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reh321 · 10-02-2019, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by mlt

Does anyone keep track or count how many times they recharge camera batteries? Certainly wouldn’t want my camera to pop a note on screen telling me I’ve reached the recharge count limit

I recharge and inspect batteries on every Monday - so I'll never have one quietly going bad on the shelf.

**kiwi_jono** · 10-02-2019, 12:51 PM

I like that it appears this camera may have mount illumination (by the openings under prism bulge.

Regarding batteries, this all getting a bit off topic but I have not had any batteries fail (or cause camera problems) personally and one of my batteries was manufactured in 2011. I do try to not to store them fully charged (when practical) though - as keeping lithium batteries fully charged ages them faster. That said I have noticed some reduction in capacity however.

**alfa75ts** · 10-02-2019, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by mlt

Does anyone keep track or count how many times they recharge camera batteries?

Counting on my fingers, I get pretty close to 500 partial charges on the somewhat suspect battery.

**monochrome** · 10-02-2019, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by house

Interesting. As previously mentioned it never occured to me. Always felt like they were mechanical engineers first.

Optical engineers, electrical engineers1 and manufacturing process engineere really.. (last is a Ricoh core skill).

1 IBIS / PixelShift is an electromagnetic system rather than a mechanical system

thibs · 10-02-2019, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

I hope we are going back to ancient times, when the K10D was almost in the same class as the D200 but (much) more affordable.

And DPR was already biased against it. I remember clearly.

**Larrymc** · 10-02-2019, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by csa

Nope; count me in, as well. I just don't use all the focus points available.

Who does? They are there if you need them as focus and recompose doesn't always work especially with shallow depths of field.

**Larrymc** · 10-02-2019, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by reh321

So you're saying that the Pentax batteries don't last the advertised 500 recharges, or do you recharge often enough that you reach 500 recharges in 5 or 6 years??

I've never seen an advertisement saying they last 500 recharges and I've never gotten the average number of shots from them either. I'm not a stickler who says "this battery should get me 300 shutter actuations" and if it doesn't its junk, there are too many variables that affect battery life. I try to have extra batteries with me whenever I'm out shooting.

**Larrymc** · 10-02-2019, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by mlt

Does anyone keep track or count how many times they recharge camera batteries? Certainly wouldn’t want my camera to pop a note on screen telling me I’ve reached the recharge count limit.

You'd have to be a bit OCD to do that in my opinion.

**alfa75ts** · 10-02-2019, 01:21 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Larrymc

I try to have extra batteries with me whenever I'm out shooting.

I just have the one in the camera, if it goes flat I've been out too long.

gatorguy · 10-02-2019, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

I've never seen an advertisement saying they last 500 recharges and I've never gotten the average number of shots from them either. I'm not a stickler who says "this battery should get me 300 shutter actuations" and if it doesn't its junk, there are too many variables that affect battery life. I try to have extra batteries with me whenever I'm out shooting.

Anytime I go out on a planned shoot I carry at least two spare batteries and a couple of SD cards. Ya never know.

**Larrymc** · 10-02-2019, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by reh321

I recharge and inspect batteries on every Monday - so I'll never have one quietly going bad on the shelf.

So they quietly go bad in your camera?? When one of mine needs charging I take a new one off the top of the battery stack and pull it out of its zip lock bag and put it in the camera. I then take the low battery to the charger along with the zip lock bag and when the charge is complete it goes in the zip lock bag and to the bottom of the battery stack. Works like a charm.

Mistral75 · 10-02-2019, 02:21 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by monochrome

(...)

They certainly design the AF sensors. I don’t think it is known whether they actually fabricate them or farm it out, but I suspect Ricoh has fab capability.

I'm afraid Ricoh don't have semiconductor / sensor / VLSI fab capability.

MikeyBugs95 · 10-02-2019, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by alfa75ts

Counting on my fingers, I get pretty close to 500 partial charges on the somewhat suspect battery.

You just have pretty big hands for that many fingers.

I just label my batteries from 1 to whatever and I rotate them on down the line whenever they need charging. If 1 needs to be charged, I pop in 2, then 3, etc until I get to the end.

thibs · 10-02-2019, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

I'm afraid Ricoh don't have semiconductor / sensor / VLSI fab capability.

Probably not (anymore?).
This things have become way too costly, even for older processes.

And if so they might have to use Nikon stuff they'd probably like to avoid (this is not serious at all but fun anyway).

**Serkevan** · 10-02-2019, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

So they quietly go bad in your camera?? When one of mine needs charging I take a new one off the top of the battery stack and pull it out of its zip lock bag and put it in the camera. I then take the low battery to the charger along with the zip lock bag and when the charge is complete it goes in the zip lock bag and to the bottom of the battery stack. Works like a charm.

I have only a couple batteries so when one runs out it gets unceremoniously tossed in the backpack and the other goes in... I have never managed to empty either of them in a single day anyway.

