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thibs · 10-26-2019, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by slartibartfast01

OK now I know what honing is
Flat honing - Wikipedia
I agree it is metal. I had come across grinding and lapping but never honing. I still think it could have been described as metal rather than metallic, why waste three letters.

Does 'metallic' in English mean 'fake metal' ? It certainly does not in French.

slartibartfast01 · 10-26-2019, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Does 'metallic' in English mean 'fake metal' ? It certainly does not in French.

It "can" mean resembling metal. Glitter is metallic but does not contain metal for example.

funkythiru · 10-26-2019, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

The shoe is a bit dark greyer than latests silver bodies, and looks quite prone to oxydation…

Fits best on darker K200D silver :

Looks cool. Congrats.

Class A · 10-26-2019, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by angerdan

Already sold out in Germany.

Originally posted by Mistral75

In France and the UK too.

Goodness gracious.

Hope Ricoh isn't getting any ideas from this regarding their future pricing schemes...

I'm OK with limited items being priced out into the stratosphere, as long as the plain version still offers a great value for money proposition.

Mistral75 · 10-26-2019, 05:51 AM - **1 Like**

They could get ideas regarding the release of more fan stuff in the future.

**Mikesul** · 10-26-2019, 06:18 AM

Do they think the value of this is it's limited run or just the charm of the commemorative? If more the latter than the former they could make more money selling more of them worldwide. But they may think the "limited" number is the attraction. I have no idea.

reh321 · 10-26-2019, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Do they think the value of this is it's limited run or just the charm of the commemorative? If more the latter than the former they could make more money selling more of them worldwide. But they may think the "limited" number is the attraction. I have no idea.

My understanding is that Japanese culture includes lots of "collectors" - people who gather things like a 'silver' camera that normally occurs in 'black' only. If my understanding is correct, they value items for their rareness and/or unusualness, and these items were produced primarily as a limited run - they would be of less value in the home market if they were produced to meet demand.

Mistral75 · 10-26-2019, 08:34 AM

Ricoh Imaging have opened 'fan products' pages on their European online stores (.de, .fr, .co.uk), see for instance Fan products.

Racer X 69 · 10-26-2019, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Do they think the value of this is it's limited run or just the charm of the commemorative? If more the latter than the former they could make more money selling more of them worldwide. But they may think the "limited" number is the attraction. I have no idea.

Only they know what they think.

It is certain though that they are making out like bandits, selling an item that probably didn’t cost more than a dollar for fifty bucks.

Soon we will see them on eBay, “Rare Pentax 100 Years Hotshoe Cover”, “Limited Edition!”, selling for $100 or more.

angerdan · 10-26-2019, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Ricoh Imaging have opened 'fan products' pages on their European online stores (.de, .fr, .co.uk), see for instance Fan products.

They show this category since some time, at least 2017. No connection the the anniversary.

Class A · 10-26-2019, 10:24 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

They could get ideas regarding the release of more fan stuff in the future.

Fine by me, if it makes them money.

We just don't want to create the impression that Pentaxians have enormously deep pockets.

Racer X 69 · 10-26-2019, 12:09 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Class A

We just don't want to create the impression that Pentaxians have enormously deep pockets.

Well I do.

But they are mostly empty.

slartibartfast01 · 10-26-2019, 12:12 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

Well I do.

But they are mostly empty.

I have deep pockets and short arms.

Kunzite · 10-26-2019, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

They could get ideas regarding the release of more fan stuff in the future.

It would be weird for Pentax to be the only brand which doesn't sell such products worldwide.

**Belnan** · 10-26-2019, 12:24 PM - **1 Like**

They should of did an anniversary grip for the KP.

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10-26-2019, 04:59 AM	#61
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by slartibartfast01 OK now I know what honing is Flat honing - Wikipedia I agree it is metal. I had come across grinding and lapping but never honing. I still think it could have been described as metal rather than metallic, why waste three letters. Does 'metallic' in English mean 'fake metal' ? It certainly does not in French.

10-26-2019, 05:09 AM	#62
slartibartfast01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,931	Originally posted by thibs Does 'metallic' in English mean 'fake metal' ? It certainly does not in French. It "can" mean resembling metal. Glitter is metallic but does not contain metal for example.

10-26-2019, 05:18 AM	#63
funkythiru Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Chicago Posts: 291	Originally posted by Zygonyx The shoe is a bit dark greyer than latests silver bodies, and looks quite prone to oxydation… Fits best on darker K200D silver : Looks cool. Congrats.

10-26-2019, 05:47 AM	#64
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by angerdan Already sold out in Germany. Originally posted by Mistral75 In France and the UK too. Goodness gracious. Hope Ricoh isn't getting any ideas from this regarding their future pricing schemes... I'm OK with limited items being priced out into the stratosphere, as long as the plain version still offers a great value for money proposition.

10-26-2019, 05:51 AM - 1 Like	#65
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	They could get ideas regarding the release of more fan stuff in the future.

10-26-2019, 06:18 AM	#66
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Do they think the value of this is it's limited run or just the charm of the commemorative? If more the latter than the former they could make more money selling more of them worldwide. But they may think the "limited" number is the attraction. I have no idea.

10-26-2019, 07:03 AM	#67
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,185	Originally posted by Mikesul Do they think the value of this is it's limited run or just the charm of the commemorative? If more the latter than the former they could make more money selling more of them worldwide. But they may think the "limited" number is the attraction. I have no idea. My understanding is that Japanese culture includes lots of "collectors" - people who gather things like a 'silver' camera that normally occurs in 'black' only. If my understanding is correct, they value items for their rareness and/or unusualness, and these items were produced primarily as a limited run - they would be of less value in the home market if they were produced to meet demand.

10-26-2019, 08:34 AM	#68
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Ricoh Imaging have opened 'fan products' pages on their European online stores (.de, .fr, .co.uk), see for instance Fan products.

10-26-2019, 08:43 AM	#69
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,077	Originally posted by Mikesul Do they think the value of this is it's limited run or just the charm of the commemorative? If more the latter than the former they could make more money selling more of them worldwide. But they may think the "limited" number is the attraction. I have no idea. Only they know what they think. It is certain though that they are making out like bandits, selling an item that probably didn’t cost more than a dollar for fifty bucks. Soon we will see them on eBay, “Rare Pentax 100 Years Hotshoe Cover”, “Limited Edition!”, selling for $100 or more.

10-26-2019, 09:49 AM	#70
angerdan Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,643	Originally posted by Mistral75 Ricoh Imaging have opened 'fan products' pages on their European online stores (.de, .fr, .co.uk), see for instance Fan products. They show this category since some time, at least 2017. No connection the the anniversary.

10-26-2019, 10:24 AM - 1 Like	#71
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by Mistral75 They could get ideas regarding the release of more fan stuff in the future. Fine by me, if it makes them money. We just don't want to create the impression that Pentaxians have enormously deep pockets.

10-26-2019, 12:09 PM - 1 Like	#72
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,077	Originally posted by Class A We just don't want to create the impression that Pentaxians have enormously deep pockets. Well I do. But they are mostly empty.

10-26-2019, 12:12 PM - 2 Likes	#73
slartibartfast01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,931	Originally posted by Racer X 69 Well I do. But they are mostly empty. I have deep pockets and short arms.

10-26-2019, 12:18 PM	#74
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Mistral75 They could get ideas regarding the release of more fan stuff in the future. It would be weird for Pentax to be the only brand which doesn't sell such products worldwide.

10-26-2019, 12:24 PM - 1 Like	#75
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	They should of did an anniversary grip for the KP.

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