What is hidden behind this door? (Advent calendar)

**monochrome** · 12-25-2019, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Nothing that the Professional Eeyores™ say surprises me. Though sometimes one wishes someone would take them out to the 100 Acre Woods and give them a good hiding

Take care. I once received a mark for using the EeyoreTM

troenaas · 12-25-2019, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

A lens can also fit a teleconverter.

And a reverse ring.

**kwb** · 12-26-2019, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

The one for the "Q" was particularly strange (humorous?) in that the lack of an EVF is a well-known and oft-mentioned short-fall of the series. The idea that it and its progeny are a continuation of the Pentax Auto 110 cameras from the early 1980s only added to the levity.

Steve

Hi Steve, there's some truth about Auto 110 lineage.

Pentax itself revealed that the original idea of Q dates back to their proof-of-the-concept experiment "auto 110 digital" at around 2000. It was a CCD sensor in an Auto110 body connected to an external board by a bunch of test leads, it actually was able to capture photos.
The concept was no-go at the time, they (developers who wanted to make it) regularly made new proposals, each time the manager rejected it, until finally the market trend changed somewhat in 2009.

?????????????????????PENTAX Q | RICOH IMAGING

stevebrot · 12-26-2019, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by kwb

Hi Steve, there's some truth about Auto 110 lineage.

Pentax itself revealed that the original idea of Q dates back to their proof-of-the-concept experiment "auto 110 digital" at around 2000. It was a CCD sensor in an Auto110 body connected to an external board by a bunch of test leads, it actually was able to capture photos.
The concept was no-go at the time, they (developers who wanted to make it) regularly made new proposals, each time the manager rejected it, until finally the market trend changed somewhat in 2009.

?????????????????????PENTAX Q | RICOH IMAGING

Interesting...

The key word is "continuation" (used in the advent calendar post). The Auto 110 line went off the market in 1985 and the Q launched 26 years later. I would expect a "continuation" to be an SLR with a sensor size somewhat close to the 13x17mm size of the 110 frame. I would also expect a few intermediate models and maybe even a continuation of the Auto 110 mount or adaptability of the older camera's lenses to the Q-mount. As it is, the common properties are that both are ILC of similar size with both sporting the Pentax name on the front.

Steve

reh321 · 12-26-2019, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Interesting...

The key word is "continuation" (used in the advent calendar post). The Auto 110 line went off the market in 1985 and the Q launched 26 years later. I would expect a "continuation" to be an SLR with a sensor size somewhat close to the 13x17mm size of the 110 frame. I would also expect a few intermediate models and maybe even a continuation of the Auto 110 mount or adaptability of the older camera's lenses to the Q-mount. As it is, the common properties are that both are ILC of similar size with both sporting the Pentax name on the front.

Steve

The biggest commonality I see is use case - I use my Q-7 exactly as I used my 110 camera - the camera I grab for photograph at home, and what I take with me I’m not sure whether or not I’ll see anything to photograph.

**James also** · 12-26-2019, 06:38 PM

Now Christmas is over maybe it is time to release the latest camera in time for the boxing day sales.

Probably a good thing as the wallet is starting to strain already.

redpit · 12-27-2019, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Welp, a curveball out of left field. Can't say I expected that

That makes us two. I thought it was a good time for some more info about the K-new, but they seem to keep it for 2020...

reh321 · 12-27-2019, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by H. Sapiens

And a confirmation that K mount is here to stay.

As though they have a choice. K-mount is a major part of the wealth they purchased.

Mistral75 · 12-27-2019, 05:45 AM

Originally posted by redpit

That makes us two. I thought it was a good time for some more info about the K-new, but they seem to keep it for 2020...

...or later™.

reh321 · 12-27-2019, 05:50 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mistral75

...or later™.

The seem to have said the announcement will come next year. We don't need any more FUD here.

**clickclick** · 12-29-2019, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by reh321

The seem to have said the announcement will come next year. We don't need any more FUD here.

We'll have to listen closely to see if in three days someone at Ricoh mumbles next year, again.

M.B.Yates · 12-29-2019, 11:21 PM - **1 Like**

Maybe they will really surprise us all by reviving the 600mm f4 with HD coating .... at the same time.

redpit · 12-30-2019, 12:23 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by M.B.Yates

Maybe they will really surprise us all by reviving the 600mm f4 with HD coating .... at the same time.

