Pentax 100 years meeting at Sapporo report

MatKus · 10-21-2019, 12:01 PM - **1 Like**

Hurray, we have another thread to talk how great this camera will be even if we don't know anything ;-)
Don't get me wrong. I'm in hype train too and waiting for literally any news, even like this one ;-)

**BigMackCam** · 10-21-2019, 01:31 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by rangercarp

I am sure there are lots of ways to smuggle a large lens into an intimate gathering.

"Is that a 70-200 f/2.8 in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me?"

Zygonyx · 10-21-2019, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Indeed, it could be the video mode that prevents the Ricoh Imaging representative to proclaim the K-New as superior to the Canon EOS 90D. If so, no big deal.

Sorry to insist, but :
EOS 90D : 32,5 Mpix
K-2 as rumored : 26 Mpix
D500 : 20,9 Mpix.
Easy to "class" according to the currently persisting "best" selling race

Mistral75 · 10-21-2019, 01:54 PM - **3 Likes**

^ If Ricoh developers are now ranking cameras, their and their competitors', according to the number of MP of their sensor, I'm going to start worrying...

**BigMackCam** · 10-21-2019, 02:07 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Sorry to insist, but :
EOS 90D : 32,5 Mpix
K-2 as rumored : 26 Mpix
D500 : 20,9 Mpix.
Easy to "class" according to the currently persisting "best" selling race

Originally posted by Mistral75

^ If Ricoh developers are now ranking cameras, their and their competitors', according to the number of MP of their sensor, I'm going to start worrying...

Yeah, I fail to see how Canon's 32.5MP resolution can be used to rank it higher... at least, not if raw image performance is a factor. See below, DPR comparison of KP vs 90D at ISO 12,800 with the 90D's output sized to the same dimensions as the KP...

**PJ1** · 10-21-2019, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

K-2 as rumored

I suspect it will be a K-3 something. In one of these pics there is what appears to be a Blackjack hand - and the card turned over is a 3. If someone is having a bit of fun with the speculation, the other two cards might add up to 18. But I think you would have to know a bit of Japanese to work out the possibilities. I can think of a few, but none appear really likely (including the K and then 8 being 1000 in binary). Or it may be a 'sounds like' thing which I wouldn't have a clue about.I like puzzles and I like to think that someone may have set some puzzles in this.

**BigMackCam** · 10-21-2019, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by PJ1

I suspect it will be a K-3 something. In one of these pics there is what appears to be a Blackjack hand - and the card turned over is a 3. If someone is having a bit of fun with the speculation, the other two cards might add up to 18. But I think you would have to know a bit of Japanese to work out the possibilities. I can think of a few, but none appear really likely (including the K and then 8 being 1000 in binary). Or it may be a 'sounds like' thing which I wouldn't have a clue about.I like puzzles and I like to think that someone may have set some puzzles in this.

Peter, I think you should switch off the PC, go for a nice long walk in the fresh air and think about something else for a while...

Mistral75 · 10-21-2019, 02:33 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by PJ1

I suspect it will be a K-3 something. In one of these pics there is what appears to be a Blackjack hand - and the card turned over is a 3. If someone is having a bit of fun with the speculation, the other two cards might add up to 18. But I think you would have to know a bit of Japanese to work out the possibilities. I can think of a few, but none appear really likely (including the K and then 8 being 1000 in binary). Or it may be a 'sounds like' thing which I wouldn't have a clue about.I like puzzles and I like to think that someone may have set some puzzles in this.

Blackjack hand = 21. K is the 11th letter of the alphabet. 21 - 11 = 10. 10 - 3 = 7.
3 is 11 in binary. 7 is 111 in binary.

11 11 111. K-3 III. 11 + 3 + 7 = 21. Blackjack.

**PJ1** · 10-21-2019, 02:33 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I think you should switch off the PC, go for a nice long walk in the fresh air and think about something else for a while...

I appreciate your concern, Mike. I am in the fresh air - sitting in the sun just after daybreak in Burketown (Google that) which is about as close to the end of the earth as you can get. I am about to go and start my day's work with the Aboriginal Rangers. I was just having a bit of fun myself!

