New information about new flagship's selling date

**monochrome** · 11-14-2019, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by normhead

Are you sure the K-3ii has the accelerator? They did ad Pixel Shift, the accelerator was first added in the K-70.

K3-ll did not have the Accelerator.

**Cerebum** · 11-14-2019, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by reh321

The answer in #364 was better than mine. With Pentax, at least, you cannot use designation to determine whether a change is major or minor. For example, there was virtually no difference between the K-30 and the K-50. Ricoh provided a conversion between the K-1 and the K-1ii that involved a board change; I believe a board change would have also been involved in a conversion of a K-3 to a K-3ii, but there were too many physical changes to make it happen. In short, Pentax has had changes that were minor, but introduction of the K-3ii was not one of them. On the other hand, it looks like Pentax will not have introduced any new camera in over two years by the time this camera comes out, and more to the point, the “K-3 shelf” is empty.

Wasn't the k30-k50 little more than a body shape change because the k30 was deemed too aggressive lol

**Belnan** · 11-14-2019, 07:13 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Cerebum

I have a battery grip in a box too

The perfect Christmas gift.

normhead · 11-14-2019, 07:53 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Belnan

The perfect Christmas gift.

For those who complain about the battery size on the K-P the battery grip is one possible answer. On my k-3, in 6 years I've probably changed batteries during a shoot 5 times. And when shooting all in the same session, I've exceeded 800 images without changing batteries.

Not a Number · 11-14-2019, 07:59 AM - **2 Likes**

If you're shooting in the studio you can always use the AC adapter to power your camera. No need to change batteries that way.

**ffking** · 11-14-2019, 07:59 AM

I used the battery fgrip a lot when the K-3 as my main camera, but since I bought the K-1.I use the K-3 mostly for insect macros, and the grip too often gets in the way of low shots, soI haven't used it for a couple of years now

tvdtvdtvd · 11-14-2019, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Not a Number

If you're shooting in the studio you can always use the AC adapter to power your camera. No need to change batteries that way.

That's actually a great idea, thanks. I know it came to mind eons ago when I really didn't need an ac adapter but for whatever
reason(*) I hadn't thought about it since beginning all this studio work.

(* Senility is not an option)

reh321 · 11-14-2019, 09:45 AM

This thread is about the "K-3ii replacement". A battery grip is one way of reducing the gap between the KP and the K-3ii; it will reduce the KP's size advantage but reduce its power disadvantage. Presumably the "K-3ii replacement" will have a battery life more like the K-3ii than like the KP, but beyond that we will need more information before we can discuss the new camera intelligently.

tvdtvdtvd · 11-14-2019, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by reh321

before we can discuss the new camera intelligently.

What fun is that?

Is rational speculation not good enough? And the irrational speculation adds spice!

/s

reh321 · 11-14-2019, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

What fun is that?

Is rational speculation not good enough? And the irrational speculation adds spice!

/s

Honestly, the problem is that people gets their hopes up as a result of these discussions, and by the time actual facts are released, no camera could meet all expectations. This is what leads to later statements that a {former} Pentax user is switching to some other brand, despite the fact that brand also doesn't meet all expectations.

**mlt** · 11-14-2019, 10:38 AM

True, perceived expectations always look better than actual

**Cerebum** · 11-14-2019, 12:13 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by mlt

True, perceived expectations always look better than actual

My heart is now firmly set on it making toast

**c.a.m** · 11-14-2019, 12:34 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Cerebum

My heart is now firmly set on it making toast

Single slot, or two?

**RobA_Oz** · 11-14-2019, 12:44 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Cerebum

My heart is now firmly set on it making toast

Originally posted by c.a.m

Single slot, or two?

Defrost cycle or accelerator?

MikeyBugs95 · 11-14-2019, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Cerebum

My heart is now firmly set on it making toast

If it can put butter or jam on the toast at the same time, I'd definitely be in. But I'd rather it be an add-on feature. I don't want to get sand in the toaster if I go to the beach with it.