When the KP was released the DA* 11-18 followed that matched its character. Now with a K-3 successor there should come a tele lens to match its character as a fast/sport/wildlife camera as well. I would love to see such a monster or any tele prime but I think the 70-300 would be the one from the roadmap that could "match" the K-new release and also fill the FF gap of a "cheap" tele to go with the 28-105.

Since the 55-300 plm will find a body to further utilize its potential, and the 70-300 will be a lens for the FF/APS-C users a surprise would be more than welcome, even if it will be another dot on the new lens roadmap.

Mistral75 · 12-30-2019, 02:12 AM - **1 Like**

Don't forget the HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/4.

biz-engineer · 12-30-2019, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

A15/3.5 | A20/2.8 | A50/1.2 | A35~105/3.5K17/4FE | K18/3.5 | K20/4 | K24/2.8 | K24/3.5 | K28/2 | K28/3.5 | K28/3.5 SHIFT | K30/2.8 | K35/2 | K35/3.5 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K50/4 Macro | K55/1.8 | K55/2 | K85/1.8 | K100/4 Bellows | K100/4 Macro | K105/2.8 | K120/2.8 | K135/2.5 | K135/3.5 | K150/4 | K200/2.5 | K200/4 | K400/5.6 | K500/4.5 | K1000/8I think it was a fun series and I’m somewhat surprised by the few cynical comments

Using vintage lenses instead of buying new lenses from Ricoh is the nastiest thing that can be done to hurt the Pentax business.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Abstract Hidden behind branches, a lonely street lamp	SunnyG.	Post Your Photos!	2	07-25-2018 12:25 AM
Abstract Advent in Norway too	Janse	Post Your Photos!	1	12-02-2015 03:45 PM
Night Advent Candle	rojaba	Post Your Photos!	1	12-07-2014 08:33 AM
Architecture Door to door...	Neville	Post Your Photos!	8	02-12-2014 10:48 PM
Misc back door, front door - lorikeets & Rouletts	Cee Cee	Post Your Photos!	12	03-21-2013 10:55 PM

12-25-2019, 07:04 AM	#256
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Not a Number Nothing that the Professional Eeyores™ say surprises me. Though sometimes one wishes someone would take them out to the 100 Acre Woods and give them a good hiding Take care. I once received a mark for using the EeyoreTM

12-25-2019, 10:26 AM	#257
troenaas Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 668	Originally posted by Mistral75 A lens can also fit a teleconverter. And a reverse ring.

12-26-2019, 05:20 PM	#258
kwb Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Pacific North West Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,223	Originally posted by stevebrot The one for the "Q" was particularly strange (humorous?) in that the lack of an EVF is a well-known and oft-mentioned short-fall of the series. The idea that it and its progeny are a continuation of the Pentax Auto 110 cameras from the early 1980s only added to the levity. Steve Hi Steve, there's some truth about Auto 110 lineage. Pentax itself revealed that the original idea of Q dates back to their proof-of-the-concept experiment "auto 110 digital" at around 2000. It was a CCD sensor in an Auto110 body connected to an external board by a bunch of test leads, it actually was able to capture photos. The concept was no-go at the time, they (developers who wanted to make it) regularly made new proposals, each time the manager rejected it, until finally the market trend changed somewhat in 2009. ?????????????????????PENTAX Q \| RICOH IMAGING

12-26-2019, 06:18 PM	#259
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by kwb Hi Steve, there's some truth about Auto 110 lineage. Pentax itself revealed that the original idea of Q dates back to their proof-of-the-concept experiment "auto 110 digital" at around 2000. It was a CCD sensor in an Auto110 body connected to an external board by a bunch of test leads, it actually was able to capture photos. The concept was no-go at the time, they (developers who wanted to make it) regularly made new proposals, each time the manager rejected it, until finally the market trend changed somewhat in 2009. ?????????????????????PENTAX Q \| RICOH IMAGING Interesting... The key word is "continuation" (used in the advent calendar post). The Auto 110 line went off the market in 1985 and the Q launched 26 years later. I would expect a "continuation" to be an SLR with a sensor size somewhat close to the 13x17mm size of the 110 frame. I would also expect a few intermediate models and maybe even a continuation of the Auto 110 mount or adaptability of the older camera's lenses to the Q-mount. As it is, the common properties are that both are ILC of similar size with both sporting the Pentax name on the front. Steve

