Ten more lenses in the pipeline.

**hjoseph7** · 05-23-2020, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by simple1

If those two happen I’ll need a second job.

If those 2 happen I can start shooting weddings with my K5 IIs...

**luftfluss** · 05-23-2020, 12:44 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by hjoseph7

If those 2 happen I can start shooting weddings with my K5 IIs...

That 16-50/2.8 is PLM; on your K-5 IIs you'll only be able to shoot wide open.

Zygonyx · 05-23-2020, 12:53 PM

Good for wedding !

**monochrome** · 05-23-2020, 04:27 PM - **2 Likes**

Just a few Early January (pre-CP+) speculations of what Asahi Man’s ten lenses in the pipeline are

Originally posted by BROO

21 mm f 4.0 D FA Limited
300 mm f 2.8 D FA*

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

70-210/4.0
* 85/1.4
* 35/1.4
ultra-wide prime
consumer 70-300
DA* 16-50 replacement
DA* 50-135 replacement

645 ultra-wide?
Fast 135?

Any other ideas?

Originally posted by ChristianRock

I have absolutely no information... but I think in those 10 there could be some reissues with HD coatings... based on FA designs:

HD D-FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited
HD D-FA 43mm f/1.9 Limited
HD D-FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited

...and how about these revamps...

HD D-FA* 24mm f/2
HD D-FA 135mm f/2.8 Limited
HD D-FA* 300mm f/4 (based on current DA* design)
HD D-FA 20mm f/2.8

on top of some Tamron lenses...
HD SDM D-FA 70-300mm f/4-5.6
HD SDM D-FA 17-35mm f/2.8-4
HD SDM D-FA 35-150mm f/2.8-4
HD SDM D-FA 150-600mm f/5-6.3 (or even better - HD SDM D-FA 200-500mm f/5.6)
aaand might as well rebadge a HD SDM D-FA 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3

That's what, 12 already

But hopefully there will be some original designs there other than the D FA* *85 1.4...

Originally posted by repaap

I’d say

24/1.4
5(7)0-300(FF) 4,5-5,6
DFA135/2.8
DFA 20/4(or wider)
DFA*200/2.8

Then probably some zooms finetuned from Tamron portfolio.
That 50-300 zoom could actually be Tamron..

Then propably some good ol classic revamps.

**S.M.** · 05-25-2020, 09:06 AM

Because they remade some FA lenses with adding only the new HD coating it is possible that in the future they do that also with the FA Macro 200mm f/4 that unfortunately is out of production by some time and is really difficult to find (both that lens and its predecessor) ?

**pres589** · 05-25-2020, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by S.M.

Because they remade some FA lenses with adding only the new HD coating it is possible that in the future they do that also with the FA Macro 200mm f/4 that unfortunately is out of production by some time and is really difficult to find (both that lens and its predecessor) ?

The FA lenses that have HD coatings and other updates, but are directly comparable to the original FA product, is the FA 35 f2 and the D-FA 100 Macro. I can't think of any others that this applies to.

I wonder what the FA 28 would be like with the HD treatment that the 35 got...

**Serkevan** · 05-25-2020, 09:40 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by S.M.

Because they remade some FA lenses with adding only the new HD coating it is possible that in the future they do that also with the FA Macro 200mm f/4 that unfortunately is out of production by some time and is really difficult to find (both that lens and its predecessor) ?

The 35/2 might have made more sense to Ricoh because the FA version was still in production and they might have had a lot of uncoated elements available, keeping the production changes to a minimum.

I'd like to see the 200/4 Macro making a reappearance (in that sleek, slick black barrel with the green ring and pyramid rubber :drools

if only to look at pictures by wealthier members

**luftfluss** · 05-25-2020, 10:05 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by S.M.

Because they remade some FA lenses with adding only the new HD coating it is possible that in the future they do that also with the FA Macro 200mm f/4 that unfortunately is out of production by some time and is really difficult to find (both that lens and its predecessor) ?

I doubt that Pentax would do an update and re-skin of a "Star" lens, and as good as the *200/4 Macro reputedly is, it is probably not optically up to Pentax's lofty standards for modern "Star" lenses.