**BigMackCam** · 10-21-2019, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by PJ1

I appreciate your concern, Mike.

No worries, my friend. It's an unpublicised and unofficial service we offer when someone appears to have had too much Pentax-related thinking time... But I see you're fine after all

Originally posted by PJ1

I am in the fresh air - sitting in the sun just after daybreak in Burketown (Google that) which is about as close to the end of the earth as you can get. I am about to go and start my day's work with the Aboriginal Rangers. I was just having a bit of fun myself!

Wow. What a fantastic location

Must be a wonderful place to do some work. I guess the weather is improving by now?

I've checked out some places for you to refresh yourself after your day's work. Looking through the list of available watering holes on Tripadvisor, it seems the best rated one is the Burketown Pub. Actually, that looks like the only one

At least it's pretty well rated

Be safe!

reh321 · 10-21-2019, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by PJ1

I suspect it will be a K-3 something.

I believe in one of the interviews they said it would not be another K-3.
If it is as 'special' as they seem to say, they'll have to find another name to distinguish it from the K-3 family.

**beachgardener** · 10-21-2019, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by PJ1

Burketown

Is there still a train from Cairns that heads out that way?

reh321 · 10-21-2019, 03:31 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

^ If Ricoh developers are now ranking cameras, their and their competitors', according to the number of MP of their sensor, I'm going to start worrying...

especially since Pentax has been focusing on graceful higher ISO performance. The EOS 5DS series has very large sensors {in mp}, but as I predicted even before it came out, it is rather limited in ISO settings. I keep comparing other cameras to the KP, but I expect the 'K-3ii replacement' to do better once it is released.

**microlight** · 10-21-2019, 03:42 PM

Some cool deductive maths there, Mistral75!

**RobA_Oz** · 10-21-2019, 03:46 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by microlight

Some cool deductive maths there, Mistral75!

Probably the result of what would once have been described as a mis-spent youth!

10-21-2019, 02:07 PM - 1 Like	#95
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	Originally posted by Zygonyx Sorry to insist, but : EOS 90D : 32,5 Mpix K-2 as rumored : 26 Mpix D500 : 20,9 Mpix. Easy to "class" according to the currently persisting "best" selling race Originally posted by Mistral75 ^ If Ricoh developers are now ranking cameras, their and their competitors', according to the number of MP of their sensor, I'm going to start worrying... Yeah, I fail to see how Canon's 32.5MP resolution can be used to rank it higher... at least, not if raw image performance is a factor. See below, DPR comparison of KP vs 90D at ISO 12,800 with the 90D's output sized to the same dimensions as the KP... Attached Images Last edited by BigMackCam; 10-21-2019 at 03:36 PM.

10-21-2019, 02:33 PM - 2 Likes	#98
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by PJ1 I suspect it will be a K-3 something. In one of these pics there is what appears to be a Blackjack hand - and the card turned over is a 3. If someone is having a bit of fun with the speculation, the other two cards might add up to 18. But I think you would have to know a bit of Japanese to work out the possibilities. I can think of a few, but none appear really likely (including the K and then 8 being 1000 in binary). Or it may be a 'sounds like' thing which I wouldn't have a clue about.I like puzzles and I like to think that someone may have set some puzzles in this. Blackjack hand = 21. K is the 11th letter of the alphabet. 21 - 11 = 10. 10 - 3 = 7. 3 is 11 in binary. 7 is 111 in binary. 11 11 111. K-3 III. 11 + 3 + 7 = 21. Blackjack. Last edited by Mistral75; 10-21-2019 at 02:38 PM.

10-21-2019, 02:50 PM	#100
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	Originally posted by PJ1 I appreciate your concern, Mike. No worries, my friend. It's an unpublicised and unofficial service we offer when someone appears to have had too much Pentax-related thinking time... But I see you're fine after all Originally posted by PJ1 I am in the fresh air - sitting in the sun just after daybreak in Burketown (Google that) which is about as close to the end of the earth as you can get. I am about to go and start my day's work with the Aboriginal Rangers. I was just having a bit of fun myself! Wow. What a fantastic location Must be a wonderful place to do some work. I guess the weather is improving by now? I've checked out some places for you to refresh yourself after your day's work. Looking through the list of available watering holes on Tripadvisor, it seems the best rated one is the Burketown Pub. Actually, that looks like the only one At least it's pretty well rated Be safe! Last edited by BigMackCam; 10-21-2019 at 03:35 PM.