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11-14-2019, 07:01 AM	#391
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by normhead Are you sure the K-3ii has the accelerator? They did ad Pixel Shift, the accelerator was first added in the K-70. K3-ll did not have the Accelerator.

11-14-2019, 07:08 AM	#392
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,828	Originally posted by reh321 The answer in #364 was better than mine. With Pentax, at least, you cannot use designation to determine whether a change is major or minor. For example, there was virtually no difference between the K-30 and the K-50. Ricoh provided a conversion between the K-1 and the K-1ii that involved a board change; I believe a board change would have also been involved in a conversion of a K-3 to a K-3ii, but there were too many physical changes to make it happen. In short, Pentax has had changes that were minor, but introduction of the K-3ii was not one of them. On the other hand, it looks like Pentax will not have introduced any new camera in over two years by the time this camera comes out, and more to the point, the “K-3 shelf” is empty. Wasn't the k30-k50 little more than a body shape change because the k30 was deemed too aggressive lol

11-14-2019, 07:13 AM - 1 Like	#393
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by Cerebum I have a battery grip in a box too The perfect Christmas gift.

11-14-2019, 07:53 AM - 1 Like	#394
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Belnan The perfect Christmas gift. For those who complain about the battery size on the K-P the battery grip is one possible answer. On my k-3, in 6 years I've probably changed batteries during a shoot 5 times. And when shooting all in the same session, I've exceeded 800 images without changing batteries.

11-14-2019, 07:59 AM - 2 Likes	#395
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	If you're shooting in the studio you can always use the AC adapter to power your camera. No need to change batteries that way.

11-14-2019, 07:59 AM	#396
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	I used the battery fgrip a lot when the K-3 as my main camera, but since I bought the K-1.I use the K-3 mostly for insect macros, and the grip too often gets in the way of low shots, soI haven't used it for a couple of years now

11-14-2019, 09:41 AM	#397
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by Not a Number If you're shooting in the studio you can always use the AC adapter to power your camera. No need to change batteries that way. That's actually a great idea, thanks. I know it came to mind eons ago when I really didn't need an ac adapter but for whatever reason() I hadn't thought about it since beginning all this studio work. ( Senility is not an option)

11-14-2019, 09:45 AM	#398
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,179	This thread is about the "K-3ii replacement". A battery grip is one way of reducing the gap between the KP and the K-3ii; it will reduce the KP's size advantage but reduce its power disadvantage. Presumably the "K-3ii replacement" will have a battery life more like the K-3ii than like the KP, but beyond that we will need more information before we can discuss the new camera intelligently.

11-14-2019, 10:00 AM	#399
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by reh321 before we can discuss the new camera intelligently. What fun is that? Is rational speculation not good enough? And the irrational speculation adds spice! /s

11-14-2019, 10:07 AM	#400
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,179	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd What fun is that? Is rational speculation not good enough? And the irrational speculation adds spice! /s Honestly, the problem is that people gets their hopes up as a result of these discussions, and by the time actual facts are released, no camera could meet all expectations. This is what leads to later statements that a {former} Pentax user is switching to some other brand, despite the fact that brand also doesn't meet all expectations.

11-14-2019, 10:38 AM	#401
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	True, perceived expectations always look better than actual

11-14-2019, 12:13 PM - 2 Likes	#402
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,828	Originally posted by mlt True, perceived expectations always look better than actual My heart is now firmly set on it making toast

11-14-2019, 12:34 PM - 2 Likes	#403
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	Originally posted by Cerebum My heart is now firmly set on it making toast Single slot, or two?

11-14-2019, 12:44 PM - 1 Like	#404
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by Cerebum My heart is now firmly set on it making toast Originally posted by c.a.m Single slot, or two? Defrost cycle or accelerator?

11-14-2019, 01:00 PM	#405
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	Originally posted by Cerebum My heart is now firmly set on it making toast If it can put butter or jam on the toast at the same time, I'd definitely be in. But I'd rather it be an add-on feature. I don't want to get sand in the toaster if I go to the beach with it.