New K-series DSLR under development to be exhibited

house · 10-08-2019, 11:00 AM

Has anyone done a tally and compared to the buttons on other Pentax cameras? Are any buttons existing on previous models missing?

MikeyBugs95 · 10-08-2019, 11:11 AM

Well I count 20 buttons including the shutter button and the d-pad on the shown prototype.

21 on the K-1 including the GPS button.

19 on the K-3II.

gatorguy · 10-08-2019, 12:46 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by solitudebound

I was initially considering a Nikon D6 but with the computer workstation/server upgrade. I am more inclined to go for one of this new model Pentax. Since i use my K200d often i don't really feel the need for a tilty screen and besides i made a hinged mirror with small mirrors form aliexpress that sticks to velcro over the rear lcd. Two mirrors makes it more of less a canon like flip screen. No touch screen just a poor mans periscope but hey it works

Creative solution, and a money saving one a that! Well done sir.

So here's challenge 2:
So what can you build with a paperclip and a bottle cap?

solitudebound · 10-08-2019, 12:59 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gatorguy

Creative solution, and a money saving one a that! Well done sir.

So here's challenge 2:
So what can you build with a paperclip and a bottle cap?

Mini directional wifi antenna. That's what.

MacGyver - My Trusty Paperclip - YouTube

MMVIII · 10-08-2019, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Class A

Perhaps the mystery button is "just" for cycling through

touch-sensitivity for the screen is off
touch-sensitivity for the screen is sensor-controlled
touch-sensitivity for the screen is on

?

Doesn't it miss a Wifi button and also a GPS button? Not that both might not be catered by the [Fn+right wheel] combination, but still

tvdtvdtvd · 10-08-2019, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by phoebus

It is the LV button on the K1

I am aware of that......

Originally posted by phoebus

The K1 playback button is in a much better place, (in my opinion) as it can be selected by the thumb of the hand holding the camera.

I've actually never had issue with the Playback at Top Left. With the camera firmly gripped with the right hand it's very easy to use the left
hand to press Playback. I've done it so often that it is now automatic and I don't have to look or even really think about it, it's all muscle memory.

Honestly, the position on the K-1 >looks< like a worse place, as it would require the camera to be held with the left hand while the thumb of the right hand is
lifted to press the button. Mind you, that's simply based on visual observation because I don't have a K-1.

Sandy Hancock · 10-08-2019, 02:19 PM - **1 Like**

Maybe it's a release button for the interchangeable viewfinder, a la LX.

tvdtvdtvd · 10-08-2019, 02:23 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by MikeyBugs95

Well I count 20 buttons including the shutter button and the d-pad on the shown prototype.

21 on the K-1 including the GPS button.

19 on the K-3II.

Ah HA! So the mystery button, the 20th on the K-new, activates a summary on the screen reminding you that, while it is an upgrade over the K-3ii,
it still isn't as fancy pants as the FF K-1.

reh321 · 10-08-2019, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

I am aware of that......

I've actually never had issue with the Playback at Top Left. With the camera firmly gripped with the right hand it's very easy to use the left
hand to press Playback. I've done it so often that it is now automatic and I don't have to look or even really think about it, it's all muscle memory.

Honestly, the position on the K-1 >looks< like a worse place, as it would require the camera to be held with the left hand while the thumb of the right hand is
lifted to press the button.

Why is there anything wrong with holding the camera with your left hand?

Quote:

Mind you, that's simply based on visual observation because I don't have a K-1.

I don't have a K-1 either, but trying just now with my KP having a 55-300mm + 1.4X TC attached, I seem to hold it with both hands {left hand on lens} while pressing the "playback" button, but I believe I could handle it with just left hand on back part of lens next to body.

tvdtvdtvd · 10-08-2019, 03:25 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by reh321

Why is there anything wrong with holding the camera with your left hand?

