New K-series DSLR under development to be exhibited

tvdtvdtvd · 10-15-2019, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by MikeyBugs95

I'm actually strongly considering making a copy post of his post in the Nikon forum about the Z50. How the Z50 is DOA and all...

Just need the time.

I approve.

yorik · 10-15-2019, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

The MZ-1 is a professional SLR which should have been released in the late 1990s.

The FA Limited lenses were designed for the MZ-1 as well as for the 24x36 DSLR, the internal codename of which was MR-52 and the unofficial trade name MZ-D.

Pentax spent a fortune in the development of the MR-52 / MZ-D, much more than expected. A rough prototype was presented at Photokina 2000 and a more advanced version at PMA 2001 but the camera was eventually cancelled in October 2001 because of its expensive, energy inefficient and poorly performing Philips CCD sensor (which made it into the poorly received Contax N Digital that Kyocera persisted in launching, which accelerated the demise of Contax).

Given the budget overruns of the MR-52 project, the MZ-1 project had been stopped. Later on, what could be reused from the development of the MZ-D made it into the quickly-designed MZ-S.

So... Mark II?

repaap · 10-15-2019, 11:54 AM - **1 Like**

hard to believe that Pentax is going anywhere anytime soon. This chitchat has been going on for ages now.

MikeyBugs95 · 10-15-2019, 12:05 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Serkevan

Nikon has never really bothered to do any serious development of their APS-C digital line, *particularly* on the lens front. This Z50 is wholly unsurprising, coming from them:

"Here, a cheaper body because FF is very expensive. Also, here are the two kit zooms, the 18-250ish superzoom, maybe one UWA zoom and a 35/1.8 prime. Y'all don't need anything else or you would be shooting FF".

---------- Post added 10-15-19 at 11:00 AM ----------

I thought people couldn't get more boneheaded than in some of the MMO/online games I've been in. I was swiftly proven wrong by how... passionate* the photography community can be. This is the console wars of "Sega does what Nintendon't" all over again! [Grabs lotsa popcorn].

*Passionate is the least offensive and most moderator-friendly euphemism I could come up with.

Frankly, I'd just be doing it because I can't stand how people come into different forums to tell those people how their brand is dying and they should completely abandon ship. So more of a parody (and to just call him out not by name) than anything else.

**Serkevan** · 10-15-2019, 12:34 PM - **2 Likes**

No sure, it's all in good fun. It's just that I really, really don't get why people get so defensive and mad about a tool. Cameras are nothing else. My Pentax does what I want it to do, my girlfriend's Canon does what she wants to do. Would we be happy with each other's cameras? Not necessarily. Do we wish for the cameras to be better? You bet, but money is money and we're not rich. She is with Canon because she had the opportunity to get very decent gear for very little money, I am with Pentax because I have always liked fiddling and tough builds so Pentax allowed me to try a dozen vintage lenses mounted on a tank of a camera like the K-7 while spending very little money at a time where I didn't know whether I would even like photography. And now we are mostly satisfied with what we have. Let's be honest, it's very difficult for most of us to be objectively let down by any given camera brand these days.

Not in my wildest dreams would I ever mock anyone for their brand choices... our photography Whatsapp group has 4 friends who shoot 4 different brands. One even has actual reasons to shoot Sony crop cameras!

(He hikes a lot, like seriously a lot, and I can understand that having a NEX-6 plus 16-50 and 55-210 lenses for less than what my K-1 without battery weighs is a blessing there).

**monochrome** · 10-15-2019, 12:56 PM - **1 Like**

You’d have no problem touting DuraMax on a Ford Forum then?

Originally posted by Serkevan

No sure, it's all in good fun. It's just that I really, really don't get why people get so defensive and mad about a tool. Cameras are nothing else. My Pentax does what I want it to do, my girlfriend's Canon does what she wants to do. Would we be happy with each other's cameras? Not necessarily. Do we wish for the cameras to be better? You bet, but money is money and we're not rich. She is with Canon because she had the opportunity to get very decent gear for very little money, I am with Pentax because I have always liked fiddling and tough builds so Pentax allowed me to try a dozen vintage lenses mounted on a tank of a camera like the K-7 while spending very little money at a time where I didn't know whether I would even like photography. And now we are mostly satisfied with what we have. Let's be honest, it's very difficult for most of us to be objectively let down by any given camera brand these days.

