New information about new flagship's selling date

OoKU · 02-19-2020, 08:50 PM - **1 Like**

Later than summer…

reh321 · 02-19-2020, 09:46 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Larrymc

?????? What?????? Where did that come from?

Did you read the first post in this thread?

Originally posted by Karen the Star

When I read this I feel a little bad mood, from website 「デジカメInfo」, which means digital camera information, I've got a news said that the new APS-C flagship will on sell in Summer 2020, for me this means quite being delayed

Also, the news said the screen on camera will be unable to pull out, sorry don't know how to write that in English with single word

, but I don't believe this

seems the information is from Kimio Takana's feeling about when he touch this prototype,
think about last twitter of him, he foreseen that camera's detail will be release on 2020, however it was announced just last month actually, so his utterance is not absolutely correct

you can also see more information with this link:
??????APS-C???????????????? - ????info
Photo of the Day 11?4?

although I see Ooku is saying now that it will be even later.

BarneyL · 02-19-2020, 11:40 PM

2021 or later?

dstar · 02-20-2020, 12:42 AM

I think we need look to face real situation
Sony stop do new development and go forward with new camera per corona viruses problem
It was petapix web
Even with huge financial advanced Sony has problem
I presume Pentax has same problem

I think best way just wait

ebk · 02-20-2020, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by BarneyL

2021 or later?

new pentax dslr?

it's a fairy tale

taktoon · 02-20-2020, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by OoKU

Later than summer…

Is this for reaL?

beholder3 · 02-20-2020, 02:22 AM

Sounds like the typical October announcement timeframe.

No need to hurry this.

**Serkevan** · 02-20-2020, 02:30 AM - **1 Like**

No one who has said anything about it knows anything.

Stop giving credit to random internet posts.

MJKoski · 02-20-2020, 03:33 AM

It is clear that there is no real date available to public. Thus, Pentax should cancel this APS-C thing and announce K-1 MK3 using the new 61MP Sony sensor. MK2 is 2-year old re-released MK1 with an extra sugar coating on top of the cake.

**Rondec** · 02-20-2020, 03:37 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MJKoski

It is clear that there is no real date available to public. Thus, Pentax should cancel this APS-C thing and announce K-1 MK3 using the new 61MP Sony sensor. MK2 is 2-year old re-released MK1 with an extra sugar coating on top of the cake.

I don't know about that specific sensor, but my guess is that Pentax is going to share a lot of things between this new APS-C camera and any new full frame camera they would come out with. Thus, it is pretty important that they finish it the rest of the way.

biz-engineer · 02-20-2020, 04:16 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by MJKoski

It is clear that there is no real date available to public. Thus, Pentax should cancel this APS-C thing and announce K-1 MK3 using the new 61MP Sony sensor.

They would first need to upgrade the image processing engine, or stop making cameras. New specs and sensors are such that the current K1/K3 image processing unit can't handle anything like 26Mp @ 16 FPS or 61Mp @ 7 FPS, 4K video, over anything like UHSII or XQD or CF express. Basically, Ricoh must start (or must have started) with a new image processing plateform or just stop making cameras. Once they have a high performing image processor, they can refactor the engine for apsc, full frame, whatever. Image processing doesn't care about sensor size, it only has to be able to digest enough data such that camera performance is comparable to what Fuji, Canon, Nikon, Sony are using for their new camera models.

MJKoski · 02-20-2020, 04:46 AM

Of course they must upgrade the image processing pipeline. It is just that 36MP is getting a bit long in the tooth and K-1 should be the flagship product considering IQ (and price).

WorksAsIntended · 02-20-2020, 04:50 AM - **1 Like**

I still prefer higher fps, more dynamic range and less noise over higher resolution.
I never had a single situation where I wished for more than 36MPx.

Reed · 02-20-2020, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

They would first need to upgrade the image processing engine, or stop making cameras. New specs and sensors are such that the current K1/K3 image processing unit can't handle anything like 26Mp @ 16 FPS or 61Mp @ 7 FPS, 4K video, over anything like UHSII or XQD or CF express. Basically, Ricoh must start (or must have started) with a new image processing plateform or just stop making cameras. Once they have a high performing image processor, they can refactor the engine for apsc, full frame, whatever. Image processing doesn't care about sensor size, it only has to be able to digest enough data such that camera performance is comparable to what Fuji, Canon, Nikon, Sony are using for their new camera models.

You're probably right on that. Dropping milibeaut platform, dating back to K-7 might be the case why new model is in works for so long. And well there is no new milibeaut solution listed on Socionext site for some time now. Still, I think they are working hard on that new gear.

redpit · 02-20-2020, 05:02 AM - **1 Like**

The sure thing is that the development team will have many stories about challenges succesfully faced, for the dedicated webpage, as was the case for the K-1.