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10-02-2019, 12:47 PM	#301
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by mlt Does anyone keep track or count how many times they recharge camera batteries? Certainly wouldn’t want my camera to pop a note on screen telling me I’ve reached the recharge count limit I recharge and inspect batteries on every Monday - so I'll never have one quietly going bad on the shelf.

10-02-2019, 12:51 PM	#302
kiwi_jono Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,437	I like that it appears this camera may have mount illumination (by the openings under prism bulge. Regarding batteries, this all getting a bit off topic but I have not had any batteries fail (or cause camera problems) personally and one of my batteries was manufactured in 2011. I do try to not to store them fully charged (when practical) though - as keeping lithium batteries fully charged ages them faster. That said I have noticed some reduction in capacity however.

10-02-2019, 12:53 PM	#303
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Originally posted by mlt Does anyone keep track or count how many times they recharge camera batteries? Counting on my fingers, I get pretty close to 500 partial charges on the somewhat suspect battery.

10-02-2019, 12:57 PM	#304
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by house Interesting. As previously mentioned it never occured to me. Always felt like they were mechanical engineers first. Optical engineers, electrical engineers1 and manufacturing process engineere really.. (last is a Ricoh core skill). 1 IBIS / PixelShift is an electromagnetic system rather than a mechanical system

10-02-2019, 01:02 PM	#305
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Mistral75 I hope we are going back to ancient times, when the K10D was almost in the same class as the D200 but (much) more affordable. And DPR was already biased against it. I remember clearly.

10-02-2019, 01:03 PM	#306
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by csa Nope; count me in, as well. I just don't use all the focus points available. Who does? They are there if you need them as focus and recompose doesn't always work especially with shallow depths of field.

10-02-2019, 01:17 PM	#307
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by reh321 So you're saying that the Pentax batteries don't last the advertised 500 recharges, or do you recharge often enough that you reach 500 recharges in 5 or 6 years?? I've never seen an advertisement saying they last 500 recharges and I've never gotten the average number of shots from them either. I'm not a stickler who says "this battery should get me 300 shutter actuations" and if it doesn't its junk, there are too many variables that affect battery life. I try to have extra batteries with me whenever I'm out shooting.

10-02-2019, 01:20 PM	#308
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by mlt Does anyone keep track or count how many times they recharge camera batteries? Certainly wouldn’t want my camera to pop a note on screen telling me I’ve reached the recharge count limit. You'd have to be a bit OCD to do that in my opinion.

10-02-2019, 01:21 PM - 1 Like	#309
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Originally posted by Larrymc I try to have extra batteries with me whenever I'm out shooting. I just have the one in the camera, if it goes flat I've been out too long.

10-02-2019, 01:23 PM	#310
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by Larrymc I've never seen an advertisement saying they last 500 recharges and I've never gotten the average number of shots from them either. I'm not a stickler who says "this battery should get me 300 shutter actuations" and if it doesn't its junk, there are too many variables that affect battery life. I try to have extra batteries with me whenever I'm out shooting. Anytime I go out on a planned shoot I carry at least two spare batteries and a couple of SD cards. Ya never know.

10-02-2019, 01:26 PM	#311
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by reh321 I recharge and inspect batteries on every Monday - so I'll never have one quietly going bad on the shelf. So they quietly go bad in your camera?? When one of mine needs charging I take a new one off the top of the battery stack and pull it out of its zip lock bag and put it in the camera. I then take the low battery to the charger along with the zip lock bag and when the charge is complete it goes in the zip lock bag and to the bottom of the battery stack. Works like a charm.

10-02-2019, 02:21 PM - 2 Likes	#312
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by monochrome (...) They certainly design the AF sensors. I don’t think it is known whether they actually fabricate them or farm it out, but I suspect Ricoh has fab capability. I'm afraid Ricoh don't have semiconductor / sensor / VLSI fab capability.

10-02-2019, 02:29 PM	#313
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Originally posted by alfa75ts Counting on my fingers, I get pretty close to 500 partial charges on the somewhat suspect battery. You just have pretty big hands for that many fingers. I just label my batteries from 1 to whatever and I rotate them on down the line whenever they need charging. If 1 needs to be charged, I pop in 2, then 3, etc until I get to the end.

10-02-2019, 02:30 PM	#314
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Mistral75 I'm afraid Ricoh don't have semiconductor / sensor / VLSI fab capability. Probably not (anymore?). This things have become way too costly, even for older processes. And if so they might have to use Nikon stuff they'd probably like to avoid (this is not serious at all but fun anyway).

10-02-2019, 02:43 PM	#315
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by Larrymc So they quietly go bad in your camera?? When one of mine needs charging I take a new one off the top of the battery stack and pull it out of its zip lock bag and put it in the camera. I then take the low battery to the charger along with the zip lock bag and when the charge is complete it goes in the zip lock bag and to the bottom of the battery stack. Works like a charm. I have only a couple batteries so when one runs out it gets unceremoniously tossed in the backpack and the other goes in... I have never managed to empty either of them in a single day anyway.