Not in my wildest dreams would I ever mock anyone for their brand choices... our photography Whatsapp group has 4 friends who shoot 4 different brands. One even has actual reasons to shoot Sony crop cameras!

(He hikes a lot, like seriously a lot, and I can understand that having a NEX-6 plus 16-50 and 55-210 lenses for less than what my K-1 without battery weighs is a blessing there).

MikeyBugs95 · 10-15-2019, 01:48 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by monochrome

You’d have no problem touting DuraMax on a Ford Forum then?

Honestly, if they're saying "Hey, I like this and here's why, you go make your own choices," it's reasonable but to say "This new thing was just released! It's the utter end of your chosen brand! Drop it before it goes under!" is just not cool.

**mlt** · 10-15-2019, 02:00 PM - **1 Like**

But they’re the place to go for the snc-ites that are swayed by the ‘Ooh, a new shiny thing - must have, everything else is old and must be discarded’ philosophy.

**Mikesul** · 10-15-2019, 02:30 PM

What is a snc-ite?

MarkJerling · 10-15-2019, 02:38 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by yorik

So... Mark II?

You called?

**Serkevan** · 10-15-2019, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

You’d have no problem touting DuraMax on a Ford Forum then?

I wouldn't go to a Ford forum in the first place. I also wouldn't be mad if a Ford guy came to me and said "Cool VW! My car is this and that", then we could chat about it.

MikeyBugs95 · 10-15-2019, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

What is a snc-ite?

I think Sony/Nikon/Canon

**mlt** · 10-15-2019, 02:51 PM

Sony/Nikon/Canon user - will try not to abbreviate in future

**BigMackCam** · 10-15-2019, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

What is a snc-ite?

Someone who favours snc, I believe...

Oh, wait, the question was already answered

**Belnan** · 10-15-2019, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

Nah, it can't touch the "Why I won't buy a K-3" thread 4,721 and rolling on along.

I totally forgot about that one.

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10-15-2019, 11:08 AM	#2746
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by MikeyBugs95 I'm actually strongly considering making a copy post of his post in the Nikon forum about the Z50. How the Z50 is DOA and all... Just need the time. I approve.

10-15-2019, 11:47 AM	#2747
yorik Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotts Valley, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 991	Originally posted by Mistral75 The MZ-1 is a professional SLR which should have been released in the late 1990s. The FA Limited lenses were designed for the MZ-1 as well as for the 24x36 DSLR, the internal codename of which was MR-52 and the unofficial trade name MZ-D. Pentax spent a fortune in the development of the MR-52 / MZ-D, much more than expected. A rough prototype was presented at Photokina 2000 and a more advanced version at PMA 2001 but the camera was eventually cancelled in October 2001 because of its expensive, energy inefficient and poorly performing Philips CCD sensor (which made it into the poorly received Contax N Digital that Kyocera persisted in launching, which accelerated the demise of Contax). Given the budget overruns of the MR-52 project, the MZ-1 project had been stopped. Later on, what could be reused from the development of the MZ-D made it into the quickly-designed MZ-S. So... Mark II?

10-15-2019, 11:54 AM - 1 Like	#2748
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	hard to believe that Pentax is going anywhere anytime soon. This chitchat has been going on for ages now.

10-15-2019, 12:05 PM - 2 Likes	#2749
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Originally posted by Serkevan Nikon has never really bothered to do any serious development of their APS-C digital line, particularly on the lens front. This Z50 is wholly unsurprising, coming from them: "Here, a cheaper body because FF is very expensive. Also, here are the two kit zooms, the 18-250ish superzoom, maybe one UWA zoom and a 35/1.8 prime. Y'all don't need anything else or you would be shooting FF". ---------- Post added 10-15-19 at 11:00 AM ---------- I thought people couldn't get more boneheaded than in some of the MMO/online games I've been in. I was swiftly proven wrong by how... passionate* the photography community can be. This is the console wars of "Sega does what Nintendon't" all over again! [Grabs lotsa popcorn]. *Passionate is the least offensive and most moderator-friendly euphemism I could come up with. Frankly, I'd just be doing it because I can't stand how people come into different forums to tell those people how their brand is dying and they should completely abandon ship. So more of a parody (and to just call him out not by name) than anything else.

