triggers for a large ecosystem of lights which is very popular. It lacks the professional support Profoto offers but if one buys from a reputable seller like Adorama (they rebrand Godox as "Flashpoint" but also have Adorama-exclusive Flashpoint triggers like the R2 Pro MkII) then one will be fine, at least for as long as the warranty lasts. There are some US-based Godox repair options as well. This offsets the fact that Godox themselves do not interact with customers directly. Pentax seems to be directing their products more at those of us who are happy using ambient light.

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09-23-2019, 05:40 AM	#841
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by Dericali Literally no. I don't mean a screen that flips around for selfies. I mean a screen that doesn't force you to crouch down behind a tripod mounted camera. Very seldom does one record video from eye height. I have found that the LCD in one of these cameras has a fairly wide angle of view .... but I doubt if this new camera will surpass a camcorder in any case.

09-23-2019, 05:56 AM - 2 Likes	#843
Zooland Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 370	Can someone start a new thread dedicated to the new camera’s lcd screen?

09-23-2019, 05:58 AM	#844
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Originally posted by Zooland Can someone start a new thread dedicated to the new camera’s lcd screen? Why? There no details just pure speculation.

09-23-2019, 06:14 AM - 1 Like	#845
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by MarkJerling Note too that it already has a model name, which is simply taped shut with a bit of black masking tape. If it was a mock-up, that level of detail would be highly unlikely to be present.l One thing we do know - not a long name like my old "Super Program".

09-23-2019, 06:23 AM	#846
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Larrymc at least its better than the constant bitching, whining and bellyaching about what ever Ricoh/Pentax has or hasn't done. Oh but it has begun already, ya know...😁

09-23-2019, 06:28 AM	#847
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	Originally posted by Zooland Can someone start a new thread dedicated to the new camera’s lcd screen? In two words : touch screen.

09-23-2019, 06:29 AM - 7 Likes	#848
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	And a touch viewfinder (as I can clear see a fingerprint on it.)

09-23-2019, 06:31 AM - 1 Like	#849
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by bobmaxja Why? There no details just pure speculation. We got 472 replies on a thread about a tweet that turned out to be a bamboozle. Do you think reality is going to get in the way of ye olde an goode speculation threads?

09-23-2019, 06:36 AM - 2 Likes	#850
troenaas Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 668	Originally posted by biz-engineer If the new Pentax model has a tilt screen, Ricoh run the risk that the new model won't be considered as a successor of the K3. Ha ha ha - you are killing me.....

09-23-2019, 06:52 AM - 1 Like	#851
lsimpkins Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SE Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 537	Originally posted by ffking I think the screen is fixed - mostly, as I've said, because there is no protection for the edges of the glass if it is not. Note that most cell phones have glass screens that go fully to the edge - the right material makes a world of difference (Gorilla glass anyone?). I'm not saying that the screen is fixed or not, just that materials are not the determining factor.

09-23-2019, 06:53 AM	#852
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	Originally posted by troenaas Ha ha ha - you are killing me..... But the pop-up flash is missing...

09-23-2019, 07:05 AM	#853
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by lsimpkins Note that most cell phones have glass screens that go fully to the edge - the right material makes a world of difference (Gorilla glass anyone?). I'm not saying that the screen is fixed or not, just that materials are not the determining factor. I've been waiting for someone to point this out........thanks!

09-23-2019, 07:47 AM	#854
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by Larrymc I've been waiting for someone to point this out........thanks! Why wait? My phone has glass that goes to the edge, but the edge curves over, there is no exposed corner Maybe others are different? But anyway - why build in an unnecessary vulnerability into your screen? There COULD be a reason, but it would have to be a very good one.

09-23-2019, 09:17 AM - 2 Likes	#855
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,207	I think an articulated screen of some sort would be a good idea... But then I think of all the times I read “just like a K-3 but with a bigger buffer and better AF...” So a fixed screen is not unreasonable to me if we assume Ricoh reads some of those comments... -Eric

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