PENTAX K-1 Discontinued

**BruceBanner** · 02-26-2020, 01:54 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Oktyabr

The MK2's accelerator chip seemed to deal with high ISO better (12800 and above) but I don't like any more "in camera" processing than absolutely necessary, especially when shooting raw. Ultimately it was the price difference between the two, used, when I made the switch. Stepping back "down" to the mark 1 freed up more money to throw towards the 150-450 that I bought at roughly the same time.

Both are excellent bodies but if I had to do it again? I'd take a lightly used mk1 over a new mk2, assuming a significant savings could be found.

Sensible observations. I always said the best thing the K-1ii does is reduce the price and availability of the K-1

**Serkevan** · 02-26-2020, 02:08 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Oktyabr

The MK2's accelerator chip seemed to deal with high ISO better (12800 and above) but I don't like any more "in camera" processing than absolutely necessary, especially when shooting raw. Ultimately it was the price difference between the two, used, when I made the switch. Stepping back "down" to the mark 1 freed up more money to throw towards the 150-450 that I bought at roughly the same time.

Both are excellent bodies but if I had to do it again? I'd take a lightly used mk1 over a new mk2, assuming a significant savings could be found.

Money was my main reasoning, I found a very lightly used (under 2000 shots) mk1 for ~900€ and any Mk2 would have been at least 3-400€ more.

thibs · 02-27-2020, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Money was my main reasoning, I found a very lightly used (under 2000 shots) mk1 for ~900€ and any Mk2 would have been at least 3-400€ more.

Ouch this a heck of a good deal

Ben-G · 02-27-2020, 03:04 PM

K-1 forever !

**RobA_Oz** · 02-27-2020, 03:11 PM - **5 Likes**

Originally posted by Ben-G

K-1 forever !

The K-1 is dead: long live the K-1! *

* – mine, hopefully.

**Serkevan** · 02-28-2020, 12:52 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by thibs

Ouch this a heck of a good deal

And I got 10% credit back from Ebay, AND it came with a 128GB card. I was humming happily for days.

thibs · 02-28-2020, 06:26 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Serkevan

And I got 10% credit back from Ebay, AND it came with a 128GB card. I was humming happily for days.

So would I...

Postumus · 03-10-2020, 06:26 PM

Definitely gone. Can't even find a new one on Ebay

**Rondec** · 03-11-2020, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by Postumus

Definitely gone. Can't even find a new one on Ebay

In the US Amazon still has them for 1500 (handled by a third party company).

biz-engineer · 03-11-2020, 04:26 AM - **1 Like**

This is bad news. Ricoh could offer a K1 II to K1 I downgrade service (replace motherboard) for customers who don't want the accelerator chip.

**Serkevan** · 03-11-2020, 04:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

This is bad news. Ricoh could offer a K1 II to K1 I downgrade service (replace motherboard) for customers who don't want the accelerator chip.

Seeing as the sensor is basically ISO-invariant, couldn't you shoot at ISO 100 and push in post?

FWIW I would upgrade my K-1 to Mk2 in a second if it were free.

biz-engineer · 03-11-2020, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Seeing as the sensor is basically ISO-invariant, couldn't you shoot at ISO 100 and push in post?

That doesn't work because data in raw files are no the same when shot at ISO100 or higher ISO. That was how a composite stack average of underexposed exposures produced banding, and another stack of added underexposed exposures doesn't show banding, although the total amount of exposure was the same in both cases. The raw file data is not the sensor data, explains why it's not the same to correct exposure in post versus using higher ISO.

thibs · 03-11-2020, 04:52 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

This is bad news. Ricoh could offer a K1 II to K1 I downgrade service (replace motherboard) for customers who don't want the accelerator chip.

