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Mistral75 · 11-05-2019, 05:03 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Larrymc

Copy of Tanaka san's blog (...)

　When I looked closely at the body, the camera name was hidden with black tape. I thought I would peel it off and see it, but I was disappointed when I was disappointed.
　That means that the model name was decided a long time ago".[/U]

(...)

The Japanese text means 'I thought I would peel it off to get a peek but I was afraid I would be disappointed [therefore I didn't]'.

Zooland · 11-05-2019, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by agukha

He said disappointed, seeing it was a name chosen a long time ago means it is something already known I think, so it could just be K3-iii.

What if it’s the Pentax K-80, the long awaited K-70 successor?

totsmuyco · 11-05-2019, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by bxf

All this talk about camera being too small... What did you people do in film days? Just about all non-pro bodies would have been smaller than today's balloons.

Originally posted by Zooland

What if it’s the Pentax K-80, the long awaited K-70 successor?

Don't say that. You'll disappoint a lot of people. Most of us are waiting for a k-3II successor.

reh321 · 11-05-2019, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by Zooland

What if it’s the Pentax K-80, the long awaited K-70 successor?

I, personally, have not been awaiting a K-70 successor .... nor do I expect one.

Added: if there were to be one, wouldn’t it be “K-90”?

**MrNPhoto** · 11-05-2019, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by GordonZA

Notice that the memory card door does not have any labels on it. As far as I’m aware all K dslrs have had a label?

Why not go really modern and have plug in SATA SSD drives of varying capacity?

Pentax has often left off the SD labels in pre-production prototypes. Also note there is no label on any of the buttons to indicate card switching (no SD1/2 label). Indeed, the 645D prototypes had tape covering over the SD card labels underneath the top LCD and the SD switching label was not printed next to the DISP button.

There's been no indication Ricoh will switch from SD cards, though UHS-II support would be good, especially if the camera supports 4K video or high FPS.
There's really no room for CFast cards, SATA SSD's like Sony's Atomx are huge by comparison. CFExpress cards use much faster NVMe with XQD form factor. This *might* fit in the new body (esp. if there is only one slot), but again, no indication that Ricoh plans to use anything besides SD cards.

Not a Number · 11-05-2019, 08:41 AM

Ricoh probably hasn't filed for the various certifications yet as it is only a prototype and not meant for sale. That would also explain why the bottom stickers are taped over. It is the filing of these various certifications particularly for wireless protocols that is a major tip off of model number, features and future release dates.

abraxas · 11-05-2019, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Ricoh probably hasn't filed for the various certifications yet as it is only a prototype and not meant for sale. That would also explain why the bottom stickers are taped over. It is the filing of these various certifications particularly for wireless protocols that is a major tip off of model number, features and future release dates.

How can you conclude from the protocol to the model number? Features yes, but not release date and model number.

**mlt** · 11-05-2019, 11:12 AM

Wireless specs are all pretty much the same now, so only the fact that a new device is being registered can be inferred from each agencies listings. Unless, something is getting 5g cellular capabilities. That would point to a flagship device at this time and add significantly to cost - not likely for an APSC body from Pentax

ecostigny · 11-05-2019, 02:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

These film cameras were small and slim because (i) they had no electronics, no motor, no alim, no rear LCD and (ii) their standard lens was a small 50mm, not a zoom, therefore they didn't need a protruding grip.

Film cameras were also somewhat lighter; batteries for the electronics in today's cameras can be quite heavy.

Tesla · 11-05-2019, 03:03 PM

The latest on Pentax Rumors is that the APS-C DSLR won't be announced until Summer 2020. I'm guessing released in time for next holiday season.

**Riggomatic** · 11-05-2019, 03:25 PM

It's too late. The K-nu has already been announced.

yorik · 11-05-2019, 04:50 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Tesla

The latest on Pentax Rumors is that the APS-C DSLR won't be announced until Summer 2020. I'm guessing released in time for next holiday season.

The question is whether the rumors on PR are more reliable than the speculation on PF...

**TwoUptons** · 11-05-2019, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by yorik

The question is whether the rumors on PR are more reliable than the speculation on PF...

While I’m sure there’s plenty to talk about either way, I’d suggest the signal/noise ratio in both cases is impressively low

-Eric

yorik · 11-05-2019, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by TwoUptons

... I’d suggest the signal/noise ratio in both cases is impressively low

-Eric

That's very optimistic.

**mlt** · 11-05-2019, 05:47 PM

Interesting that the someone on the other forums site picked up the PR article as gospel at first look - 5 hours later noted by another as already released followed the topic being locked 12 hours later. Good work people

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11-05-2019, 05:03 AM - 1 Like	#3346
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Larrymc Copy of Tanaka san's blog (...) 　When I looked closely at the body, the camera name was hidden with black tape. I thought I would peel it off and see it, but I was disappointed when I was disappointed. 　That means that the model name was decided a long time ago".[/U] (...) The Japanese text means 'I thought I would peel it off to get a peek but I was afraid I would be disappointed [therefore I didn't]'.

