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11-15-2019, 09:28 AM   #421
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Oh for gods sake! I can't even agree with you without getting it in the neck!

If you were offended by the line you highlighted, i apologise. It wasnt my intention

Regarding the content herein. This was always going to be a speculative thread as is every thread relating to a prototype who's specifications may be subject to change.

As for where, when or how often people post, that is their perogative! Providing they are not causing offence they can post where, when and as often as they like.

As for levity, I would rather have a hundred posts about cameras making toast than complaint after complaint because a thread about possible inclusions, which could only ever be speculative, doesn't die a death for want of facts! I would point out the irony here but frankly, whats the point!

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I subscribe only to a few threads, mostly ones that I create - I just visit this one on occasion. You have free will, but I was really responding to the comment that the Moderators will shut it down. Yes, the Moderators have shutdown several threads about the "K-3ii replacement" that have gone totally off subject; I was agreeing with the thought that this thread is in danger of having that happen too {which is true whether or not I visit it}, and expressing the thought that some people need an open thread in which to comment about the new camera. I am sorry that you were offended.

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I am sure I read that Canon released an apsc that has a 30+ megapixel sensor. I wonder if the K new will stick with the 24 or go large which then throws up the question, is a higher pixel count always a good thing?
I can't see them going other than the Sony 26Mp - the effects on frame rate and buffer (as well as high ISOs, to an extent) of a higher Mp sensor would be too great for a camera which logically has to be a Pentaxland speed champ - I would expect a frame rate marginally higher than the K-3 plus, of course, higher pixel density - should make it great for wildlife includig macro
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I can't see them going other than the Sony 26Mp - the effects on frame rate and buffer (as well as high ISOs, to an extent) of a higher Mp sensor would be too great for a camera which logically has to be a Pentaxland speed champ - I would expect a frame rate marginally higher than the K-3 plus, of course, higher pixel density - should make it great for wildlife includig macro
I keep hoping for some 26mp system - and a new processor, because I think they have pushed the old one about as far as it is going to go.
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If Sony didn’t create a 28 or 30mb chip for their new A6600, I don’t think one exists to sell to Ricoh. A good 24-26mb chip coupled with a fast processor is fine.

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I can't see them going other than the Sony 26Mp
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I keep hoping for some 26mp system - and a new processor,
I can see them using the 24mp that's in the GR3,they have it in the parts bin already.They can order plenty and it goes in K-2020,then other cameras down the line.

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I don’t think one exists to sell to Ricoh
But Samsung has one!

Whether its for sale,no one knows except those that wont tell!

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a fast processor is fine.
A slower one isn't!
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But Samsung has one!
Samsung makes their own sensors, so it doesn't really count. We are mostly talking about the Sony ones.
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Samsung makes their own sensors, so it doesn't really count. We are mostly talking about the Sony ones.
Since Samsung left the camera business, there has been a rumor that they would sell both the sensor and a processor to Pentax - we don’t know whether that is wishful thinking. We shall see in a few months.

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We shall see in a few months.
Ricoh's secrecy!
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
Since Samsung left the camera business, there has been a rumor that they would sell both the sensor and a processor to Pentax - we don’t know whether that is wishful thinking. We shall see in a few months.
If that were the case, it would have been in time for the KP, no? I mean, I'd be happy to see a 28MP BSI sensor on the K-New. If it uses the processor+sensor combo of the NX1 and gets to 15 fps with outstanding IQ (4K uncrompressed video is a bonus), our action shooters will probably be cackling mad with joy.
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If that were the case, it would have been in time for the KP, no? I mean, I'd be happy to see a 28MP BSI sensor on the K-New. If it uses the processor+sensor combo of the NX1 and gets to 15 fps with outstanding IQ (4K uncrompressed video is a bonus), our action shooters will probably be cackling mad with joy.
The KP was out when the rumor arose; we don't know anything about it - we do not know whether there is any truth in it, so we should neither accept nor reject it.
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If that were the case, it would have been in time for the KP, no?
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How long ago did Samsung exit the camera business, and how long was that sensor/cpu in design before put in the Nx-1? The NX1 was announced in 2014 and discontinued 1 year later. As good as it was at the time it was released, putting that sensor from a 6 year old camera in the next Pentax does not make sense.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mlt Quote
How long ago did Samsung exit the camera business, and how long was that sensor/cpu in design before put in the Nx-1? The NX1 was announced in 2014 and discontinued 1 year later. As good as it was at the time it was released, putting that sensor from a 6 year old camera in the next Pentax does not make sense.
Hey, if it's better it's better. The framerate and resolution are certainly up there, although high-ISO noise might suffer a bit. Heck, 15 fps is basically top of the line for APS-C.

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The KP was out when the rumor arose; we don't know anything about it - we do not know whether there is any truth in it, so we should neither accept nor reject it.
Samsung left the camera business around 4 years ago now (and might have even decided on it more or less immediately after releasing the NX1); the KP was, I guess, still in development at the time. Maybe there was a deal for the K-New to have that sensor, maybe not. Maybe there WAS a deal at one point, but there was a change of plans and that's why it took so long to announce the replacement.

It would be interesting to have the processors, however.

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How long ago did Samsung exit the camera business,
Officially never,theres been only a kinda announcement that they were ceasing production of the point and shoot cameras that were produced in India.

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(and might have even decided on it more or less immediately after releasing the NX1)
I doubt that,the NX500 came in 2015.

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Hey, if it's better it's better.
Sony's recent sensors have only just surpassed the Samsung,IF? the 28mp is indeed in the K-2020,it will be very good.

26mp Sony,it will be very good too.

24mp Sony,it might be very good?...."very good" being in the mind of the maker,buyer,reviewer!
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I doubt that,the NX500 came in 2015.
February 2015, to September 2014 of the NX1... so both were most likely in development simultaneously. If you have two products almost ready for release, and you think they will sell well, there's no real reason to cancel them.
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