HD Pentax-D FA 70-210mm f/4 ED SDM WR

**lsimpkins** · 01-29-2020, 04:23 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

I'm asking if the coatings on the D FA 70-210 are Ricoh's HD/SP, or Tamron's own coatings which they still call HD/SP.

Quoting from the Ricoh Imaging USA website - "This lens features PENTAX’s latest HD Coating."
HD PENTAX-D FA 70-210mm F4 ED SDM WR - Ricoh

At least in my mind, this means that the coatings are Pentax originals.

**mattt** · 01-29-2020, 04:40 PM - **1 Like**

Not sure if this has been added to this multi page thread yet. Just confirmed CAD MSRP as $1,399.

I’m a buyer

thumbs up if you are too

Paul the Sunman · 01-29-2020, 11:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mattt

Not sure if this has been added to this multi page thread yet. Just confirmed CAD MSRP as $1,399.

Showing as AU$1430 on the Pentax Australia website.

... and due 10 March.

Sandy Hancock · 01-30-2020, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

Showing as AU$1430 on the Pentax Australia website.

That is considerably better than I was expecting!

wed7 · 01-30-2020, 12:58 AM

it will prolly cost around $1800 US in my country once (if) available.

noelpolar · 01-30-2020, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

That is considerably better than I was expecting!

Sshhhhhhh...!

Sandy Hancock · 01-30-2020, 03:16 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by noelpolar

Sshhhhhhh...!

I won't tell if you don't.
(I've pre-ordered before they change the price)

Kunzite · 01-30-2020, 03:40 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

and I am saying that ^that^ is a legit and important question

Great, so there was no misunderstanding.

**mattt** · 01-30-2020, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

That is considerably better than I was expecting!

That was my response too - about $200 less than expected.

JPT · 01-30-2020, 07:29 AM - **4 Likes**

It's on display some places in Japan, but available to buy until February 14. This comes from the following report, which has some images taken with it in the Osaka Ricoh Imaging Square.

HD PENTAX-D FA 70-210mmF4ED SDM WR????????????????????????????????? - ????

normhead · 01-30-2020, 07:39 AM - **3 Likes**

This lens has it all.
Ring type KAF4 motor.
"This lens features PENTAX’s latest HD Coating.* ". (As if Pentax was going to resurrect older coatings for a new lens.)

A second fast focusing telephoto to go with the DA 55-300 PLM. Electronic diaphragm and all.
All that speculation about how it could be less than a modern up to date lens for nothing. Once again, apart from the slowness of the release all that worry about Pentax producing inferior product using old tech. or whatever was nothing but anti-Pentax negativity.

How many times do you have to be wrong, before you clue in?

However, the lack of a 2x TC is still concern, along with the price.

**TwoUptons** · 01-30-2020, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by normhead

How many times do you have to be wrong, before you clue in?

However, the lack of a 2x TC is still concern, along with the price.

My television is full of people who seem to always be wrong, yet they are still paid to be on there...

I think a 1.4x teleconverter would also be really nice...

And I hope there’s a fairly rapid price dip after the initial surge... the K1 took a while to drop, but some of the lenses have dropped a little more quickly...

-Eric

**luftfluss** · 01-30-2020, 08:41 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by abraswell

Why does this lens cost as much as the competitions stabilized offerings? Those lenses are that expensive BECAUSE of IS. Nikon doesn't offer a non-VR version of the 70-200/4, but Canon does. It's only $600.

The Canon 70-200/4 non-IS is an old lens that was released over a decade ago - it is 3 generations old. The newer versions with IS are sharper, have better coatings, better AF, etc. Even the paint on the newest version is different.

biz-engineer · 01-30-2020, 08:48 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

A second fast focusing telephoto to go with the DA 55-300 PLM. Electronic diaphragm and all.

I guess Ricoh guys know how to select a lens better than me. They eventually have an optical test bench to measure lenses that I don't even have. So far, the 15-30 and 24-70 are no slouch. In fact , there are a number of reviewers said those Tamy are as good as or outclass some of the Canikon own lenses. Ricoh haven't chosen the cheapo Tamron for the K1, they'd chosen to rebardge only the best of the Tamron zoom lenses. Honestly, if a third party lens design was as good as the one from leading brands, I would even bother designing my own at the risk of it not being as good. The funny thing is the complain about a lens being originally designed by Tamron.. do you want the Tamron glass with lightning fast AF motor (and cost of development mostly paid by customers of other brands), or you want a Pentax own design with slow AF motor at double the price?

WorksAsIntended · 01-30-2020, 08:57 AM

The 24-70 is a good lense and quite cheap to get.

However I NEVER heard anybody saying the Tamron 24-70 is on the same level as the 24-70/2.8 by Sony, Z or F mount 24-70/2.8 by Nikon or the two Canons, the new one even at f2.0.
They are all generally better in optical quality and much more expensive, so it is ok.
The Tamron suffers from bad bokeh rings (the reason I do not use it).

01-29-2020, 11:42 PM - 1 Like	#753
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,847	Originally posted by mattt Not sure if this has been added to this multi page thread yet. Just confirmed CAD MSRP as $1,399. Showing as AU$1430 on the Pentax Australia website. ... and due 10 March. Last edited by Paul the Sunman; 01-30-2020 at 04:00 AM.

01-30-2020, 07:39 AM - 3 Likes	#761
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	This lens has it all. Ring type KAF4 motor. "This lens features PENTAX’s latest HD Coating.* ". (As if Pentax was going to resurrect older coatings for a new lens.) A second fast focusing telephoto to go with the DA 55-300 PLM. Electronic diaphragm and all. All that speculation about how it could be less than a modern up to date lens for nothing. Once again, apart from the slowness of the release all that worry about Pentax producing inferior product using old tech. or whatever was nothing but anti-Pentax negativity. How many times do you have to be wrong, before you clue in? However, the lack of a 2x TC is still concern, along with the price. Last edited by normhead; 01-30-2020 at 07:47 AM.

01-30-2020, 08:48 AM - 1 Like	#764
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,247	Originally posted by normhead A second fast focusing telephoto to go with the DA 55-300 PLM. Electronic diaphragm and all. I guess Ricoh guys know how to select a lens better than me. They eventually have an optical test bench to measure lenses that I don't even have. So far, the 15-30 and 24-70 are no slouch. In fact , there are a number of reviewers said those Tamy are as good as or outclass some of the Canikon own lenses. Ricoh haven't chosen the cheapo Tamron for the K1, they'd chosen to rebardge only the best of the Tamron zoom lenses. Honestly, if a third party lens design was as good as the one from leading brands, I would even bother designing my own at the risk of it not being as good. The funny thing is the complain about a lens being originally designed by Tamron.. do you want the Tamron glass with lightning fast AF motor (and cost of development mostly paid by customers of other brands), or you want a Pentax own design with slow AF motor at double the price? Last edited by biz-engineer; 01-30-2020 at 08:55 AM.

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