New information about new flagship's selling date

reh321 · 01-05-2020, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by WorksAsIntended

I personally aggree, but the k3 ii is officially out of production and Pentax themselves thought of the kp as a replacement. I decided to go for the k3-ii although the kp was already available at that time.

As I understand it, most Pentax statements have said that the KP was never intended as "flagship"; my suspicion is that they thought of the K-1 series as now being only being only flagships, were caught by surprise by the reaction that they are too slow in native mode and too small in crop mode, and have been improvising ever since.

WorksAsIntended · 01-05-2020, 01:08 PM

I remember reading differently, but cannot provide the source right now and it would be a single source anyway. You are propably right about this.

Are there any backside pictures from the k-new modell prototype?

H. Sapiens · 01-05-2020, 01:14 PM

Touch screen?

When I hand my camera to someone, they often want to treat the screen as a touch screen - pinch and zoom. I see the relevance of that, even if I think it is a feature wayyyy down on my list.

Other than that, what are the benefits of a touch screen on a DSLR?

WorksAsIntended · 01-05-2020, 01:16 PM - **1 Like**

It will be harder to get your nose prints in an investigation as they are overshadowed by finger prints.

On a more serious note: It is just the way to go these days. Also: If you are using live view it is really handy to set a focus point this way.

**Larrymc** · 01-05-2020, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by WorksAsIntended

It will be harder to get your nose prints in an investigation as they are overshadowed by finger prints.

On a more serious note: It is just the way to go these days. Also: If you are using live view it is really handy to set a focus point this way.

Here you go Close-up Photos: New Pentax APS-C Flagship - Pentax Announcements | PentaxForums.com look closely.

H. Sapiens · 01-05-2020, 01:18 PM

... I could see the advantage if you could point on an exact point on the screen and AF would lock on that. But that is not going to work on a DSLR - at least not 100%

reh321 · 01-05-2020, 01:19 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by WorksAsIntended

I remember reading differently, but cannot provide the source right now and it would be a single source anyway. You are propably right about this.

Are there any backside pictures from the k-new modell prototype?

A prototype has been present at every 100th Celebration, and every report thread I have seen has had several photos of it. The one below was posted here:

New K-series DSLR under development to be exhibited - PentaxForums.com

WorksAsIntended · 01-05-2020, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

Here you go Close-up Photos: New Pentax APS-C Flagship - Pentax Announcements | PentaxForums.com look closely.

Thank you!

I see a few things I wont like but this might be rather personal.

Mistral75 · 01-05-2020, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by WorksAsIntended

(...)

Are there any backside pictures from the k-new modell prototype?

**Larrymc** · 01-05-2020, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by H. Sapiens

Touch screen?

When I hand my camera to someone, they often want to treat the screen as a touch screen - pinch and zoom. I see the relevance of that, even if I think it is a feature wayyyy down on my list.

Other than that, what are the benefits of a touch screen on a DSLR?

Obviously clueless smart phone users!

WorksAsIntended · 01-05-2020, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by H. Sapiens

... I could see the advantage if you could point on an exact point on the screen and AF would lock on that. But that is not going to work on a DSLR - at least not 100%

In live view mode where it uses contrast af it already does for other brands. Why should it not be possible?

---------- Post added 01-05-20 at 01:23 PM ----------

Originally posted by Mistral75

Thank you. I did miss a few monthes of rumours, obviously. :P

reh321 · 01-05-2020, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by H. Sapiens

Touch screen?

When I hand my camera to someone, they often want to treat the screen as a touch screen - pinch and zoom. I see the relevance of that, even if I think it is a feature wayyyy down on my list.

Other than that, what are the benefits of a touch screen on a DSLR?

Since so many have been sold, the best source would probably people actually using the GR3.
Wander over there, and ask whether and how they are actually using it.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/161-ricoh-gr/

**Larrymc** · 01-05-2020, 01:27 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Tesla

Simply disable the touch part of the screen when the screen is flipped out. I don't see why it has to be an issue.

With both I suspect the K-New will bump up against a price ceiling Ricoh/Pentax may not be willing to get above.

Tesla · 01-05-2020, 01:28 PM

Another theory on the proximity sensor is that it would turn on a hybrid VF.

gatorguy · 01-05-2020, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by WorksAsIntended

Other manufacturers seem to have found working solutions for this. Look at the Nikon D850 which is designed for rough daily use having both a touch and a movable screen.

If Pentax would release this camera, I would immidiatly go for it.

Thanks for pointing that out. After doing a bit'o'reading I can see I'm mistaken. There's several premium cameras out there with movable touchscreens.

