New K-series DSLR under development to be exhibited

MatKus · 10-01-2019, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by reh321

Focus Motor will become decreasingly important as they issue more and more lenses with in-lens motor.

We had recently 2 "new" screwdrive lenses and 1 with in-lens motor. If they will go this way, I'm not so sure if focis motor will be less important in near future. ;-)

**Mikesul** · 10-01-2019, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by MatKus

We had recently 2 "new" screwdrive lenses and 1 with in-lens motor. If they will go this way, I'm not so sure if focis motor will be less important in near future. ;-)

Weren't the screw drive lenses just refreshes of old lenses? It is very likely that all truly new lenses will be in-lens motor driven.

dan.a.nesheim · 10-01-2019, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Bromberger

Pentax's new cameras always introduce one feature that is innovative (like pixelshift or the k1's screen mechanism), so that all photo gear media have to report on it. Pentax can't afford advertising, but this way, they get attention for their new camera for free.And so, of course they are leaving the button blank until the camera is released... wouldn't want to waste that free media coverage.We'll just have to be patient.

Good point.

MikeyBugs95 · 10-01-2019, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Weren't the screw drive lenses just refreshes of old lenses? It is very likely that all truly new lenses will be in-lens motor driven.

Yeah, the FA 35 and DA 10-17.

richandfleur · 10-01-2019, 03:15 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Bromberger

Hasn't Ricoh developed 4k video capabilites when they needed it for the Theta V? I thought maybe the Theta was a sign that they will upgrade the video capabilities of their DSLRs, even if those will still not be at professional level.

Yep, the Theta V was 4K capable, and was released over 2 years ago.

It's not just about the resolution though, it's the basics such as giving it enough bitrate to be able to describe a scene without having to get blocky if there's too much movement etc.
Personally I'd love to see real mechanical stabilisation return, focus peaking that worked during video capture to aid manual focus, and others would like a clean video out so they can use an external capture device instead.

Pentax Video conversations don't have to be a black and white as Pentaxians typically try to make it. You don't have to turn out a 'professional' video camera or nothing at all.
All Pentax bodies have had video capabilities for the last 10 years or so, so video isn't a new thing and it's not right to say Pentax doesn't do video when it clearly does (and shock horror some Pentax Users use it

)
There is a market for those same Pentax plus features (ergonomics, ruggedised weather sealing etc) for use in video as well as stills.

This new camera is going to be a 2020 release, and to still be offering 2012 level video is just embarrassing and limiting for those who do want to be able to use their Pentax bodies and lenses for better quality video than they currently can.
Given developments in general base processing capabilities, I'd be disappointed if the same video offering was rammed into this new camera. Doesn't need to be professional level at all, but does need to be better than what they're currently offering.

---------- Post added 10-02-19 at 11:16 AM ----------

Originally posted by Mikesul

Weren't the screw drive lenses just refreshes of old lenses? It is very likely that all truly new lenses will be in-lens motor driven.

Yeah there has been discussion around how much better then Pentax focusing system can get with the legacy screw drive approach.
It's likely the best performing lenses will be the newer style with their own focusing motor built in.

deus ursus · 10-01-2019, 03:44 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by monochrome

There are even mundane needs for 10fps. My KP is good, but 10 would be better.

It isn't great unless it goes to 11.

**ehrwien** · 10-01-2019, 03:51 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by deus ursus

It isn't great unless it goes to 11.

Why don't you just make 10 better and make 10 be the top number and make that a little better?

**TwoUptons** · 10-01-2019, 04:01 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by ehrwien

Why don't you just make 10 better and make 10 be the top number and make that a little better?

... this one goes to 11.

-Eric

Bromberger · 10-01-2019, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by TwoUptons

... this one goes to 11.

-Eric

makes sense

**PJ1** · 10-01-2019, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by dan.a.nesheim

eaving the button blank until the camera is released... wouldn't want to waste that free media coverage.We'll just have to be patient.

That is a very good point. Ricoh/Pentax are being very secretive for a good reason. Almost every other new body I can recall had reams of speculation about features before it was released. Some of the speculation was soundly based, some was wishful thinking, and some was negativity. This time there is nothing. That should ensure maximum impact.

**clickclick** · 10-01-2019, 06:45 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

"Won't Start"

have we come full circle back to Fords?

**clickclick** · 10-01-2019, 06:59 PM

Any speculation on battery type? It would be nice if the Li-90 works.

Sandy Hancock · 10-01-2019, 07:48 PM

I would be shocked if it didn't take the D-Li90.

**Kobie** · 10-01-2019, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

I would be shocked if it didn't take the D-Li90.

It better take the K-3 grip too! Lol

**alfa75ts** · 10-01-2019, 08:03 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kobie

It better take the K-3 grip too! Lol

I'd take bets that it won't.