11-05-2019, 05:06 AM	#3347
Zooland Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 370	Originally posted by agukha He said disappointed, seeing it was a name chosen a long time ago means it is something already known I think, so it could just be K3-iii. What if it’s the Pentax K-80, the long awaited K-70 successor?

11-05-2019, 05:55 AM	#3348
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by bxf All this talk about camera being too small... What did you people do in film days? Just about all non-pro bodies would have been smaller than today's balloons. Originally posted by Zooland What if it’s the Pentax K-80, the long awaited K-70 successor? Don't say that. You'll disappoint a lot of people. Most of us are waiting for a k-3II successor.

11-05-2019, 05:56 AM	#3349
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by Zooland What if it’s the Pentax K-80, the long awaited K-70 successor? I, personally, have not been awaiting a K-70 successor .... nor do I expect one. Added: if there were to be one, wouldn’t it be “K-90”?

11-05-2019, 06:07 AM	#3350
MrNPhoto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Boston Photos: Gallery Posts: 276	Originally posted by GordonZA Notice that the memory card door does not have any labels on it. As far as I’m aware all K dslrs have had a label? Why not go really modern and have plug in SATA SSD drives of varying capacity? Pentax has often left off the SD labels in pre-production prototypes. Also note there is no label on any of the buttons to indicate card switching (no SD1/2 label). Indeed, the 645D prototypes had tape covering over the SD card labels underneath the top LCD and the SD switching label was not printed next to the DISP button. There's been no indication Ricoh will switch from SD cards, though UHS-II support would be good, especially if the camera supports 4K video or high FPS. There's really no room for CFast cards, SATA SSD's like Sony's Atomx are huge by comparison. CFExpress cards use much faster NVMe with XQD form factor. This might fit in the new body (esp. if there is only one slot), but again, no indication that Ricoh plans to use anything besides SD cards.

11-05-2019, 08:41 AM	#3351
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Ricoh probably hasn't filed for the various certifications yet as it is only a prototype and not meant for sale. That would also explain why the bottom stickers are taped over. It is the filing of these various certifications particularly for wireless protocols that is a major tip off of model number, features and future release dates.

11-05-2019, 10:21 AM	#3352
abraxas Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 33	Originally posted by Not a Number Ricoh probably hasn't filed for the various certifications yet as it is only a prototype and not meant for sale. That would also explain why the bottom stickers are taped over. It is the filing of these various certifications particularly for wireless protocols that is a major tip off of model number, features and future release dates. How can you conclude from the protocol to the model number? Features yes, but not release date and model number.

11-05-2019, 11:12 AM	#3353
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Wireless specs are all pretty much the same now, so only the fact that a new device is being registered can be inferred from each agencies listings. Unless, something is getting 5g cellular capabilities. That would point to a flagship device at this time and add significantly to cost - not likely for an APSC body from Pentax

11-05-2019, 02:54 PM - 1 Like	#3354
ecostigny Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Branford, CT Posts: 561	Originally posted by Mistral75 These film cameras were small and slim because (i) they had no electronics, no motor, no alim, no rear LCD and (ii) their standard lens was a small 50mm, not a zoom, therefore they didn't need a protruding grip. Film cameras were also somewhat lighter; batteries for the electronics in today's cameras can be quite heavy.

11-05-2019, 03:03 PM	#3355
Tesla Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 589	The latest on Pentax Rumors is that the APS-C DSLR won't be announced until Summer 2020. I'm guessing released in time for next holiday season.

11-05-2019, 03:25 PM	#3356
Riggomatic Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Auburn, Indiana Photos: Albums Posts: 3,886	It's too late. The K-nu has already been announced.

11-05-2019, 04:50 PM - 1 Like	#3357
yorik Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotts Valley, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 991	Originally posted by Tesla The latest on Pentax Rumors is that the APS-C DSLR won't be announced until Summer 2020. I'm guessing released in time for next holiday season. The question is whether the rumors on PR are more reliable than the speculation on PF...

11-05-2019, 04:55 PM	#3358
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,227	Originally posted by yorik The question is whether the rumors on PR are more reliable than the speculation on PF... While I’m sure there’s plenty to talk about either way, I’d suggest the signal/noise ratio in both cases is impressively low -Eric

11-05-2019, 05:00 PM	#3359
yorik Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotts Valley, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 991	Originally posted by TwoUptons ... I’d suggest the signal/noise ratio in both cases is impressively low -Eric That's very optimistic.

11-05-2019, 05:47 PM	#3360
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Interesting that the someone on the other forums site picked up the PR article as gospel at first look - 5 hours later noted by another as already released followed the topic being locked 12 hours later. Good work people

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