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Pely · 12-28-2019, 04:34 AM - **2 Likes**

Just a guess, but the K-new may use IMX571BQR APS-C sensor from Sony. On the other hand, it may use Samsung sensor according some old speculation. I hope for 120p FHD, 4K at 60p is OK for me. And now, Pentax please deliver revamp of 16-50 f/2.8 and 50-135 f/2.8.

redpit · 12-28-2019, 05:19 AM - **1 Like**

I don’t know where these “leaks” came from... if someone can give us some dependable source it would be nice. Even give some hints whether something that they learnt is an estimation or a certain spec of the new camera. I will wait a bit more for an official announcement, because high hopes are being building up and this is the fastest road to frustration and disappointment if the real specs are not so advanced when announced...

gatorguy · 12-28-2019, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by redpit

I don’t know where these “leaks” came from... if someone can give us some dependable source it would be nice. Even give some hints whether something that they learnt is an estimation or a certain spec of the new camera. I will wait a bit more for an official announcement, because high hopes are being building up and this is the fastest road to frustration and disappointment if the real specs are not so advanced when announced...

Is there any semi-official claim that the the new APS-c will be released by June or so? If so I would have to assume more details will be coming from Ricoh within a few weeks, teaser stuff anyway.

reh321 · 12-28-2019, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by PePe

Hmm... What is the point in going from 14 to 16 bits? Even with 14 the last bit is likely to be rather meaningless.

Wouldn’t it gain ~~DOF~~DR?

Last edited by reh321; 12-28-2019 at 09:44 AM.

reh321 · 12-28-2019, 06:44 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by nnky

Pentax K-3 III
BSI APS-C CMOS (26 megapixels) + 99-point cross-type AF + up to 16Bit ADC + Real Extended ISO (50-51200) + 15EV DR + 5.5-stop SR + 4K/20-60p Video

These specifications are nice if true, but main complaints I heard about KP were buffet and battery oriented.

PePe · 12-28-2019, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Wouldn’t it gain DOF?

Depth of field is defined optically by the aperture.
In theory the additional bits could give you more shades,colours,possibly even dynamic range. It is just that even 14 bits is more than current sensors can resolve in real life. And way more than any display or printer can show. The downside is that file sizes continue to grow. Why go this way if the additional bits do not buy you anything?
This is why I started to wonder.

fsge · 12-28-2019, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by reh321

These specifications are nice if true, but main complaints I heard about KP were buffet and battery oriented.

I am not worried about buffer or battery life of Knew, it will not have KP flaws for sure

edri · 12-28-2019, 07:50 AM

I did not have any flaw with the batteries at KP. I think there are more theoretical stories on the forums.

**TwoUptons** · 12-28-2019, 08:13 AM - **2 Likes**

There was talk a few months back (I don't remember where) about a sensor chip that would basically do its own highlight clipping protection.
That took the form of something to the effect of "I had color data at this level X but was exposed to something Y stops higher".
If you had something like that, then 16 bits might be useful. Sure, your monitor won't show it and your printer won't be able to print it, but it would allow a huge amount of manipulation of an image...
I think it would be cool to be able to recover highlight data in the future like we recover shadow data today...

-Eric

**mlt** · 12-28-2019, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by D FA 24 F2

Truth,FWC up to 86ke-
The ultimate dream of landscape photography enthusiasts. Beyond full-frame performance. Even the imx455 in the a7r4 has 51ke-.

What is FWC and 86ke-?

**mlt** · 12-28-2019, 08:23 AM

Will Lightroom or Photoshop know what to do with 16-bit color depth or will get a new version of DCU?

**steamloco76** · 12-28-2019, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by Karen the Star

Name? Here we are

Pentax Kentucky Fried Chicken? K-FC? Someone should really tell Ricoh the name will be a joke in the USA.

**c.a.m** · 12-28-2019, 09:28 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by steamloco76

Pentax Kentucky Fried Chicken? K-FC? Someone should really tell Ricoh the name will be a joke in the USA.

KFC is also popular in Japan, with nearly 1,200 outlets: KFC in Japan - Wikipedia

Mistral75 · 12-28-2019, 09:32 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by mlt

What is FWC and 86ke-?

Full Well Capacity of 86,000 electrons.

It defines the amount of charge an individual pixel can hold before saturating.

house · 12-28-2019, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Full Well Capacity of 86,000 electrons.

It defines the amount of charge an individual pixel can hold before saturating.

Thanks was also wondering about this. What's the KP full well spec?