10-01-2019, 03:15 PM - 2 Likes	#1520
richandfleur Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand Photos: Albums Posts: 1,788	Originally posted by Bromberger Hasn't Ricoh developed 4k video capabilites when they needed it for the Theta V? I thought maybe the Theta was a sign that they will upgrade the video capabilities of their DSLRs, even if those will still not be at professional level. Yep, the Theta V was 4K capable, and was released over 2 years ago. It's not just about the resolution though, it's the basics such as giving it enough bitrate to be able to describe a scene without having to get blocky if there's too much movement etc. Personally I'd love to see real mechanical stabilisation return, focus peaking that worked during video capture to aid manual focus, and others would like a clean video out so they can use an external capture device instead. Pentax Video conversations don't have to be a black and white as Pentaxians typically try to make it. You don't have to turn out a 'professional' video camera or nothing at all. All Pentax bodies have had video capabilities for the last 10 years or so, so video isn't a new thing and it's not right to say Pentax doesn't do video when it clearly does (and shock horror some Pentax Users use it ) There is a market for those same Pentax plus features (ergonomics, ruggedised weather sealing etc) for use in video as well as stills. This new camera is going to be a 2020 release, and to still be offering 2012 level video is just embarrassing and limiting for those who do want to be able to use their Pentax bodies and lenses for better quality video than they currently can. Given developments in general base processing capabilities, I'd be disappointed if the same video offering was rammed into this new camera. Doesn't need to be professional level at all, but does need to be better than what they're currently offering. ---------- Post added 10-02-19 at 11:16 AM ---------- Originally posted by Mikesul Weren't the screw drive lenses just refreshes of old lenses? It is very likely that all truly new lenses will be in-lens motor driven. Yeah there has been discussion around how much better then Pentax focusing system can get with the legacy screw drive approach. It's likely the best performing lenses will be the newer style with their own focusing motor built in. Last edited by richandfleur; 10-01-2019 at 03:50 PM.

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10-01-2019, 02:23 PM	#1516
MatKus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 155	Originally posted by reh321 Focus Motor will become decreasingly important as they issue more and more lenses with in-lens motor. We had recently 2 "new" screwdrive lenses and 1 with in-lens motor. If they will go this way, I'm not so sure if focis motor will be less important in near future. ;-)

10-01-2019, 02:31 PM	#1517
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by MatKus We had recently 2 "new" screwdrive lenses and 1 with in-lens motor. If they will go this way, I'm not so sure if focis motor will be less important in near future. ;-) Weren't the screw drive lenses just refreshes of old lenses? It is very likely that all truly new lenses will be in-lens motor driven.

10-01-2019, 02:31 PM	#1518
dan.a.nesheim Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Photos: Gallery Posts: 167	Originally posted by Bromberger Pentax's new cameras always introduce one feature that is innovative (like pixelshift or the k1's screen mechanism), so that all photo gear media have to report on it. Pentax can't afford advertising, but this way, they get attention for their new camera for free.And so, of course they are leaving the button blank until the camera is released... wouldn't want to waste that free media coverage.We'll just have to be patient. Good point.

10-01-2019, 02:33 PM	#1519
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Originally posted by Mikesul Weren't the screw drive lenses just refreshes of old lenses? It is very likely that all truly new lenses will be in-lens motor driven. Yeah, the FA 35 and DA 10-17.

10-01-2019, 03:44 PM - 3 Likes	#1521
deus ursus Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Stårheim, Norway Posts: 658	Originally posted by monochrome There are even mundane needs for 10fps. My KP is good, but 10 would be better. It isn't great unless it goes to 11.

10-01-2019, 03:51 PM - 2 Likes	#1522
ehrwien Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 2,782	Originally posted by deus ursus It isn't great unless it goes to 11. Why don't you just make 10 better and make 10 be the top number and make that a little better?

10-01-2019, 04:01 PM - 3 Likes	#1523
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,213	Originally posted by ehrwien Why don't you just make 10 better and make 10 be the top number and make that a little better? ... this one goes to 11. -Eric

10-01-2019, 04:37 PM	#1524
Bromberger Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 186	Originally posted by TwoUptons ... this one goes to 11. -Eric makes sense

10-01-2019, 05:14 PM	#1525
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,484	Originally posted by dan.a.nesheim eaving the button blank until the camera is released... wouldn't want to waste that free media coverage.We'll just have to be patient. That is a very good point. Ricoh/Pentax are being very secretive for a good reason. Almost every other new body I can recall had reams of speculation about features before it was released. Some of the speculation was soundly based, some was wishful thinking, and some was negativity. This time there is nothing. That should ensure maximum impact.

10-01-2019, 06:45 PM - 3 Likes	#1526
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	Originally posted by Kunzite "Won't Start" have we come full circle back to Fords?

10-01-2019, 06:59 PM	#1527
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	Any speculation on battery type? It would be nice if the Li-90 works.

10-01-2019, 07:48 PM	#1528
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	I would be shocked if it didn't take the D-Li90.

10-01-2019, 07:49 PM	#1529
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock I would be shocked if it didn't take the D-Li90. It better take the K-3 grip too! Lol

10-01-2019, 08:03 PM - 1 Like	#1530
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Originally posted by Kobie It better take the K-3 grip too! Lol I'd take bets that it won't.