New information about new flagship's selling date

**squareeyes** · 12-05-2019, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by rawr

But 'perfect is the enemy of good', remember.

Why can't good and perfect get along?

reh321 · 12-05-2019, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by squareeyes

Why can't good and perfect get along?

It isn't the qualities that can not get along - it is the people who value one over the other.

**lsimpkins** · 12-05-2019, 01:31 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by gazonk

Since a camera contains software, it can never be perfect, because any bug free software is either outdated or uninteresting

... or imaginary!

**mlt** · 12-05-2019, 01:41 PM - **1 Like**

All software is ‘beta’ until end of life. One can try, but you can never take into account every conceivable way it will be used (or abused) by the end user.

**subsea** · 12-05-2019, 01:47 PM - **4 Likes**

I had a friend whose favorite saying was "It's impossible to make things foolproof because fools are so ingenious!" Seems to fit here.

MikeyBugs95 · 12-05-2019, 02:08 PM - **3 Likes**

"There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies."

—C.A.R. Hoare

bobmaxja · 12-05-2019, 02:28 PM

It's time to close that thread, already few pages with nothing pertinent regarding the OP subject.

noelpolar · 12-05-2019, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

...including modesty.

It's a dog.

xmeda · 12-05-2019, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

It's time to close that thread, already few pages with nothing pertinent regarding the OP subject.

Or maybe lets go back to the subject.

Any insider info? Anybody?

**Larrymc** · 12-05-2019, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by xmeda

Or maybe lets go back to the subject.

Any insider info? Anybody?

Yeah, I've got some but I can't tell anyone about it!!

zoolander · 12-06-2019, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by Karen the Star

Name? Here we are

Did somebody say KFC?

totsmuyco · 12-06-2019, 05:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Larrymc

Yeah, I've got some but I can't tell anyone about it!!

I believe your source is classified. You can tell me but then you'll have to kill me!

The Squirrel Mafia · 12-06-2019, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by xmeda

Or maybe lets go back to the subject.

Any insider info? Anybody?

I don't think anyone here has any info. The only person that I could think of would be asahiman on the other forum, but he hasn't really said much about this camera. He has said more stuff about 2 different classes of FF coming up & even then he hasn't given much info about that either.

**monochrome** · 12-06-2019, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by mlt

My rescue tri-color Corgi thinks she’s pretty perfect, seems to be a Corgi mindset

:

Pembrokes feel the same way as Cardigans. They’re just more aggressive about making their feelings known.

photoptimist · 12-06-2019, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by xmeda

Or maybe lets go back to the subject.

Any insider info? Anybody?

I doubt insider information would really help. Although Ricoh's managers (and engineers) certainly have a plan for the likely release date, the actual date is not totally under their control. Issues with the firmware, last-minute feedback from beta testers, updated decisions by marketing/management, delays from parts suppliers, or problems during the initial manufacturing and quality testing could easily delay the launch for weeks or months.

Unless the K-new is just a simple copy of the K-3 hardware and firmware with nothing new inside (unlikely!), the only answer is:

"The K-new will be ready when it is ready."

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12-05-2019, 10:34 AM	#721
squareeyes Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 189	Originally posted by rawr But 'perfect is the enemy of good', remember. Why can't good and perfect get along?

12-05-2019, 11:00 AM	#722
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by squareeyes Why can't good and perfect get along? It isn't the qualities that can not get along - it is the people who value one over the other.

12-05-2019, 01:31 PM - 2 Likes	#723
lsimpkins Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SE Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 537	Originally posted by gazonk Since a camera contains software, it can never be perfect, because any bug free software is either outdated or uninteresting ... or imaginary!

12-05-2019, 01:41 PM - 1 Like	#724
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	All software is ‘beta’ until end of life. One can try, but you can never take into account every conceivable way it will be used (or abused) by the end user.

12-05-2019, 01:47 PM - 4 Likes	#725
subsea Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Commack, NY Posts: 2,603	I had a friend whose favorite saying was "It's impossible to make things foolproof because fools are so ingenious!" Seems to fit here.

12-05-2019, 02:08 PM - 3 Likes	#726
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	"There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies." —C.A.R. Hoare

12-05-2019, 02:28 PM	#727
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	It's time to close that thread, already few pages with nothing pertinent regarding the OP subject.

12-05-2019, 03:48 PM	#728
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Mistral75 ...including modesty. It's a dog.

12-05-2019, 04:22 PM	#729
xmeda Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brno Posts: 295	Originally posted by bobmaxja It's time to close that thread, already few pages with nothing pertinent regarding the OP subject. Or maybe lets go back to the subject. Any insider info? Anybody?

12-05-2019, 05:57 PM	#730
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by xmeda Or maybe lets go back to the subject. Any insider info? Anybody? Yeah, I've got some but I can't tell anyone about it!!

12-06-2019, 03:15 AM	#731
zoolander Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Gold Coast Photos: Albums Posts: 351	Originally posted by Karen the Star Name? Here we are Did somebody say KFC?

12-06-2019, 05:04 AM - 1 Like	#732
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by Larrymc Yeah, I've got some but I can't tell anyone about it!! I believe your source is classified. You can tell me but then you'll have to kill me!

12-06-2019, 07:42 AM	#733
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	Originally posted by xmeda Or maybe lets go back to the subject. Any insider info? Anybody? I don't think anyone here has any info. The only person that I could think of would be asahiman on the other forum, but he hasn't really said much about this camera. He has said more stuff about 2 different classes of FF coming up & even then he hasn't given much info about that either.

12-06-2019, 08:03 AM	#734
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by mlt My rescue tri-color Corgi thinks she’s pretty perfect, seems to be a Corgi mindset : Pembrokes feel the same way as Cardigans. They’re just more aggressive about making their feelings known.

12-06-2019, 08:09 AM	#735
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,122	Originally posted by xmeda Or maybe lets go back to the subject. Any insider info? Anybody? I doubt insider information would really help. Although Ricoh's managers (and engineers) certainly have a plan for the likely release date, the actual date is not totally under their control. Issues with the firmware, last-minute feedback from beta testers, updated decisions by marketing/management, delays from parts suppliers, or problems during the initial manufacturing and quality testing could easily delay the launch for weeks or months. Unless the K-new is just a simple copy of the K-3 hardware and firmware with nothing new inside (unlikely!), the only answer is: "The K-new will be ready when it is ready."