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11-17-2019, 11:26 PM   #451
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QuoteOriginally posted by Karen the Star Quote
When I read this I feel a little bad mood, from website 「デジカメInfo」, which means digital camera information, I've got a news said that the new APS-C flagship will on sell in Summer 2020, for me this means quite being delayed

Also, the news said the screen on camera will be unable to pull out, sorry don't know how to write that in English with single word , but I don't believe this

seems the information is from Kimio Takana's feeling about when he touch this prototype,
think about last twitter of him, he foreseen that camera's detail will be release on 2020, however it was announced just last month actually, so his utterance is not absolutely correct

you can also see more information with this link:
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That is very interesting but a bit disappointing

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Well it is November 2019 already. It will be 2020 anyway when it will hit the stores. one or two months there or here. Atleast it is close.
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QuoteOriginally posted by repaap Quote
Well it is November 2019 already. It will be 2020 anyway when it will hit the stores. one or two months there or here. Atleast it is close.
Right. The original post contains a somehow misleading spin by emphasising a "delay". As far as I am aware the announcement was predicted for spring 2020 and a sale date in summer is very realistic and not in any contradiction to any information provided so far.

We all know how the "internet" works and therefore it is no surprise that e.g. also photoscala.de picked up and perpetuated a "rumour" on a "delay" of the annonced flagship. I think it is not a hard thing to track down the "source" of that...
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^ The official statement is 'Currently under development for market launch in 2020' with no further precision. A (hypothetical) launch in summer 2020 shan't therefore be considered as a delay.

Some people, including myself, think that the camera will be announced at the end of February (CP+ 2020) but that's a pure guesstimate.

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We’ll know if the cp+ announcement is for sure by the number of pre-show “leaks”. Definitely more rumors coming.
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We’ll know if the cp+ announcement is for sure by the number of pre-show “leaks”. Definitely more rumors coming.
Yeah. Just few days before the announcement - watch Nokishita Camera
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One would certainly expect a flurry of activity leading up to and definitely on the 27th, hopefully including
more news on the K-New.

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One would certainly expect a flurry of activity leading up to and definitely on the 27th, hopefully including
more news on the K-New.
Would expect that period to be lens announcements, but maybe a leak or two about upcoming features.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mlt Quote
Would expect that period to be lens announcements, but maybe a leak or two about upcoming features.
If history is a guide, whatever they do is going to frustrate a lot of people.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tvdtvdtvd Quote
One would certainly expect a flurry of activity leading up to and definitely on the 27th, hopefully including
more news on the K-New.
Do you see 'a flurry of activity' today on the 18th? I don't.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Do you see 'a flurry of activity' today on the 18th? I don't.
Some parts of the country are seeing flurries
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Still 9 days to go before the 27th, plenty of time for flurries to begin
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Well.. it is still possible, that the prototype shown to public that started serious discussion about LCD and other stuff might affected the development. Maybe it is late for such design changes..... but check Sonic Hedgehog main character changes in upcoming movie due to public requests, which delayed movie for 1/2 year

But in reality they are probably just waiting to finish some UL/CE etc. testing or they are fixing SW problems as I expect that software (firmware) is quite huge and delicate part of any modern advanced camera. Also suppliers might have some issues with out of spec parts or similar stuff. That can take many months like nothing.

Hope my K5 will survive until new camera is available.. now having 137 000 photos on counter..

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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Do you see 'a flurry of activity' today on the 18th? I don't.
Well, we are still >9< days out. They wouldn't want to dilute all the fun by spreading it too thin.
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QuoteOriginally posted by xmeda Quote
Well.. it is still possible, that the prototype shown to public that started serious discussion about LCD and other stuff might affected the development. Maybe it is late for such design changes..... but check Sonic Hedgehog main character changes in upcoming movie due to public requests, which delayed movie for 1/2 year

But in reality they are probably just waiting to finish some UL/CE etc. testing or they are fixing SW problems as I expect that software (firmware) is quite huge and delicate part of any modern advanced camera. Also suppliers might have some issues with out of spec parts or similar stuff. That can take many months like nothing.

Hope my K5 will survive until new camera is available.. now having 137 000 photos on counter..
No it is not.
The design was approved earlier in the development cycle, with 3d-printed mock-ups and so on. Most likely they had the input of selected pro photographers. They will not start discussing about articulated screens now.
Besides, they're smarter than given credit - they must know the loudest complainers are non-buyers, and if an articulated screen was added those would find another reason not to buy

I remember arguing that the camera will be made at all; now there's this idea that it would be "delayed" for some silly reason
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