Ridiculous isn't mandatory IMO.

xandos · 03-11-2020, 05:48 AM

Some shops in Japan still carry the K-1. Fujiya in Nakano (tokyo) interestingly has it for nearly the same price as the special edition KP (~133.000 yen). The K-1 mark 2 is about 211k yen in the same shop.

gatorguy · 03-11-2020, 06:32 AM

At least as of yesterday Amazon still had new original model K-1's, $1499.00. They had one "used" for $1300-something

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02-26-2020, 01:54 PM - 2 Likes	#31
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,404	Originally posted by Oktyabr The MK2's accelerator chip seemed to deal with high ISO better (12800 and above) but I don't like any more "in camera" processing than absolutely necessary, especially when shooting raw. Ultimately it was the price difference between the two, used, when I made the switch. Stepping back "down" to the mark 1 freed up more money to throw towards the 150-450 that I bought at roughly the same time. Both are excellent bodies but if I had to do it again? I'd take a lightly used mk1 over a new mk2, assuming a significant savings could be found. Sensible observations. I always said the best thing the K-1ii does is reduce the price and availability of the K-1

02-26-2020, 02:08 PM - 2 Likes	#32
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by Oktyabr The MK2's accelerator chip seemed to deal with high ISO better (12800 and above) but I don't like any more "in camera" processing than absolutely necessary, especially when shooting raw. Ultimately it was the price difference between the two, used, when I made the switch. Stepping back "down" to the mark 1 freed up more money to throw towards the 150-450 that I bought at roughly the same time. Both are excellent bodies but if I had to do it again? I'd take a lightly used mk1 over a new mk2, assuming a significant savings could be found. Money was my main reasoning, I found a very lightly used (under 2000 shots) mk1 for ~900€ and any Mk2 would have been at least 3-400€ more.

02-27-2020, 02:01 PM	#33
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Serkevan Money was my main reasoning, I found a very lightly used (under 2000 shots) mk1 for ~900€ and any Mk2 would have been at least 3-400€ more. Ouch this a heck of a good deal

02-27-2020, 03:04 PM	#34
Ben-G Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 171	K-1 forever !

02-27-2020, 03:11 PM - 5 Likes	#35
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by Ben-G K-1 forever ! The K-1 is dead: long live the K-1! * * – mine, hopefully.

02-28-2020, 12:52 AM - 1 Like	#36
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by thibs Ouch this a heck of a good deal And I got 10% credit back from Ebay, AND it came with a 128GB card. I was humming happily for days.

02-28-2020, 06:26 AM - 1 Like	#37
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Serkevan And I got 10% credit back from Ebay, AND it came with a 128GB card. I was humming happily for days. So would I...

03-10-2020, 06:26 PM	#38
Postumus Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 141	Definitely gone. Can't even find a new one on Ebay

03-11-2020, 02:37 AM	#39
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Postumus Definitely gone. Can't even find a new one on Ebay In the US Amazon still has them for 1500 (handled by a third party company).

03-11-2020, 04:26 AM - 1 Like	#40
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	This is bad news. Ricoh could offer a K1 II to K1 I downgrade service (replace motherboard) for customers who don't want the accelerator chip.

03-11-2020, 04:34 AM - 1 Like	#41
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by biz-engineer This is bad news. Ricoh could offer a K1 II to K1 I downgrade service (replace motherboard) for customers who don't want the accelerator chip. Seeing as the sensor is basically ISO-invariant, couldn't you shoot at ISO 100 and push in post? FWIW I would upgrade my K-1 to Mk2 in a second if it were free.

03-11-2020, 04:51 AM	#42
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by Serkevan Seeing as the sensor is basically ISO-invariant, couldn't you shoot at ISO 100 and push in post? That doesn't work because data in raw files are no the same when shot at ISO100 or higher ISO. That was how a composite stack average of underexposed exposures produced banding, and another stack of added underexposed exposures doesn't show banding, although the total amount of exposure was the same in both cases. The raw file data is not the sensor data, explains why it's not the same to correct exposure in post versus using higher ISO.

03-11-2020, 04:52 AM - 1 Like	#43
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by biz-engineer This is bad news. Ricoh could offer a K1 II to K1 I downgrade service (replace motherboard) for customers who don't want the accelerator chip. Ridiculous isn't mandatory IMO.

03-11-2020, 05:48 AM	#44
xandos Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 120	Some shops in Japan still carry the K-1. Fujiya in Nakano (tokyo) interestingly has it for nearly the same price as the special edition KP (~133.000 yen). The K-1 mark 2 is about 211k yen in the same shop.

03-11-2020, 06:32 AM	#45
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	At least as of yesterday Amazon still had new original model K-1's, $1499.00. They had one "used" for $1300-something