New K-series DSLR under development to be exhibited

**Larrymc** · 11-04-2019, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

Firmer? My K-3ii doesn't have a whole lot of give.

Yeah, who knew the K-3/II was as squishy as it is!!

**monochrome** · 11-04-2019, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

Firmer? My K-3ii doesn't have a whole lot of give.

He probably means the shapes of the body and grip subtlely fit his hands better, allowing a firmer, more comfortable and secure feeling holding the camera. The (too small) size of the K-3 and consequent uncertain “grip” was a factor in my decision to sell mine.

jswilson64 · 11-04-2019, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Larrymc

The final detail is the unlabeled button on the upper left rear of the body and what it actually does.

The bottom is still a mystery right?

taktoon · 11-04-2019, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Larrymc

The final detail is the unlabeled button on the upper left rear of the body and what it actually does.

I hope you are wrong

reh321 · 11-04-2019, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

He probably means the shapes of the body and grip subtlely fit his hands better, allowing a firmer, more comfortable and secure feeling holding the camera. The (too small) size of the K-3 and consequent uncertain “grip” was a factor in my decision to sell mine.

Wow, and here I think that the KP with the smallest grip is on the edge of too large!! Pentax does need to 'fit' all types.

Pentikonian · 11-04-2019, 10:47 AM

Still waiting for facts. Doubtful, but maybe a few will trickle out between now and the official announcement.

For me, how the OVF works with my eyes is going to be a much larger deciding factor than whether or not it has a flippy/ articulating rear LCD.

**monochrome** · 11-04-2019, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Wow, and here I think that the KP with the smallest grip is on the edge of too large!! Pentax does need to 'fit' all types.

KP with Battery Grip and large grip is OK, but that defeats the “compact with pancakes” design ethic. I shoot it for travel and snapshots with the medium grip and just deal with cramped fingers and poor button placement. I have a similar opinion of MX; KX suits me better.

K-1 is just about ideal AFA grip and button placement ergonomics.

Not a Number · 11-04-2019, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by subsea

The top left unlabeled button enables and disables the airbags that protect the camera in the event it's dropped.

The button is a "kill switch". Press it and somebody you don't know dies.

(if you want to spoil it and get to the punchline, jump to 17:18)

You Tube

**Mikesul** · 11-04-2019, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Larrymc

Copy of Tanaka san's blog "Yeah, it was a nice grip. Actually it is not compared with K-3 II, but it has a firmer impression than K-3 II.

　Maybe it will be released with this external design.
　The LCD monitor on the back was a fixed type, so it seems that some people expect that it will be movable in the product version, but there is no hope.

　When I looked closely at the body, the camera name was hidden with black tape. I thought I would peel it off and see it, but I was disappointed when I was disappointed.
　That means that the model name was decided a long time ago".

That certainly is definitive information. He wrote a lot and actually said nothing!

I don't now. I think he said a lot. He doesn't know everything about the camera but he did confirm a few things like the lcd screen. Not what we probably want to hear but he said what he could.

taktoon · 11-04-2019, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

KP with Battery Grip and large grip is OK, but that defeats the “compact with pancakes” design ethic. I shoot it for travel and snapshots with the medium grip and just deal with cramped fingers and poor button placement. I have a similar opinion of MX; KX suits me better.

K-1 is just about ideal AFA grip and button placement ergonomics.

Funny thing. I find my hands not bigger than average and still K-1 grip is to thin and not deep enough for me to be perfectly comfortable. On the other side the grip size/shape is not a deal breaker for me so I bought K-1 and I am happy with it. I try to adapt to cameras grips on different bodies (even Sony a7) and I never had major problems with this. I think I will be totally capable of using a KP if Adam send me one next month.

yorik · 11-04-2019, 11:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Not a Number

The button is a "kill switch". Press it and somebody you don't know dies.

(if you want to spoil it and get to the punchline, jump to 17:18)
Twilight Zone "Button, Button" - YouTube

No.... a rumor button. Press it and you generate two additional unlabeled buttons that each produce two long threads of speculation here. Press either one of the new buttons and you get two more, etc.

enoeske · 11-04-2019, 11:57 AM

I like how tall the K-1 grip is, so my pinky actually has somewhere to go. I like the look of the small grip on the KP, but I've never held it to see if its usable. A combo slightly retro styled camera the height of the K-1 but small grip size of the KP would look really good.

**alfa75ts** · 11-04-2019, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia

'm probably one of the few that doesn't care whether this camera gets a movable LCD screen or not. It's great if it does & it's great if it doesn't. I can use the camera either way. Been doing it forever with a fixed screen K-50 & a fixed screen Sony a200 before that & a fixed screen Canon EOS before that. Hahaha!

My biggest interest is the AF accuracy, AF performance, & 5-axis IBIS that I hope they put in.

Not the only one. With my first SLR the very concept of a screen, let alone a moveable screen, didn't exist. I survived.

**alfa75ts** · 11-04-2019, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

Firmer? My K-3ii doesn't have a whole lot of give.

I suspect he just means that it fits his hand better giving a firmer feel to his grip.

bxf · 11-04-2019, 12:46 PM

All this talk about camera being too small... What did you people do in film days? Just about all non-pro bodies would have been smaller than today's balloons.