Nothing, 'cept that the grip is on the right. So I am always holding the camera securely with my right hand while my left is free
for accessory actions, like pressing the Playback button. Again, just muscle memory more than anything else.

For example, it is possible to hold a beer and press Playback with left hand without dropping camera or beer. If I have to
grab the camera with my left hand in order to press the Playback button with my right thumb, that will mean putting down
the beer first.

The key difference is I >always< have my right hand on the camera, while the left is only used for stabilizing while taking
a shot.

wrbrim · 10-08-2019, 03:57 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Maybe it's a release button for the interchangeable viewfinder, a la LX.

I propose it is the "voice activation" button - to allow your camera to listen to you.

MikeyBugs95 · 10-08-2019, 03:57 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

Nothing, 'cept that the grip is on the right. So I am always holding the camera securely with my right hand while my left is free
for accessory actions, like pressing the Playback button. Again, just muscle memory more than anything else.

For example, it is possible to hold a beer and press Playback with left hand without dropping camera or beer. If I have to
grab the camera with my left hand in order to press the Playback button with my right thumb, that will mean putting down
the beer first.

The key difference is I >always< have my right hand on the camera, while the left is only used for stabilizing while taking
a shot.

But who drinks beer and does photography at the same time?

**luftfluss** · 10-08-2019, 04:02 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by MikeyBugs95

But who drinks beer and does photography at the same time?

Who doesn't?

MarkJerling · 10-08-2019, 04:23 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by MikeyBugs95

But who drinks beer and does photography at the same time?

Well, the weather-sealing has to be good for something!

**Larrymc** · 10-08-2019, 04:48 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

I've actually never had issue with the Playback at Top Left. With the camera firmly gripped with the right hand it's very easy to use the left
hand to press Playback. I've done it so often that it is now automatic and I don't have to look or even really think about it, it's all muscle memory.

I'm with you on the K-3 playback button very conveniently placed and easy to manipulate like you described!

10-08-2019, 11:11 AM	#2342
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Well I count 20 buttons including the shutter button and the d-pad on the shown prototype. 21 on the K-1 including the GPS button. 19 on the K-3II. Last edited by MikeyBugs95; 10-08-2019 at 12:58 PM.

10-08-2019, 01:04 PM	#2345
MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,121	Originally posted by Class A Perhaps the mystery button is "just" for cycling through touch-sensitivity for the screen is off touch-sensitivity for the screen is sensor-controlled touch-sensitivity for the screen is on ? Doesn't it miss a Wifi button and also a GPS button? Not that both might not be catered by the [Fn+right wheel] combination, but still

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10-08-2019, 11:00 AM	#2341
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Has anyone done a tally and compared to the buttons on other Pentax cameras? Are any buttons existing on previous models missing?

10-08-2019, 12:46 PM - 1 Like	#2343
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,094	Originally posted by solitudebound I was initially considering a Nikon D6 but with the computer workstation/server upgrade. I am more inclined to go for one of this new model Pentax. Since i use my K200d often i don't really feel the need for a tilty screen and besides i made a hinged mirror with small mirrors form aliexpress that sticks to velcro over the rear lcd. Two mirrors makes it more of less a canon like flip screen. No touch screen just a poor mans periscope but hey it works Creative solution, and a money saving one a that! Well done sir. So here's challenge 2: So what can you build with a paperclip and a bottle cap?

10-08-2019, 12:59 PM - 1 Like	#2344
solitudebound Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 140	Originally posted by gatorguy Creative solution, and a money saving one a that! Well done sir. So here's challenge 2: So what can you build with a paperclip and a bottle cap? Mini directional wifi antenna. That's what. MacGyver - My Trusty Paperclip - YouTube

10-08-2019, 01:54 PM	#2346
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by phoebus It is the LV button on the K1 I am aware of that...... Originally posted by phoebus The K1 playback button is in a much better place, (in my opinion) as it can be selected by the thumb of the hand holding the camera. I've actually never had issue with the Playback at Top Left. With the camera firmly gripped with the right hand it's very easy to use the left hand to press Playback. I've done it so often that it is now automatic and I don't have to look or even really think about it, it's all muscle memory. Honestly, the position on the K-1 >looks< like a worse place, as it would require the camera to be held with the left hand while the thumb of the right hand is lifted to press the button. Mind you, that's simply based on visual observation because I don't have a K-1.