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02-19-2020, 08:50 PM - 1 Like	#1501
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	Later than summer…

02-19-2020, 09:46 PM - 1 Like	#1502
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by Larrymc ?????? What?????? Where did that come from? Did you read the first post in this thread? Originally posted by Karen the Star When I read this I feel a little bad mood, from website 「デジカメInfo」, which means digital camera information, I've got a news said that the new APS-C flagship will on sell in Summer 2020, for me this means quite being delayed Also, the news said the screen on camera will be unable to pull out, sorry don't know how to write that in English with single word , but I don't believe this seems the information is from Kimio Takana's feeling about when he touch this prototype, think about last twitter of him, he foreseen that camera's detail will be release on 2020, however it was announced just last month actually, so his utterance is not absolutely correct you can also see more information with this link: ??????APS-C???????????????? - ????info Photo of the Day 11?4? although I see Ooku is saying now that it will be even later.

02-19-2020, 11:40 PM	#1503
BarneyL Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 899	2021 or later?

02-20-2020, 12:42 AM	#1504
dstar Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 475	I think we need look to face real situation Sony stop do new development and go forward with new camera per corona viruses problem It was petapix web Even with huge financial advanced Sony has problem I presume Pentax has same problem I think best way just wait

02-20-2020, 01:59 AM	#1505
ebk Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Utrecht Posts: 148	Originally posted by BarneyL 2021 or later? new pentax dslr? it's a fairy tale

02-20-2020, 02:05 AM	#1506
taktoon Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 605	Originally posted by OoKU Later than summer… Is this for reaL?

02-20-2020, 02:22 AM	#1507
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Sounds like the typical October announcement timeframe. No need to hurry this.

02-20-2020, 02:30 AM - 1 Like	#1508
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	No one who has said anything about it *knows anything.* Stop giving credit to random internet posts.

02-20-2020, 03:33 AM	#1509
MJKoski Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,784	It is clear that there is no real date available to public. Thus, Pentax should cancel this APS-C thing and announce K-1 MK3 using the new 61MP Sony sensor. MK2 is 2-year old re-released MK1 with an extra sugar coating on top of the cake.

02-20-2020, 03:37 AM - 1 Like	#1510
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	Originally posted by MJKoski It is clear that there is no real date available to public. Thus, Pentax should cancel this APS-C thing and announce K-1 MK3 using the new 61MP Sony sensor. MK2 is 2-year old re-released MK1 with an extra sugar coating on top of the cake. I don't know about that specific sensor, but my guess is that Pentax is going to share a lot of things between this new APS-C camera and any new full frame camera they would come out with. Thus, it is pretty important that they finish it the rest of the way.

02-20-2020, 04:16 AM - 2 Likes	#1511
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	Originally posted by MJKoski It is clear that there is no real date available to public. Thus, Pentax should cancel this APS-C thing and announce K-1 MK3 using the new 61MP Sony sensor. They would first need to upgrade the image processing engine, or stop making cameras. New specs and sensors are such that the current K1/K3 image processing unit can't handle anything like 26Mp @ 16 FPS or 61Mp @ 7 FPS, 4K video, over anything like UHSII or XQD or CF express. Basically, Ricoh must start (or must have started) with a new image processing plateform or just stop making cameras. Once they have a high performing image processor, they can refactor the engine for apsc, full frame, whatever. Image processing doesn't care about sensor size, it only has to be able to digest enough data such that camera performance is comparable to what Fuji, Canon, Nikon, Sony are using for their new camera models.

02-20-2020, 04:46 AM	#1512
MJKoski Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,784	Of course they must upgrade the image processing pipeline. It is just that 36MP is getting a bit long in the tooth and K-1 should be the flagship product considering IQ (and price).

02-20-2020, 04:50 AM - 1 Like	#1513
WorksAsIntended Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 639	I still prefer higher fps, more dynamic range and less noise over higher resolution. I never had a single situation where I wished for more than 36MPx.

02-20-2020, 04:53 AM	#1514
Reed Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Warsaw Photos: Gallery Posts: 638	Originally posted by biz-engineer They would first need to upgrade the image processing engine, or stop making cameras. New specs and sensors are such that the current K1/K3 image processing unit can't handle anything like 26Mp @ 16 FPS or 61Mp @ 7 FPS, 4K video, over anything like UHSII or XQD or CF express. Basically, Ricoh must start (or must have started) with a new image processing plateform or just stop making cameras. Once they have a high performing image processor, they can refactor the engine for apsc, full frame, whatever. Image processing doesn't care about sensor size, it only has to be able to digest enough data such that camera performance is comparable to what Fuji, Canon, Nikon, Sony are using for their new camera models. You're probably right on that. Dropping milibeaut platform, dating back to K-7 might be the case why new model is in works for so long. And well there is no new milibeaut solution listed on Socionext site for some time now. Still, I think they are working hard on that new gear.

02-20-2020, 05:02 AM - 1 Like	#1515
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	The sure thing is that the development team will have many stories about challenges succesfully faced, for the dedicated webpage, as was the case for the K-1.

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