HD Pentax-D FA 70-210mm f/4 ED SDM WR

stevebrot · 01-22-2020, 04:07 PM - **1 Like**

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Wheatfield · 01-22-2020, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Serkevan

The main reason people are irked by the price is not the price 'in a vacuum', but that it costs almost three times (in Europe at least) the price of a new 'original' Tamron 70-210 in Canikon mount, because we are comparing launch price vs discounted price of a 1.5 year old release... although the comparison matters if you're in the market for one such lens *today*. After the street price goes down it will be better

To be fair, we are still looking at a rumoured street price, or perhaps an MSRP.

stevebrot · 01-22-2020, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by phoebus

SRS Pentax 70-210 pre-orders

Only £1199....

$1100 USD launch price here in the U.S.

Originally posted by Wheatfield

To be fair, we are still looking at a rumoured street price, or perhaps an MSRP.

Pre-order price...

https://us.ricoh-imaging.com/product/hd-pentax-d-fa-70-210mm-f4-ed-sdm-wr/

Steve

stevebrot · 01-22-2020, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by clickclick

I just took a quick trip over to B&H to check out the Nikon variant, and it shows a 6 year "limited" warranty. Hhhmmmmm

Tamron 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD Lens for Nikon F AFA034N-700 B&H

Yep...That is the standard Tamron warranty.

Steve

**rosettaquarrier** · 01-22-2020, 04:39 PM

No Tripod foot though? Disappointing

Paul the Sunman · 01-22-2020, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by rosettaquarrier

No Tripod foot though? Disappointing

They're selling it as "portable". I guess the absence of a tripod foot is consistent with that.

reh321 · 01-22-2020, 04:56 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by rosettaquarrier

No Tripod foot though? Disappointing

Yes, it is "disappointing" that so few photographers understand why they were given a left hand, and will complain about what they see as shortcomings of Pentax.

**luftfluss** · 01-22-2020, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by rosettaquarrier

No Tripod foot though? Disappointing

You don't think the camera's tripod socket is up to the task?

MikeyBugs95 · 01-22-2020, 05:06 PM

I'm sure that the Tamron tripod foot that they sell separately will fit.

mee · 01-22-2020, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by rosettaquarrier

No Tripod foot though? Disappointing

This lens is sub 2 lbs. It's light. You won't need the tripod foot.

I've never needed the tripod foot with my Tamron version. And that version is heavier (due to the VC) than the Pentax variant.

You'll be fine.

If you really miss it, you can buy a CHI-NA knock off for cheap on ebay Elefront Tripod Mount Ring for Tamron 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD (Model A034) | eBay

stevebrot · 01-22-2020, 05:22 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by rosettaquarrier

No Tripod foot though? Disappointing

I agree that such is welcome for a 70-210. I have a Tamron SP 70-210/3.5 (19AH) which weighs in at 930gm without adapter (about 70gm more than the new Pentax at 859gm). It has no provision for a tripod shoe and is too heavy for on-tripod use without some sort of cradle. I jerry-rigged a Canon foot to fit.

I also have the Pentax-A 70-210/4.0 at 680gm. It is quite hand-holdable and with a decent head, works fine on-tripod as well.

It is hard to say, but there appears to be a fitting for a foot on some of the photos. Let's hope that is the case. That lacking, Tamron does make a ring ($$) for their similar lens in non-Pentax-K.

Steve

**rosettaquarrier** · 01-22-2020, 05:38 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by reh321

Yes, it is "disappointing" that so few photographers understand why they were given a left hand, and will complain about what they see as shortcomings of Pentax.

And it's disappointing some folks have nothing better to do than sit around and pronounce judgement on others....

---------- Post added 01-22-20 at 05:45 PM ----------

Originally posted by luftfluss

You don't think the camera's tripod socket is up to the task?

Did I say that?

Personally I like having a tripod foot on my 60-250mm - I believe it gives more stability for long exposures than using a body mount. I understand Tamron offers an optional one for their version, my disappointment is it is not included given the premium price of the Pentax model.

**luftfluss** · 01-22-2020, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by rosettaquarrier

Did I say that?

That's why I asked - I was uncertain of your thinking, and my own knowledge of the camera's tripod socket's suitability for certain tasks is minimal.

Quote:

Personally I like having a tripod foot on my 60-250mm - I believe it gives more stability for long exposures than using a body mount. I understand Tamron offers an optional one for their version, my disappointment is it is not included given the premium price of the Pentax model.

I thought about that, but wasn't sure - I don't shoot long exposures so my tripod needs are not as stringent as yours.

**rosettaquarrier** · 01-22-2020, 06:02 PM

No problem - my take is given a camera and lens will pivot around where it is connected, without a foot you have a longer 'lever' - the lens body - to act like a sail on a long exposure. Plus I find carrying the setup by the foot can sometimes be advantageous when hiking.

Will I buy one? Most likely yes, but I'll look out for the Tamron foot.

reh321 · 01-22-2020, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by rosettaquarrier

And it's disappointing some folks have nothing better to do than sit around and pronounce judgement on others....

Personally I like having a tripod foot on my 60-250mm - I believe it gives more stability for long exposures than using a body mount. I understand Tamron offers an optional one for their version, my disappointment is it is not included given the premium price of the Pentax model.