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11-04-2019, 10:33 AM	#3286
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by ThorSanchez Firmer? My K-3ii doesn't have a whole lot of give. Yeah, who knew the K-3/II was as squishy as it is!!

11-04-2019, 10:39 AM	#3287
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by ThorSanchez Firmer? My K-3ii doesn't have a whole lot of give. He probably means the shapes of the body and grip subtlely fit his hands better, allowing a firmer, more comfortable and secure feeling holding the camera. The (too small) size of the K-3 and consequent uncertain “grip” was a factor in my decision to sell mine.

11-04-2019, 10:40 AM	#3288
jswilson64 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: wilson_j_s@sbcglobal.net Photos: Albums Posts: 118	Originally posted by Larrymc The final detail is the unlabeled button on the upper left rear of the body and what it actually does. The bottom is still a mystery right?

11-04-2019, 10:44 AM	#3289
taktoon Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 605	Originally posted by Larrymc The final detail is the unlabeled button on the upper left rear of the body and what it actually does. I hope you are wrong

11-04-2019, 10:47 AM	#3290
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,184	Originally posted by monochrome He probably means the shapes of the body and grip subtlely fit his hands better, allowing a firmer, more comfortable and secure feeling holding the camera. The (too small) size of the K-3 and consequent uncertain “grip” was a factor in my decision to sell mine. Wow, and here I think that the KP with the smallest grip is on the edge of too large!! Pentax does need to 'fit' all types.

11-04-2019, 10:47 AM	#3291
Pentikonian Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 780	Still waiting for facts. Doubtful, but maybe a few will trickle out between now and the official announcement. For me, how the OVF works with my eyes is going to be a much larger deciding factor than whether or not it has a flippy/ articulating rear LCD.

11-04-2019, 11:32 AM	#3292
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by reh321 Wow, and here I think that the KP with the smallest grip is on the edge of too large!! Pentax does need to 'fit' all types. KP with Battery Grip and large grip is OK, but that defeats the “compact with pancakes” design ethic. I shoot it for travel and snapshots with the medium grip and just deal with cramped fingers and poor button placement. I have a similar opinion of MX; KX suits me better. K-1 is just about ideal AFA grip and button placement ergonomics.

11-04-2019, 11:48 AM	#3294
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by Larrymc Copy of Tanaka san's blog "Yeah, it was a nice grip. Actually it is not compared with K-3 II, but it has a firmer impression than K-3 II. 　Maybe it will be released with this external design. 　The LCD monitor on the back was a fixed type, so it seems that some people expect that it will be movable in the product version, but there is no hope. 　When I looked closely at the body, the camera name was hidden with black tape. I thought I would peel it off and see it, but I was disappointed when I was disappointed. 　That means that the model name was decided a long time ago". That certainly is definitive information. He wrote a lot and actually said nothing! I don't now. I think he said a lot. He doesn't know everything about the camera but he did confirm a few things like the lcd screen. Not what we probably want to hear but he said what he could.

11-04-2019, 11:54 AM	#3295
taktoon Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 605	Originally posted by monochrome KP with Battery Grip and large grip is OK, but that defeats the “compact with pancakes” design ethic. I shoot it for travel and snapshots with the medium grip and just deal with cramped fingers and poor button placement. I have a similar opinion of MX; KX suits me better. K-1 is just about ideal AFA grip and button placement ergonomics. Funny thing. I find my hands not bigger than average and still K-1 grip is to thin and not deep enough for me to be perfectly comfortable. On the other side the grip size/shape is not a deal breaker for me so I bought K-1 and I am happy with it. I try to adapt to cameras grips on different bodies (even Sony a7) and I never had major problems with this. I think I will be totally capable of using a KP if Adam send me one next month.

11-04-2019, 11:56 AM - 1 Like	#3296
yorik Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotts Valley, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 991	Originally posted by Not a Number The button is a "kill switch". Press it and somebody you don't know dies. (if you want to spoil it and get to the punchline, jump to 17:18) Twilight Zone "Button, Button" - YouTube No.... a rumor button. Press it and you generate two additional unlabeled buttons that each produce two long threads of speculation here. Press either one of the new buttons and you get two more, etc.

11-04-2019, 11:57 AM	#3297
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	I like how tall the K-1 grip is, so my pinky actually has somewhere to go. I like the look of the small grip on the KP, but I've never held it to see if its usable. A combo slightly retro styled camera the height of the K-1 but small grip size of the KP would look really good.

11-04-2019, 12:33 PM	#3298
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia 'm probably one of the few that doesn't care whether this camera gets a movable LCD screen or not. It's great if it does & it's great if it doesn't. I can use the camera either way. Been doing it forever with a fixed screen K-50 & a fixed screen Sony a200 before that & a fixed screen Canon EOS before that. Hahaha! My biggest interest is the AF accuracy, AF performance, & 5-axis IBIS that I hope they put in. Not the only one. With my first SLR the very concept of a screen, let alone a moveable screen, didn't exist. I survived.

11-04-2019, 12:35 PM	#3299
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Originally posted by ThorSanchez Firmer? My K-3ii doesn't have a whole lot of give. I suspect he just means that it fits his hand better giving a firmer feel to his grip.

11-04-2019, 12:46 PM	#3300
bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	All this talk about camera being too small... What did you people do in film days? Just about all non-pro bodies would have been smaller than today's balloons.