10-21-2019, 03:31 PM - 1 Like	#103
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by Mistral75 ^ If Ricoh developers are now ranking cameras, their and their competitors', according to the number of MP of their sensor, I'm going to start worrying... especially since Pentax has been focusing on graceful higher ISO performance. The EOS 5DS series has very large sensors {in mp}, but as I predicted even before it came out, it is rather limited in ISO settings. I keep comparing other cameras to the KP, but I expect the 'K-3ii replacement' to do better once it is released. Attached Images

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10-21-2019, 12:01 PM - 1 Like	#91
MatKus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 155	Hurray, we have another thread to talk how great this camera will be even if we don't know anything ;-) Don't get me wrong. I'm in hype train too and waiting for literally any news, even like this one ;-)

10-21-2019, 01:31 PM - 4 Likes	#92
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	Originally posted by rangercarp I am sure there are lots of ways to smuggle a large lens into an intimate gathering. "Is that a 70-200 f/2.8 in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me?"

10-21-2019, 01:43 PM	#93
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by Mistral75 Indeed, it could be the video mode that prevents the Ricoh Imaging representative to proclaim the K-New as superior to the Canon EOS 90D. If so, no big deal. Sorry to insist, but : EOS 90D : 32,5 Mpix K-2 as rumored : 26 Mpix D500 : 20,9 Mpix. Easy to "class" according to the currently persisting "best" selling race

10-21-2019, 01:54 PM - 3 Likes	#94
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	^ If Ricoh developers are now ranking cameras, their and their competitors', according to the number of MP of their sensor, I'm going to start worrying...

10-21-2019, 02:24 PM	#96
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,486	Originally posted by Zygonyx K-2 as rumored I suspect it will be a K-3 something. In one of these pics there is what appears to be a Blackjack hand - and the card turned over is a 3. If someone is having a bit of fun with the speculation, the other two cards might add up to 18. But I think you would have to know a bit of Japanese to work out the possibilities. I can think of a few, but none appear really likely (including the K and then 8 being 1000 in binary). Or it may be a 'sounds like' thing which I wouldn't have a clue about.I like puzzles and I like to think that someone may have set some puzzles in this.

10-21-2019, 02:28 PM	#97
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,695	Originally posted by PJ1 I suspect it will be a K-3 something. In one of these pics there is what appears to be a Blackjack hand - and the card turned over is a 3. If someone is having a bit of fun with the speculation, the other two cards might add up to 18. But I think you would have to know a bit of Japanese to work out the possibilities. I can think of a few, but none appear really likely (including the K and then 8 being 1000 in binary). Or it may be a 'sounds like' thing which I wouldn't have a clue about.I like puzzles and I like to think that someone may have set some puzzles in this. Peter, I think you should switch off the PC, go for a nice long walk in the fresh air and think about something else for a while...

10-21-2019, 02:33 PM - 2 Likes	#99
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,486	Originally posted by BigMackCam I think you should switch off the PC, go for a nice long walk in the fresh air and think about something else for a while... I appreciate your concern, Mike. I am in the fresh air - sitting in the sun just after daybreak in Burketown (Google that) which is about as close to the end of the earth as you can get. I am about to go and start my day's work with the Aboriginal Rangers. I was just having a bit of fun myself!

10-21-2019, 03:13 PM	#101
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by PJ1 I suspect it will be a K-3 something. I believe in one of the interviews they said it would not be another K-3. If it is as 'special' as they seem to say, they'll have to find another name to distinguish it from the K-3 family.

10-21-2019, 03:18 PM	#102
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by PJ1 Burketown Is there still a train from Cairns that heads out that way?

10-21-2019, 03:42 PM	#104
microlight Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,129	Some cool deductive maths there, Mistral75!

10-21-2019, 03:46 PM - 1 Like	#105
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by microlight Some cool deductive maths there, Mistral75! Probably the result of what would once have been described as a mis-spent youth!