10-08-2019, 02:19 PM - 1 Like	#2347
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Maybe it's a release button for the interchangeable viewfinder, a la LX.

10-08-2019, 02:23 PM - 4 Likes	#2348
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by MikeyBugs95 Well I count 20 buttons including the shutter button and the d-pad on the shown prototype. 21 on the K-1 including the GPS button. 19 on the K-3II. Ah HA! So the mystery button, the 20th on the K-new, activates a summary on the screen reminding you that, while it is an upgrade over the K-3ii, it still isn't as fancy pants as the FF K-1.

10-08-2019, 02:24 PM	#2349
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd I am aware of that...... I've actually never had issue with the Playback at Top Left. With the camera firmly gripped with the right hand it's very easy to use the left hand to press Playback. I've done it so often that it is now automatic and I don't have to look or even really think about it, it's all muscle memory. Honestly, the position on the K-1 >looks< like a worse place, as it would require the camera to be held with the left hand while the thumb of the right hand is lifted to press the button. Why is there anything wrong with holding the camera with your left hand? Quote: Mind you, that's simply based on visual observation because I don't have a K-1. I don't have a K-1 either, but trying just now with my KP having a 55-300mm + 1.4X TC attached, I seem to hold it with both hands {left hand on lens} while pressing the "playback" button, but I believe I could handle it with just left hand on back part of lens next to body.

10-08-2019, 03:25 PM - 1 Like	#2350
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by reh321 Why is there anything wrong with holding the camera with your left hand? Nothing, 'cept that the grip is on the right. So I am always holding the camera securely with my right hand while my left is free for accessory actions, like pressing the Playback button. Again, just muscle memory more than anything else. For example, it is possible to hold a beer and press Playback with left hand without dropping camera or beer. If I have to grab the camera with my left hand in order to press the Playback button with my right thumb, that will mean putting down the beer first. The key difference is I >always< have my right hand on the camera, while the left is only used for stabilizing while taking a shot.

10-08-2019, 03:57 PM - 1 Like	#2351
wrbrim Guest	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Maybe it's a release button for the interchangeable viewfinder, a la LX. I propose it is the "voice activation" button - to allow your camera to listen to you.

10-08-2019, 03:57 PM - 1 Like	#2352
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd Nothing, 'cept that the grip is on the right. So I am always holding the camera securely with my right hand while my left is free for accessory actions, like pressing the Playback button. Again, just muscle memory more than anything else. For example, it is possible to hold a beer and press Playback with left hand without dropping camera or beer. If I have to grab the camera with my left hand in order to press the Playback button with my right thumb, that will mean putting down the beer first. The key difference is I >always< have my right hand on the camera, while the left is only used for stabilizing while taking a shot. But who drinks beer and does photography at the same time?

10-08-2019, 04:02 PM - 4 Likes	#2353
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	Originally posted by MikeyBugs95 But who drinks beer and does photography at the same time? Who doesn't?

10-08-2019, 04:23 PM - 3 Likes	#2354
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,421	Originally posted by MikeyBugs95 But who drinks beer and does photography at the same time? Well, the weather-sealing has to be good for something!

10-08-2019, 04:48 PM - 1 Like	#2355
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd I've actually never had issue with the Playback at Top Left. With the camera firmly gripped with the right hand it's very easy to use the left hand to press Playback. I've done it so often that it is now automatic and I don't have to look or even really think about it, it's all muscle memory. I'm with you on the K-3 playback button very conveniently placed and easy to manipulate like you described!