12-26-2019, 06:25 PM	#260
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by stevebrot Interesting... The key word is "continuation" (used in the advent calendar post). The Auto 110 line went off the market in 1985 and the Q launched 26 years later. I would expect a "continuation" to be an SLR with a sensor size somewhat close to the 13x17mm size of the 110 frame. I would also expect a few intermediate models and maybe even a continuation of the Auto 110 mount or adaptability of the older camera's lenses to the Q-mount. As it is, the common properties are that both are ILC of similar size with both sporting the Pentax name on the front. Steve The biggest commonality I see is use case - I use my Q-7 exactly as I used my 110 camera - the camera I grab for photograph at home, and what I take with me I’m not sure whether or not I’ll see anything to photograph.

12-26-2019, 06:38 PM	#261
James also Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 330	Now Christmas is over maybe it is time to release the latest camera in time for the boxing day sales. Probably a good thing as the wallet is starting to strain already.

12-27-2019, 03:33 AM	#262
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by Serkevan Welp, a curveball out of left field. Can't say I expected that That makes us two. I thought it was a good time for some more info about the K-new, but they seem to keep it for 2020...

12-27-2019, 05:44 AM	#263
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by H. Sapiens And a confirmation that K mount is here to stay. As though they have a choice. K-mount is a major part of the wealth they purchased.

12-27-2019, 05:45 AM	#264
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by redpit That makes us two. I thought it was a good time for some more info about the K-new, but they seem to keep it for 2020... ...or later™.

12-27-2019, 05:50 AM - 1 Like	#265
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by Mistral75 ...or later™. The seem to have said the announcement will come next year. We don't need any more FUD here.

12-29-2019, 05:48 PM	#266
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	Originally posted by reh321 The seem to have said the announcement will come next year. We don't need any more FUD here. We'll have to listen closely to see if in three days someone at Ricoh mumbles next year, again.

12-29-2019, 11:21 PM - 1 Like	#267
M.B.Yates Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Photos: Gallery Posts: 52	Maybe they will really surprise us all by reviving the 600mm f4 with HD coating .... at the same time.

12-30-2019, 12:23 AM - 1 Like	#268
redpit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greece Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by M.B.Yates Maybe they will really surprise us all by reviving the 600mm f4 with HD coating .... at the same time. When the KP was released the DA* 11-18 followed that matched its character. Now with a K-3 successor there should come a tele lens to match its character as a fast/sport/wildlife camera as well. I would love to see such a monster or any tele prime but I think the 70-300 would be the one from the roadmap that could "match" the K-new release and also fill the FF gap of a "cheap" tele to go with the 28-105. Since the 55-300 plm will find a body to further utilize its potential, and the 70-300 will be a lens for the FF/APS-C users a surprise would be more than welcome, even if it will be another dot on the new lens roadmap.

12-30-2019, 02:12 AM - 1 Like	#269
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Don't forget the HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/4.

12-30-2019, 02:19 AM	#270
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by monochrome A15/3.5 \| A20/2.8 \| A50/1.2 \| A35~105/3.5K17/4FE \| K18/3.5 \| K20/4 \| K24/2.8 \| K24/3.5 \| K28/2 \| K28/3.5 \| K28/3.5 SHIFT \| K30/2.8 \| K35/2 \| K35/3.5 \| K50/1.2 \| K50/1.4 \| K50/4 Macro \| K55/1.8 \| K55/2 \| K85/1.8 \| K100/4 Bellows \| K100/4 Macro \| K105/2.8 \| K120/2.8 \| K135/2.5 \| K135/3.5 \| K150/4 \| K200/2.5 \| K200/4 \| K400/5.6 \| K500/4.5 \| K1000/8I think it was a fun series and I’m somewhat surprised by the few cynical comments Using vintage lenses instead of buying new lenses from Ricoh is the nastiest thing that can be done to hurt the Pentax business.