New K-series DSLR under development to be exhibited

Mistral75 · 09-20-2019, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by D FA 24 F2

Amzazing,good news from china
26mp BSI 32bit DOL_HDR
153 autofocus point
153
153
??
Source come from a semiconductor engineer

Thank you for the link.

DOL-HDR (Digital Overlap High Dynamic Range) is a Sony technology:

DOL-HDR Image Sensor for Camera | Sony Semiconductor Solutions Corporation

**Larrymc** · 09-20-2019, 08:54 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by boriscleto

This has popped up in several Facebook groups. Nothing but complaints about it not being mirrorless, or that it's a K-mount camera and not L-mount or etc...

And probably all from people who don't plan to buy one anyhow!

reh321 · 09-20-2019, 08:54 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by monochrome

The ergonomics of the body have always bee excellent, so why mess with it? What really matters is the internal architecture. Is this a clear break with the past or just a further extension of the core Sony / SAFOX / SocioNext logic? If it is the same old same old what took so long?

Some years ago I taught a college course entitled "Modeling and Simulation". The first day of class I passed around a model 'N gauge' locomotive and we talked about things it had in common with the prototype {how it looked as a whole, what couplers did, ....} and how they differed {model made of plastic while prototype made of steel, model powered by electricity while prototype powered by combustion, ...} - then how those features would affect how we could use the model to represent the prototype.

How is that relevant to your question? Pentax has told us that the new camera is finally coming and roughly when! They appear to tell us that it is a DSLR. We need to be careful not to draw too many other conclusions from this announcement of an upcoming Announcement. Maybe this body hides a reworked KP - maybe it hides a reworked Samsung NX1 -maybe something in between the two - maybe something we can't even envision. So many questions .... but they just aren't ready to tell us anything more right now.

D FA 24 F2 · 09-20-2019, 08:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

Thank you for the link.

DOL-HDR (Digital Overlap High Dynamic Range) is a Sony technology:

DOL-HDR Image Sensor for Camera | Sony Semiconductor Solutions Corporation

This is first Time pentax using the new generation sony cmos

MikeD · 09-20-2019, 08:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Joshua A

As long as this has the viewfinder LCD of the K-1, its an instant preorder for me. Shame about the lack of tilt screen though.

If no tilt screen, hello Sony Mirrorless. and 26mp too low for a 5+ yr wait for a new Flagship APSC , and actually why isn't this mirrorless ,it is the future. The only thing I'd miss is my 60-250 and matched multiplier

stevebrot · 09-20-2019, 09:00 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Fogel70

If you zoom in on the top and bottom right corner of the LCD you can see that the back is curved so the LCD is more recessed on the far right side. So it us the complete opposite of a cavity.

We are obviously looking at a different image.

Steve

Mistral75 · 09-20-2019, 09:02 AM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by MikeD

If no tilt screen, hello Sony Mirrorless. and 26mp too low for a 5+ yr wait for a new Flagship APSC , and actually why isn't this mirrorless ,it is the future. The only thing I'd miss is my 60-250 and matched multiplier

No tilt screen ? I wouldn't be so affirmative if I were you.

**Serkevan** · 09-20-2019, 09:05 AM - **9 Likes**

Originally posted by MikeD

If no tilt screen, hello Sony Mirrorless. and 26mp too low for a 5+ yr wait for a new Flagship APSC , and actually why isn't this mirrorless ,it is the future. The only thing I'd miss is my 60-250 and matched multiplier

We don't even know if the screen is flippy, tilting or flying with a drone behind it.

There are literally two APS-C cameras with more than 26 MP: the Canon 90D and M6ii which have been announced less than a month ago. Everything else is lower or equal. Also, thinking that 10% MP count means anything is hilarious.

If you want a mirrorless go and buy it. Why don't you? What do you have against people that cannot use EVFs, that you want to remove their OVF option completely when it is of no impact to you?

Do you have any clue what you write about or are you being contrarian for the heck of it?

Fogel70 · 09-20-2019, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

We are obviously looking at a different image.

Steve

No, just look at the top too.
It is designed just like K3II where the back is curved and becomes deeper at the right side of the LCD.

**Larrymc** · 09-20-2019, 09:08 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by virusn3t

My only "issue" with Pentax today is the AF, i would like to be fastest (Center point is good, but eye AF for kids and moving person can make my work way more easier), that Joystick give me hopes, i would like to see a huge improvement in that area and then see that tech exported to a FF camera, otherwise i maybe jump ships to Sony or Nikon mirrorles, prove me wrong Ricoh.

Don't forget to wear your life preserver when you jump ship!

stevebrot · 09-20-2019, 09:16 AM - **9 Likes**

It is amazing how the tone of this thread changed once the trolls woke up.

Steve

Mistral75 · 09-20-2019, 09:20 AM - **5 Likes**

Originally posted by stevebrot

It is amazing how the tone of this thread changed once the trolls woke up.

Steve

That gives us an indication of the time zone the trolls are living in.

Kunzite · 09-20-2019, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

No tilt screen ? I wouldn't be so affirmative if I were you.

That is just the body shape; the LCD screen is fixed in the presented prototype. Possibly on the final product, too.

**Madaboutpix** · 09-20-2019, 09:23 AM

Reassured and intrigued by what I'm seeing, excited even. Glad that they seem to be meaningfully evolving the familiar form factor instead of completely abandoning it. May have to wait a year or two after release, but got a hunch this will be my next camera.

Fogel70 · 09-20-2019, 09:26 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Mistral75

That gives us an indication of the time zone the trolls are living in.

Don't forget that trolls can't stand sunlight. They are mostly nocturnal.