Zygonyx · 05-30-2020, 12:46 AM

Hello,

does someone know why we only find 3 lenses in the "Featured product" section of Ricoh's Star Lenses Special Site ?

Noticeably lacking : DFA*70-200mm f/2.8 amongst recent releases...

FEATURED PRODUCT | PENTAX STAR LENS | RICOH IMAGING

Tomzohh · 06-06-2020, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Hello,

does someone know why we only find 3 lenses in the "Featured product" section of Ricoh's Star Lenses Special Site ?

Noticeably lacking : DFA*70-200mm f/2.8 amongst recent releases...

FEATURED PRODUCT | PENTAX STAR LENS | RICOH IMAGING

Becouse its allready released in 2016 4years ago? In my opinion its not recent anymore

superdave · 06-20-2020, 03:12 AM

The 300/4 is just a little longer than 60-250/4 and about the same price, even cheaper. Can't understand the such large price difference between 150-450/5.6 and 560/5.6. Why a 500/5.6 prime for less than $2500 is not in any maker lineup? Even if not optically perfect, just a little better than 150-450.

MarekMoon · 06-20-2020, 04:39 AM

That's Nice

zapp · 07-10-2020, 06:16 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by superdave

The 300/4 is just a little longer than 60-250/4 and about the same price, even cheaper. Can't understand the such large price difference between 150-450/5.6 and 560/5.6. Why a 500/5.6 prime for less than $2500 is not in any maker lineup? Even if not optically perfect, just a little better than 150-450.

Divide 450 by 5.6 and you will get a 80 mm minimum front diameter of the lens. Divide 560 by 5.6 and you need 100 mm front lens diameter. 80 and 100 play in different leagues. A 5.6/500 will not sell having a 150-450/5.6 zoom in the lineup for similar price. Spent your developer time on different glass to be much more effecitve.
Either go with what is available or ask for something serious. There is only a single 100mm front glass lens available these days and it was neither designed for FF nor for compact dimensions. Pentax probably needs to sell a couple more before even thinking about an update. DO/PF lenses would be wonderful alternatives, but only after a FF wide angle was presented, ...
Currently anything above 2000€/$... is not the prime hunting ground for Pentax. Establish the DFA* series at this price point and we may see something series in the future.

---------- Post added 10-07-20 at 03:23 PM ----------

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

Compact, lightweight super teles do not exist.....
An oxymoron...

A Nikon PF 300 or 500 is as close as it can get. Not the brightest glass, but decent and widely affordable , lightweight, compact.
The new Canon f/11 glass are far away. Diffraction will limit the quality, speed is sloooooooow, but they used the retractable design that was abandoned for the Pentax 5.6/560.

**TwoUptons** · 07-10-2020, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by zapp

A Nikon PF 300 or 500 is as close as it can get. Not the brightest glass, but decent and widely affordable , lightweight, compact.
The new Canon f/11 glass are far away. Diffraction will limit the quality, speed is sloooooooow, but they used the retractable design that was abandoned for the Pentax 5.6/560.

I’m looking forward to seeing reviews of the new Canon lenses. They are an interesting approach to long telephotos. Of course, I can get 800mm f11 with a 400 f5.6 and a 2x, though I give up compactness and autofocus in exchange for a variable aperture... and I’ve never tried autofocusing an f11 lens, even in live view...

I’d love to see a DO replacement for the Pentax 400-800 mirror lens...

-Eric

**SteveinSLC** · 07-10-2020, 08:11 AM

It's going to be interesting to see if there's a market for those Canon F11 lenses. I'd be a little surprised honestly.

As far as Pentax goes, I'd be happy to see an update of the 250-600. That would give Pentax something that competes with the very good options in that range from Tamron and Sigma that are available for Canon and Nikon, but not Pentax.

The market for the really big prime lenses like the 560 or the even bigger and more expensive options available for Canon and Nikon is really small. I'd imagine that very few people using those lenses switch systems. So even if the K-new ends up being a good body to match with such lenses, I'd be very surprised if Pentax thought it made business sense to go that way.

