New K-series DSLR under development to be exhibited

nnky · 10-15-2019, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

The touch screen of the Ricoh GR III is asymmetrical as well.

The machine shown is not the final version，just one of many models.

Kunzite · 10-15-2019, 01:53 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by crash82

Has anyone ever heard of it?

I'm hearing such "rumors" almost daily, for the last decades.
Why did you link to that troll's thread?

**Serkevan** · 10-15-2019, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by nnky

The machine shown is not the final version，just one of many models.

Any source on that? I am also inclined to think that some parts look slightly unfinished but I unless we have Ricoh confirmation, this is just speculation.

**Rondec** · 10-15-2019, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Any source on that? I am also inclined to think that some parts look slightly unfinished but I unless we have Ricoh confirmation, this is just speculation.

I thought they said that there were four prototypes. My impression was they were all exactly the same, but I suppose there could be slight differences between them.

nnky · 10-15-2019, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Any source on that? I am also inclined to think that some parts look slightly unfinished but I unless we have Ricoh confirmation, this is just speculation.

source from PENTAX 100 meeting in Japan.

Mistral75 · 10-15-2019, 02:23 AM

I've heard of three but this doesn't make a big difference. One copy is currently showcased in Japan and another one touring France.

**Serkevan** · 10-15-2019, 02:28 AM

Yeah, my understanding from the pictures is that the units doing the rounds are identical.

Zooland · 10-15-2019, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by crash82

R.I.P. Pentax (The Nikon Z50 marks the end of Pentax: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review).

Recently there was an unconfirmed rumour that Ricoh had bought the technical stuff, but that the rights to the name Pentax would remain with Hoya and that Ricoh only has them until 2020, so there are no new Pentax cameras anymore because Ricoh will soon not be able to call them Pentax anymore.
Has anyone ever heard of it

Ricoh owns the Pentax imaging division outright and have paid Hoya $124 million.
This rumour has is completely false and has no basis whatsoever.

Mistral75 · 10-15-2019, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by Zooland

Ricoh owns the Pentax imaging division outright and have paid Hoya $124 million.
This rumour has is completely false and has no basis whatsoever.

However they did not purchase the Pentax brand / trademark, only the right to use it (licence agreement), the sources of this being the World Intellectual Property Organization and their own statement.

Not a Number · 10-15-2019, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

However they did not purchase the Pentax brand / trademark, only the right to use it (licence agreement), the sources of this being the World Intellectual Property Organization and their own statement.

See this article:
Dispelling a rumor: on Ricoh's use of the Pentax name - Photo Industry News | PentaxForums.com

Mistral75 · 10-15-2019, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by Not a Number

See this article:
Dispelling a rumor: on Ricoh's use of the Pentax name - Photo Industry News | PentaxForums.com

In what does this article differ from what I wrote?

I wrote, quoting the very same report:

Originally posted by Mistral75

Ricoh have confirmed that Hoya are the holder of the registration of the Pentax trademark but they stated they would keep the right to use it after 2020.

Originally posted by Ricoh:

'No, [the rumor] is not a fact.

Hoya is the owner of the PENTAX trademark, but there are no restrictions or limitations attached for RICOH to use the PENTAX brand in the camera business.

We will continue to offer the PENTAX brand products including new items.'

Source: Ricoh denies rumors it will lose the right to use the Pentax brand name | Digital Photography Review

then:

Originally posted by Mistral75

However they did not purchase the Pentax brand / trademark, only the right to use it (licence agreement), the sources of this being the World Intellectual Property Organization and their own statement.

and Ricoh stated that:

Originally posted by Ricoh:

"This is not a fact at all. It is true that Hoya is the owner of the PENTAX trademark, but there are no restrictions or limitations for Ricoh to use the Pentax brand in the camera business. We will continue to offer the Pentax brand cameras beyond 2020."

So?

Not a Number · 10-15-2019, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

In what does this article differ from what I wrote?

Just adding backup to your statement, no need to get snippy about it.

Mistral75 · 10-15-2019, 03:35 AM

My apologies if I sounded snippy but I didn't understand what you meant by quoting the same report as me a few posts before yours.

JPT · 10-15-2019, 03:42 AM - **3 Likes**

And if you don’t like trusting Ricoh’s statements that they will continue to make Pentax cameras, you could look at their actions.

- They released Pentax branded products as recently as this summer
- They exhibited a future product that clearly has Pentax branding
- They are putting quite a lot of marketing effort into promoting 100 years of Pentax

None of this is consistent with discontinuing use of the brand name.

totsmuyco · 10-15-2019, 04:31 AM

True @JPT. Who in there right mind would introduce new lenses and a new camera and just call it quits. The cost for manufacturing and releasing new stuff costs millions. It's absurd to just throw in the towel after such investments.