01-05-2020, 01:14 PM	#1143
H. Sapiens Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 328	Touch screen? When I hand my camera to someone, they often want to treat the screen as a touch screen - pinch and zoom. I see the relevance of that, even if I think it is a feature wayyyy down on my list. Other than that, what are the benefits of a touch screen on a DSLR? Last edited by H. Sapiens; 01-05-2020 at 01:15 PM. Reason: grammar

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01-05-2020, 01:04 PM	#1141
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by WorksAsIntended I personally aggree, but the k3 ii is officially out of production and Pentax themselves thought of the kp as a replacement. I decided to go for the k3-ii although the kp was already available at that time. As I understand it, most Pentax statements have said that the KP was never intended as "flagship"; my suspicion is that they thought of the K-1 series as now being only being only flagships, were caught by surprise by the reaction that they are too slow in native mode and too small in crop mode, and have been improvising ever since.

01-05-2020, 01:08 PM	#1142
WorksAsIntended Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 639	I remember reading differently, but cannot provide the source right now and it would be a single source anyway. You are propably right about this. Are there any backside pictures from the k-new modell prototype?

01-05-2020, 01:16 PM - 1 Like	#1144
WorksAsIntended Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 639	It will be harder to get your nose prints in an investigation as they are overshadowed by finger prints. On a more serious note: It is just the way to go these days. Also: If you are using live view it is really handy to set a focus point this way.

01-05-2020, 01:17 PM	#1145
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by WorksAsIntended It will be harder to get your nose prints in an investigation as they are overshadowed by finger prints. On a more serious note: It is just the way to go these days. Also: If you are using live view it is really handy to set a focus point this way. Here you go Close-up Photos: New Pentax APS-C Flagship - Pentax Announcements \| PentaxForums.com look closely.

01-05-2020, 01:18 PM	#1146
H. Sapiens Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 328	... I could see the advantage if you could point on an exact point on the screen and AF would lock on that. But that is not going to work on a DSLR - at least not 100%

01-05-2020, 01:19 PM - 1 Like	#1147
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by WorksAsIntended I remember reading differently, but cannot provide the source right now and it would be a single source anyway. You are propably right about this. Are there any backside pictures from the k-new modell prototype? A prototype has been present at every 100th Celebration, and every report thread I have seen has had several photos of it. The one below was posted here: New K-series DSLR under development to be exhibited - PentaxForums.com

01-05-2020, 01:21 PM	#1148
WorksAsIntended Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 639	Originally posted by Larrymc Here you go Close-up Photos: New Pentax APS-C Flagship - Pentax Announcements \| PentaxForums.com look closely. Thank you! I see a few things I wont like but this might be rather personal.

01-05-2020, 01:21 PM	#1149
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by WorksAsIntended (...) Are there any backside pictures from the k-new modell prototype?

01-05-2020, 01:22 PM	#1150
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by H. Sapiens Touch screen? When I hand my camera to someone, they often want to treat the screen as a touch screen - pinch and zoom. I see the relevance of that, even if I think it is a feature wayyyy down on my list. Other than that, what are the benefits of a touch screen on a DSLR? Obviously clueless smart phone users!

01-05-2020, 01:22 PM	#1151
WorksAsIntended Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 639	Originally posted by H. Sapiens ... I could see the advantage if you could point on an exact point on the screen and AF would lock on that. But that is not going to work on a DSLR - at least not 100% In live view mode where it uses contrast af it already does for other brands. Why should it not be possible? ---------- Post added 01-05-20 at 01:23 PM ---------- Originally posted by Mistral75 Thank you. I did miss a few monthes of rumours, obviously. :P

01-05-2020, 01:26 PM	#1152
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by H. Sapiens Touch screen? When I hand my camera to someone, they often want to treat the screen as a touch screen - pinch and zoom. I see the relevance of that, even if I think it is a feature wayyyy down on my list. Other than that, what are the benefits of a touch screen on a DSLR? Since so many have been sold, the best source would probably people actually using the GR3. Wander over there, and ask whether and how they are actually using it. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/161-ricoh-gr/

01-05-2020, 01:27 PM - 1 Like	#1153
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Originally posted by Tesla Simply disable the touch part of the screen when the screen is flipped out. I don't see why it has to be an issue. With both I suspect the K-New will bump up against a price ceiling Ricoh/Pentax may not be willing to get above.

01-05-2020, 01:28 PM	#1154
Tesla Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 589	Another theory on the proximity sensor is that it would turn on a hybrid VF.

01-05-2020, 01:34 PM	#1155
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by WorksAsIntended Other manufacturers seem to have found working solutions for this. Look at the Nikon D850 which is designed for rough daily use having both a touch and a movable screen. If Pentax would release this camera, I would immidiatly go for it. Thanks for pointing that out. After doing a bit'o'reading I can see I'm mistaken. There's several premium cameras out there with movable touchscreens.