07-10-2020, 06:16 AM - 1 Like	#328
zapp Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,385	Originally posted by superdave The 300/4 is just a little longer than 60-250/4 and about the same price, even cheaper. Can't understand the such large price difference between 150-450/5.6 and 560/5.6. Why a 500/5.6 prime for less than $2500 is not in any maker lineup? Even if not optically perfect, just a little better than 150-450. Divide 450 by 5.6 and you will get a 80 mm minimum front diameter of the lens. Divide 560 by 5.6 and you need 100 mm front lens diameter. 80 and 100 play in different leagues. A 5.6/500 will not sell having a 150-450/5.6 zoom in the lineup for similar price. Spent your developer time on different glass to be much more effecitve. Either go with what is available or ask for something serious. There is only a single 100mm front glass lens available these days and it was neither designed for FF nor for compact dimensions. Pentax probably needs to sell a couple more before even thinking about an update. DO/PF lenses would be wonderful alternatives, but only after a FF wide angle was presented, ... Currently anything above 2000€/$... is not the prime hunting ground for Pentax. Establish the DFA* series at this price point and we may see something series in the future. ---------- Post added 10-07-20 at 03:23 PM ---------- Originally posted by Pål Jensen Compact, lightweight super teles do not exist..... An oxymoron... A Nikon PF 300 or 500 is as close as it can get. Not the brightest glass, but decent and widely affordable , lightweight, compact. The new Canon f/11 glass are far away. Diffraction will limit the quality, speed is sloooooooow, but they used the retractable design that was abandoned for the Pentax 5.6/560. Last edited by zapp; 07-10-2020 at 06:25 AM.

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05-23-2020, 12:37 PM	#316
hjoseph7 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,045	Originally posted by simple1 If those two happen I’ll need a second job. If those 2 happen I can start shooting weddings with my K5 IIs...

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luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,618	Originally posted by hjoseph7 If those 2 happen I can start shooting weddings with my K5 IIs... That 16-50/2.8 is PLM; on your K-5 IIs you'll only be able to shoot wide open.

05-23-2020, 12:53 PM	#318
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	Good for wedding !

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monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Just a few Early January (pre-CP+) speculations of what Asahi Man’s ten lenses in the pipeline are Originally posted by BROO 21 mm f 4.0 D FA Limited 300 mm f 2.8 D FA* Originally posted by Sandy Hancock 70-210/4.0 * 85/1.4 * 35/1.4 ultra-wide prime consumer 70-300 DA* 16-50 replacement DA* 50-135 replacement 645 ultra-wide? Fast 135? Any other ideas? Originally posted by ChristianRock I have absolutely no information... but I think in those 10 there could be some reissues with HD coatings... based on FA designs: HD D-FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited HD D-FA 43mm f/1.9 Limited HD D-FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited ...and how about these revamps... HD D-FA* 24mm f/2 HD D-FA 135mm f/2.8 Limited HD D-FA* 300mm f/4 (based on current DA* design) HD D-FA 20mm f/2.8 on top of some Tamron lenses... HD SDM D-FA 70-300mm f/4-5.6 HD SDM D-FA 17-35mm f/2.8-4 HD SDM D-FA 35-150mm f/2.8-4 HD SDM D-FA 150-600mm f/5-6.3 (or even better - HD SDM D-FA 200-500mm f/5.6) aaand might as well rebadge a HD SDM D-FA 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 That's what, 12 already But hopefully there will be some original designs there other than the D FA* 85 1.4... Originally posted by repaap I’d say 24/1.4 5(7)0-300(FF) 4,5-5,6 DFA135/2.8 DFA 20/4(or wider) DFA200/2.8 Then probably some zooms finetuned from Tamron portfolio. That 50-300 zoom could actually be Tamron.. Then propably some good ol classic revamps.

05-25-2020, 09:06 AM	#320
S.M. Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Merano (BZ) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 108	Because they remade some FA lenses with adding only the new HD coating it is possible that in the future they do that also with the FA Macro 200mm f/4 that unfortunately is out of production by some time and is really difficult to find (both that lens and its predecessor) ?