Personally I hand hold at those focal lengths - subject motion is my largest problem, so I use shutter speeds at which a tripod would add zero 'stability'.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by rosettaquarrier No Tripod foot though? Disappointing I agree that such is welcome for a 70-210. I have a Tamron SP 70-210/3.5 (19AH) which weighs in at 930gm without adapter (about 70gm more than the new Pentax at 859gm). It has no provision for a tripod shoe and is too heavy for on-tripod use without some sort of cradle. I jerry-rigged a Canon foot to fit. I also have the Pentax-A 70-210/4.0 at 680gm. It is quite hand-holdable and with a decent head, works fine on-tripod as well. It is hard to say, but there appears to be a fitting for a foot on some of the photos. Let's hope that is the case. That lacking, Tamron does make a ring ($$) for their similar lens in non-Pentax-K. Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 01-22-2020 at 05:32 PM.

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01-22-2020, 04:12 PM	#332
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,975	Originally posted by Serkevan The main reason people are irked by the price is not the price 'in a vacuum', but that it costs almost three times (in Europe at least) the price of a new 'original' Tamron 70-210 in Canikon mount, because we are comparing launch price vs discounted price of a 1.5 year old release... although the comparison matters if you're in the market for one such lens today. After the street price goes down it will be better To be fair, we are still looking at a rumoured street price, or perhaps an MSRP.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by phoebus SRS Pentax 70-210 pre-orders Only £1199.... $1100 USD launch price here in the U.S. Originally posted by Wheatfield To be fair, we are still looking at a rumoured street price, or perhaps an MSRP. Pre-order price... https://us.ricoh-imaging.com/product/hd-pentax-d-fa-70-210mm-f4-ed-sdm-wr/ Steve

01-22-2020, 04:22 PM	#334
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by clickclick I just took a quick trip over to B&H to check out the Nikon variant, and it shows a 6 year "limited" warranty. Hhhmmmmm Tamron 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD Lens for Nikon F AFA034N-700 B&H Yep...That is the standard Tamron warranty. Steve

01-22-2020, 04:39 PM	#335
rosettaquarrier Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Sandy, UT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,096	No Tripod foot though? Disappointing

01-22-2020, 04:44 PM	#336
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,842	Originally posted by rosettaquarrier No Tripod foot though? Disappointing They're selling it as "portable". I guess the absence of a tripod foot is consistent with that.

01-22-2020, 04:56 PM - 2 Likes	#337
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by rosettaquarrier No Tripod foot though? Disappointing Yes, it is "disappointing" that so few photographers understand why they were given a left hand, and will complain about what they see as shortcomings of Pentax.

01-22-2020, 05:02 PM	#338
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,618	Originally posted by rosettaquarrier No Tripod foot though? Disappointing You don't think the camera's tripod socket is up to the task?

01-22-2020, 05:06 PM	#339
MikeyBugs95 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,206	I'm sure that the Tamron tripod foot that they sell separately will fit.

01-22-2020, 05:22 PM	#340
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by rosettaquarrier No Tripod foot though? Disappointing This lens is sub 2 lbs. It's light. You won't need the tripod foot. I've never needed the tripod foot with my Tamron version. And that version is heavier (due to the VC) than the Pentax variant. You'll be fine. If you really miss it, you can buy a CHI-NA knock off for cheap on ebay Elefront Tripod Mount Ring for Tamron 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD (Model A034) \| eBay

01-22-2020, 05:38 PM - 2 Likes	#342
rosettaquarrier Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Sandy, UT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,096	Originally posted by reh321 Yes, it is "disappointing" that so few photographers understand why they were given a left hand, and will complain about what they see as shortcomings of Pentax. And it's disappointing some folks have nothing better to do than sit around and pronounce judgement on others.... ---------- Post added 01-22-20 at 05:45 PM ---------- Originally posted by luftfluss You don't think the camera's tripod socket is up to the task? Did I say that? Personally I like having a tripod foot on my 60-250mm - I believe it gives more stability for long exposures than using a body mount. I understand Tamron offers an optional one for their version, my disappointment is it is not included given the premium price of the Pentax model.

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01-22-2020, 05:52 PM	#343
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,618	Originally posted by rosettaquarrier Did I say that? That's why I asked - I was uncertain of your thinking, and my own knowledge of the camera's tripod socket's suitability for certain tasks is minimal. Quote: Personally I like having a tripod foot on my 60-250mm - I believe it gives more stability for long exposures than using a body mount. I understand Tamron offers an optional one for their version, my disappointment is it is not included given the premium price of the Pentax model. I thought about that, but wasn't sure - I don't shoot long exposures so my tripod needs are not as stringent as yours.

01-22-2020, 06:02 PM	#344
rosettaquarrier Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Sandy, UT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,096	No problem - my take is given a camera and lens will pivot around where it is connected, without a foot you have a longer 'lever' - the lens body - to act like a sail on a long exposure. Plus I find carrying the setup by the foot can sometimes be advantageous when hiking. Will I buy one? Most likely yes, but I'll look out for the Tamron foot.

01-22-2020, 06:17 PM	#345
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by rosettaquarrier And it's disappointing some folks have nothing better to do than sit around and pronounce judgement on others.... Personally I like having a tripod foot on my 60-250mm - I believe it gives more stability for long exposures than using a body mount. I understand Tamron offers an optional one for their version, my disappointment is it is not included given the premium price of the Pentax model. Personally I hand hold at those focal lengths - subject motion is my largest problem, so I use shutter speeds at which a tripod would add zero 'stability'.