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10-15-2019, 01:42 AM	#2716
nnky Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 29	Originally posted by Mistral75 The touch screen of the Ricoh GR III is asymmetrical as well. The machine shown is not the final version，just one of many models.

10-15-2019, 01:53 AM - 1 Like	#2717
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by crash82 Has anyone ever heard of it? I'm hearing such "rumors" almost daily, for the last decades. Why did you link to that troll's thread?

10-15-2019, 01:54 AM	#2718
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by nnky The machine shown is not the final version，just one of many models. Any source on that? I am also inclined to think that some parts look slightly unfinished but I unless we have Ricoh confirmation, this is just speculation.

10-15-2019, 02:20 AM	#2719
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	Originally posted by Serkevan Any source on that? I am also inclined to think that some parts look slightly unfinished but I unless we have Ricoh confirmation, this is just speculation. I thought they said that there were four prototypes. My impression was they were all exactly the same, but I suppose there could be slight differences between them.

10-15-2019, 02:21 AM	#2720
nnky Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 29	Originally posted by Serkevan Any source on that? I am also inclined to think that some parts look slightly unfinished but I unless we have Ricoh confirmation, this is just speculation. source from PENTAX 100 meeting in Japan.

10-15-2019, 02:23 AM	#2721
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	I've heard of three but this doesn't make a big difference. One copy is currently showcased in Japan and another one touring France.

10-15-2019, 02:28 AM	#2722
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Yeah, my understanding from the pictures is that the units doing the rounds are identical.

10-15-2019, 02:35 AM	#2723
Zooland Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 370	Originally posted by crash82 R.I.P. Pentax (The Nikon Z50 marks the end of Pentax: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review). Recently there was an unconfirmed rumour that Ricoh had bought the technical stuff, but that the rights to the name Pentax would remain with Hoya and that Ricoh only has them until 2020, so there are no new Pentax cameras anymore because Ricoh will soon not be able to call them Pentax anymore. Has anyone ever heard of it Ricoh owns the Pentax imaging division outright and have paid Hoya $124 million. This rumour has is completely false and has no basis whatsoever.

10-15-2019, 02:50 AM	#2724
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Zooland Ricoh owns the Pentax imaging division outright and have paid Hoya $124 million. This rumour has is completely false and has no basis whatsoever. However they did not purchase the Pentax brand / trademark, only the right to use it (licence agreement), the sources of this being the World Intellectual Property Organization and their own statement.

10-15-2019, 02:57 AM	#2725
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Originally posted by Mistral75 However they did not purchase the Pentax brand / trademark, only the right to use it (licence agreement), the sources of this being the World Intellectual Property Organization and their own statement. See this article: Dispelling a rumor: on Ricoh's use of the Pentax name - Photo Industry News \| PentaxForums.com

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10-15-2019, 03:16 AM	#2726
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Not a Number See this article: Dispelling a rumor: on Ricoh's use of the Pentax name - Photo Industry News \| PentaxForums.com In what does this article differ from what I wrote? I wrote, quoting the very same report: Originally posted by Mistral75 Ricoh have confirmed that Hoya are the holder of the registration of the Pentax trademark but they stated they would keep the right to use it after 2020. Originally posted by Ricoh: 'No, [the rumor] is not a fact. Hoya is the owner of the PENTAX trademark, but there are no restrictions or limitations attached for RICOH to use the PENTAX brand in the camera business. We will continue to offer the PENTAX brand products including new items.' Source: Ricoh denies rumors it will lose the right to use the Pentax brand name \| Digital Photography Review then: Originally posted by Mistral75 However they did not purchase the Pentax brand / trademark, only the right to use it (licence agreement), the sources of this being the World Intellectual Property Organization and their own statement. and Ricoh stated that: Originally posted by Ricoh: "This is not a fact at all. It is true that Hoya is the owner of the PENTAX trademark, but there are no restrictions or limitations for Ricoh to use the Pentax brand in the camera business. We will continue to offer the Pentax brand cameras beyond 2020." So?

10-15-2019, 03:24 AM	#2727
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Originally posted by Mistral75 In what does this article differ from what I wrote? Just adding backup to your statement, no need to get snippy about it.

10-15-2019, 03:42 AM - 3 Likes	#2729
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	And if you don’t like trusting Ricoh’s statements that they will continue to make Pentax cameras, you could look at their actions. - They released Pentax branded products as recently as this summer - They exhibited a future product that clearly has Pentax branding - They are putting quite a lot of marketing effort into promoting 100 years of Pentax None of this is consistent with discontinuing use of the brand name.

10-15-2019, 04:31 AM	#2730
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	True @JPT. Who in there right mind would introduce new lenses and a new camera and just call it quits. The cost for manufacturing and releasing new stuff costs millions. It's absurd to just throw in the towel after such investments.