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09-20-2019, 08:54 AM	#211
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	Originally posted by D FA 24 F2 Amzazing,good news from china 26mp BSI 32bit DOL_HDR 153 autofocus point 153 153 ?? Source come from a semiconductor engineer Thank you for the link. DOL-HDR (Digital Overlap High Dynamic Range) is a Sony technology: DOL-HDR Image Sensor for Camera \| Sony Semiconductor Solutions Corporation

09-20-2019, 08:54 AM - 1 Like	#212
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by boriscleto This has popped up in several Facebook groups. Nothing but complaints about it not being mirrorless, or that it's a K-mount camera and not L-mount or etc... And probably all from people who don't plan to buy one anyhow!

09-20-2019, 08:54 AM - 2 Likes	#213
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by monochrome The ergonomics of the body have always bee excellent, so why mess with it? What really matters is the internal architecture. Is this a clear break with the past or just a further extension of the core Sony / SAFOX / SocioNext logic? If it is the same old same old what took so long? Some years ago I taught a college course entitled "Modeling and Simulation". The first day of class I passed around a model 'N gauge' locomotive and we talked about things it had in common with the prototype {how it looked as a whole, what couplers did, ....} and how they differed {model made of plastic while prototype made of steel, model powered by electricity while prototype powered by combustion, ...} - then how those features would affect how we could use the model to represent the prototype. How is that relevant to your question? Pentax has told us that the new camera is finally coming and roughly when! They appear to tell us that it is a DSLR. We need to be careful not to draw too many other conclusions from this announcement of an upcoming Announcement. Maybe this body hides a reworked KP - maybe it hides a reworked Samsung NX1 -maybe something in between the two - maybe something we can't even envision. So many questions .... but they just aren't ready to tell us anything more right now.

09-20-2019, 08:57 AM - 1 Like	#214
D FA 24 F2 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 28	Originally posted by Mistral75 Thank you for the link. DOL-HDR (Digital Overlap High Dynamic Range) is a Sony technology: DOL-HDR Image Sensor for Camera \| Sony Semiconductor Solutions Corporation This is first Time pentax using the new generation sony cmos

09-20-2019, 08:57 AM - 1 Like	#215
MikeD Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: traverse city MI Posts: 346	Originally posted by Joshua A As long as this has the viewfinder LCD of the K-1, its an instant preorder for me. Shame about the lack of tilt screen though. If no tilt screen, hello Sony Mirrorless. and 26mp too low for a 5+ yr wait for a new Flagship APSC , and actually why isn't this mirrorless ,it is the future. The only thing I'd miss is my 60-250 and matched multiplier

09-20-2019, 09:00 AM - 1 Like	#216
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Fogel70 If you zoom in on the top and bottom right corner of the LCD you can see that the back is curved so the LCD is more recessed on the far right side. So it us the complete opposite of a cavity. We are obviously looking at a different image. Steve

09-20-2019, 09:02 AM - 6 Likes	#217
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	Originally posted by MikeD If no tilt screen, hello Sony Mirrorless. and 26mp too low for a 5+ yr wait for a new Flagship APSC , and actually why isn't this mirrorless ,it is the future. The only thing I'd miss is my 60-250 and matched multiplier No tilt screen ? I wouldn't be so affirmative if I were you.

09-20-2019, 09:05 AM - 9 Likes	#218
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by MikeD If no tilt screen, hello Sony Mirrorless. and 26mp too low for a 5+ yr wait for a new Flagship APSC , and actually why isn't this mirrorless ,it is the future. The only thing I'd miss is my 60-250 and matched multiplier We don't even know if the screen is flippy, tilting or flying with a drone behind it. There are literally two APS-C cameras with more than 26 MP: the Canon 90D and M6ii which have been announced less than a month ago. Everything else is lower or equal. Also, thinking that 10% MP count means anything is hilarious. If you want a mirrorless go and buy it. Why don't you? What do you have against people that cannot use EVFs, that you want to remove their OVF option completely when it is of no impact to you? Do you have any clue what you write about or are you being contrarian for the heck of it?

09-20-2019, 09:06 AM	#219
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Originally posted by stevebrot We are obviously looking at a different image. Steve No, just look at the top too. It is designed just like K3II where the back is curved and becomes deeper at the right side of the LCD.

09-20-2019, 09:08 AM - 3 Likes	#220
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by virusn3t My only "issue" with Pentax today is the AF, i would like to be fastest (Center point is good, but eye AF for kids and moving person can make my work way more easier), that Joystick give me hopes, i would like to see a huge improvement in that area and then see that tech exported to a FF camera, otherwise i maybe jump ships to Sony or Nikon mirrorles, prove me wrong Ricoh. Don't forget to wear your life preserver when you jump ship!

09-20-2019, 09:16 AM - 9 Likes	#221
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	It is amazing how the tone of this thread changed once the trolls woke up. Steve

09-20-2019, 09:20 AM - 5 Likes	#222
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	Originally posted by stevebrot It is amazing how the tone of this thread changed once the trolls woke up. Steve That gives us an indication of the time zone the trolls are living in.

09-20-2019, 09:22 AM	#223
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Mistral75 No tilt screen ? I wouldn't be so affirmative if I were you. That is just the body shape; the LCD screen is fixed in the presented prototype. Possibly on the final product, too.

09-20-2019, 09:23 AM	#224
Madaboutpix Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Rhine-Westphalia Posts: 1,438	Reassured and intrigued by what I'm seeing, excited even. Glad that they seem to be meaningfully evolving the familiar form factor instead of completely abandoning it. May have to wait a year or two after release, but got a hunch this will be my next camera.

09-20-2019, 09:26 AM - 2 Likes	#225
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Originally posted by Mistral75 That gives us an indication of the time zone the trolls are living in. Don't forget that trolls can't stand sunlight. They are mostly nocturnal.

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