05-25-2020, 09:36 AM	#321
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	Originally posted by S.M. Because they remade some FA lenses with adding only the new HD coating it is possible that in the future they do that also with the FA Macro 200mm f/4 that unfortunately is out of production by some time and is really difficult to find (both that lens and its predecessor) ? The FA lenses that have HD coatings and other updates, but are directly comparable to the original FA product, is the FA 35 f2 and the D-FA 100 Macro. I can't think of any others that this applies to. I wonder what the FA 28 would be like with the HD treatment that the 35 got...

05-25-2020, 09:40 AM - 1 Like	#322
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by S.M. Because they remade some FA lenses with adding only the new HD coating it is possible that in the future they do that also with the FA Macro 200mm f/4 that unfortunately is out of production by some time and is really difficult to find (both that lens and its predecessor) ? The 35/2 might have made more sense to Ricoh because the FA version was still in production and they might have had a lot of uncoated elements available, keeping the production changes to a minimum. I'd like to see the 200/4 Macro making a reappearance (in that sleek, slick black barrel with the green ring and pyramid rubber :drools if only to look at pictures by wealthier members

05-25-2020, 10:05 AM - 1 Like	#323
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,618	Originally posted by S.M. Because they remade some FA lenses with adding only the new HD coating it is possible that in the future they do that also with the FA Macro 200mm f/4 that unfortunately is out of production by some time and is really difficult to find (both that lens and its predecessor) ? I doubt that Pentax would do an update and re-skin of a "Star" lens, and as good as the *200/4 Macro reputedly is, it is probably not optically up to Pentax's lofty standards for modern "Star" lenses.

05-30-2020, 12:46 AM	#324
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,032	Hello, does someone know why we only find 3 lenses in the "Featured product" section of Ricoh's Star Lenses Special Site ? Noticeably lacking : DFA*70-200mm f/2.8 amongst recent releases... FEATURED PRODUCT \| PENTAX STAR LENS \| RICOH IMAGING

06-06-2020, 05:05 AM	#325
Tomzohh Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 44	Originally posted by Zygonyx Hello, does someone know why we only find 3 lenses in the "Featured product" section of Ricoh's Star Lenses Special Site ? Noticeably lacking : DFA*70-200mm f/2.8 amongst recent releases... FEATURED PRODUCT \| PENTAX STAR LENS \| RICOH IMAGING Becouse its allready released in 2016 4years ago? In my opinion its not recent anymore

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06-20-2020, 03:12 AM	#326
superdave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 228	The 300/4 is just a little longer than 60-250/4 and about the same price, even cheaper. Can't understand the such large price difference between 150-450/5.6 and 560/5.6. Why a 500/5.6 prime for less than $2500 is not in any maker lineup? Even if not optically perfect, just a little better than 150-450.

06-20-2020, 04:39 AM	#327
MarekMoon New Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2	That's Nice

07-10-2020, 07:39 AM	#329
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,207	Originally posted by zapp A Nikon PF 300 or 500 is as close as it can get. Not the brightest glass, but decent and widely affordable , lightweight, compact. The new Canon f/11 glass are far away. Diffraction will limit the quality, speed is sloooooooow, but they used the retractable design that was abandoned for the Pentax 5.6/560. I’m looking forward to seeing reviews of the new Canon lenses. They are an interesting approach to long telephotos. Of course, I can get 800mm f11 with a 400 f5.6 and a 2x, though I give up compactness and autofocus in exchange for a variable aperture... and I’ve never tried autofocusing an f11 lens, even in live view... I’d love to see a DO replacement for the Pentax 400-800 mirror lens... -Eric

07-10-2020, 08:11 AM	#330
SteveinSLC Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 568	It's going to be interesting to see if there's a market for those Canon F11 lenses. I'd be a little surprised honestly. As far as Pentax goes, I'd be happy to see an update of the 250-600. That would give Pentax something that competes with the very good options in that range from Tamron and Sigma that are available for Canon and Nikon, but not Pentax. The market for the really big prime lenses like the 560 or the even bigger and more expensive options available for Canon and Nikon is really small. I'd imagine that very few people using those lenses switch systems. So even if the K-new ends up being a good body to match with such lenses, I'd be very surprised if Pentax thought it made business sense to go that way.