10-15-2019, 12:34 PM - 2 Likes	#2750
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	No sure, it's all in good fun. It's just that I really, really don't get why people get so defensive and mad about a tool. Cameras are nothing else. My Pentax does what I want it to do, my girlfriend's Canon does what she wants to do. Would we be happy with each other's cameras? Not necessarily. Do we wish for the cameras to be better? You bet, but money is money and we're not rich. She is with Canon because she had the opportunity to get very decent gear for very little money, I am with Pentax because I have always liked fiddling and tough builds so Pentax allowed me to try a dozen vintage lenses mounted on a tank of a camera like the K-7 while spending very little money at a time where I didn't know whether I would even like photography. And now we are mostly satisfied with what we have. Let's be honest, it's very difficult for most of us to be objectively let down by any given camera brand these days. Not in my wildest dreams would I ever mock anyone for their brand choices... our photography Whatsapp group has 4 friends who shoot 4 different brands. One even has actual reasons to shoot Sony crop cameras! (He hikes a lot, like seriously a lot, and I can understand that having a NEX-6 plus 16-50 and 55-210 lenses for less than what my K-1 without battery weighs is a blessing there).

10-15-2019, 12:56 PM - 1 Like	#2751
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	You’d have no problem touting DuraMax on a Ford Forum then? Originally posted by Serkevan No sure, it's all in good fun. It's just that I really, really don't get why people get so defensive and mad about a tool. Cameras are nothing else. My Pentax does what I want it to do, my girlfriend's Canon does what she wants to do. Would we be happy with each other's cameras? Not necessarily. Do we wish for the cameras to be better? You bet, but money is money and we're not rich. She is with Canon because she had the opportunity to get very decent gear for very little money, I am with Pentax because I have always liked fiddling and tough builds so Pentax allowed me to try a dozen vintage lenses mounted on a tank of a camera like the K-7 while spending very little money at a time where I didn't know whether I would even like photography. And now we are mostly satisfied with what we have. Let's be honest, it's very difficult for most of us to be objectively let down by any given camera brand these days. Not in my wildest dreams would I ever mock anyone for their brand choices... our photography Whatsapp group has 4 friends who shoot 4 different brands. One even has actual reasons to shoot Sony crop cameras! (He hikes a lot, like seriously a lot, and I can understand that having a NEX-6 plus 16-50 and 55-210 lenses for less than what my K-1 without battery weighs is a blessing there).

10-15-2019, 01:48 PM - 2 Likes	#2752
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Originally posted by monochrome You’d have no problem touting DuraMax on a Ford Forum then? Honestly, if they're saying "Hey, I like this and here's why, you go make your own choices," it's reasonable but to say "This new thing was just released! It's the utter end of your chosen brand! Drop it before it goes under!" is just not cool.

10-15-2019, 02:00 PM - 1 Like	#2753
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	But they’re the place to go for the snc-ites that are swayed by the ‘Ooh, a new shiny thing - must have, everything else is old and must be discarded’ philosophy.

10-15-2019, 02:30 PM	#2754
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	What is a snc-ite?

10-15-2019, 02:38 PM - 1 Like	#2755
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by yorik So... Mark II? You called?

10-15-2019, 02:45 PM	#2756
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by monochrome You’d have no problem touting DuraMax on a Ford Forum then? I wouldn't go to a Ford forum in the first place. I also wouldn't be mad if a Ford guy came to me and said "Cool VW! My car is this and that", then we could chat about it.

10-15-2019, 02:45 PM	#2757
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Originally posted by Mikesul What is a snc-ite? I think Sony/Nikon/Canon

10-15-2019, 02:51 PM	#2758
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Sony/Nikon/Canon user - will try not to abbreviate in future

10-15-2019, 02:58 PM	#2759
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by Mikesul What is a snc-ite? Someone who favours snc, I believe... Oh, wait, the question was already answered

10-15-2019, 03:07 PM	#2760
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by Larrymc Nah, it can't touch the "Why I won't buy a K-3" thread 4,721 and rolling on along. I totally forgot about that one.