12-28-2019, 06:52 AM	#981
PePe Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Helsinki, Finland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 597	Originally posted by reh321 Wouldn’t it gain DOF? Depth of field is defined optically by the aperture. In theory the additional bits could give you more shades,colours,possibly even dynamic range. It is just that even 14 bits is more than current sensors can resolve in real life. And way more than any display or printer can show. The downside is that file sizes continue to grow. Why go this way if the additional bits do not buy you anything? This is why I started to wonder. Last edited by PePe; 12-28-2019 at 07:30 AM.

12-28-2019, 08:23 AM	#986
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Will Lightroom or Photoshop know what to do with 16-bit color depth or will get a new version of DCU? Last edited by mlt; 12-28-2019 at 08:59 AM. Reason: Spell check

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12-28-2019, 04:34 AM - 2 Likes	#976
Pely New Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Moravia (East side of Czech Republic). Posts: 10	Just a guess, but the K-new may use IMX571BQR APS-C sensor from Sony. On the other hand, it may use Samsung sensor according some old speculation. I hope for 120p FHD, 4K at 60p is OK for me. And now, Pentax please deliver revamp of 16-50 f/2.8 and 50-135 f/2.8.

12-28-2019, 05:19 AM - 1 Like	#977
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,858	I don’t know where these “leaks” came from... if someone can give us some dependable source it would be nice. Even give some hints whether something that they learnt is an estimation or a certain spec of the new camera. I will wait a bit more for an official announcement, because high hopes are being building up and this is the fastest road to frustration and disappointment if the real specs are not so advanced when announced...

12-28-2019, 05:38 AM	#978
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,094	Originally posted by redpit I don’t know where these “leaks” came from... if someone can give us some dependable source it would be nice. Even give some hints whether something that they learnt is an estimation or a certain spec of the new camera. I will wait a bit more for an official announcement, because high hopes are being building up and this is the fastest road to frustration and disappointment if the real specs are not so advanced when announced... Is there any semi-official claim that the the new APS-c will be released by June or so? If so I would have to assume more details will be coming from Ricoh within a few weeks, teaser stuff anyway.

12-28-2019, 05:50 AM	#979
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by PePe Hmm... What is the point in going from 14 to 16 bits? Even with 14 the last bit is likely to be rather meaningless. Wouldn’t it gain ~~DOF~~DR? Last edited by reh321; 12-28-2019 at 09:44 AM.

12-28-2019, 06:44 AM - 1 Like	#980
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by nnky Pentax K-3 III BSI APS-C CMOS (26 megapixels) + 99-point cross-type AF + up to 16Bit ADC + Real Extended ISO (50-51200) + 15EV DR + 5.5-stop SR + 4K/20-60p Video These specifications are nice if true, but main complaints I heard about KP were buffet and battery oriented.

12-28-2019, 07:45 AM	#982
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by reh321 These specifications are nice if true, but main complaints I heard about KP were buffet and battery oriented. I am not worried about buffer or battery life of Knew, it will not have KP flaws for sure

12-28-2019, 07:50 AM	#983
edri Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: walking in the air Posts: 1,315	I did not have any flaw with the batteries at KP. I think there are more theoretical stories on the forums.

12-28-2019, 08:13 AM - 2 Likes	#984
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,227	There was talk a few months back (I don't remember where) about a sensor chip that would basically do its own highlight clipping protection. That took the form of something to the effect of "I had color data at this level X but was exposed to something Y stops higher". If you had something like that, then 16 bits might be useful. Sure, your monitor won't show it and your printer won't be able to print it, but it would allow a huge amount of manipulation of an image... I think it would be cool to be able to recover highlight data in the future like we recover shadow data today... -Eric

12-28-2019, 08:21 AM	#985
mlt Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,159	Originally posted by D FA 24 F2 Truth,FWC up to 86ke- The ultimate dream of landscape photography enthusiasts. Beyond full-frame performance. Even the imx455 in the a7r4 has 51ke-. What is FWC and 86ke-?

12-28-2019, 08:40 AM	#987
steamloco76 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,710	Originally posted by Karen the Star Name? Here we are Pentax Kentucky Fried Chicken? K-FC? Someone should really tell Ricoh the name will be a joke in the USA.

12-28-2019, 09:28 AM - 1 Like	#988
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,194	Originally posted by steamloco76 Pentax Kentucky Fried Chicken? K-FC? Someone should really tell Ricoh the name will be a joke in the USA. KFC is also popular in Japan, with nearly 1,200 outlets: KFC in Japan - Wikipedia

12-28-2019, 09:32 AM - 4 Likes	#989
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by mlt What is FWC and 86ke-? Full Well Capacity of 86,000 electrons. It defines the amount of charge an individual pixel can hold before saturating.

12-28-2019, 09:38 AM	#990
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	Originally posted by Mistral75 Full Well Capacity of 86,000 electrons. It defines the amount of charge an individual pixel can hold before saturating. Thanks was also wondering about this. What's the KP full well spec?

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