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**monochrome** · 03-23-2020, 05:12 PM

I need a good lens lust fantasy for a few months

**TwoUptons** · 03-23-2020, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Development officially announced 22 minutes ago at 10pm UTC.

Development in progress of the lens HD PENTAX-D FA★85mmF1.4 SDM AW - RICOH IMAGING EUROPE S.A.S

Lens mount: KAF4
Minimum focusing distance: 0.85m
Maximum magnification: 0.12x
Filter diameter: 82mm
9-blade diaphragm (rounded)

Maximum magnification at 0.12 is a little better than the Samyang/Rokinon 85mm f1.4 at 0.10, so it will not be able to play macro on weekends, but it should focus close enough to not annoy too many people.

The FA* and A* f1.4s had a magnification of 0.11, so the new one's a little better there, too... (though the M85 f2.0 is 0.13...)

-Eric

**BROO** · 03-23-2020, 05:25 PM - **1 Like**

I expect it will cost 10-20% more than the 50. That would put it at about US$1300.

**BigMackCam** · 03-23-2020, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by BarneyL

They announced development? I thought they have been developing it for more than a year now...

I don't believe this means they've just started developing it, especially considering the info provided. They're just breaking cover officially...

**pres589** · 03-23-2020, 06:52 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by TwoUptons

The FA* and A* f1.4s had a magnification of 0.11, so the new one's a little better there, too... (though the M85 f2.0 is 0.13...)

-Eric

Clearly the M85 is the best (joking, sort of).

OoKU · 03-23-2020, 07:50 PM

In addition, the materials used by Star 85 are very luxurious.
Used 3 super ED
This fluorite grade glass
Only 2 tablets were used on DFA70-200 / 2.8
3 lenses for one fixed focus
Too extravagant ~

Wheatfield · 03-23-2020, 07:54 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by pres589

Clearly the M85 is the best (joking, sort of).

Perhaps I will compare this new lens, the A*85/1.4 and the M85/2.

I've found that f/8 is the great equalizer.

Class A · 03-23-2020, 08:29 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pres589

Clearly the M85 is the best (joking, sort of).

In my view the M85/2 is an excellent lens. It is very small and has a super smooth bokeh. There are lenses that resolve better but the overall feel of M85/2 images is just great.

There seems to be something about lenses with very thick lens elements (the 55/1.8 is another one) that appeals to me.

Class A · 03-23-2020, 08:31 PM

I hope they got the bokeh right on the new 85/1.4. If so, I'll buy it for sure.

My Rokinon 85/1.4 is super nice but only MF.

Vnosek · 03-23-2020, 11:16 PM

Yes !! Yes!!! Yes!!!
I will love it

The best lens in the World ever

**fs999** · 03-24-2020, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by TwoUptons

Maximum magnification at 0.12 is a little better than the Samyang/Rokinon 85mm f1.4 at 0.10, so it will not be able to play macro on weekends, but it should focus close enough to not annoy too many people.

An extension tube will do it

Mistral75 · 03-24-2020, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by fs999

An extension tube will do it

A KAF4 one, then.

thibs · 03-24-2020, 01:55 AM

I don't think it is needed.
I "simple" (rare I know) KAF2 should do it IMO

Mistral75 · 03-24-2020, 03:22 AM

There are some discrepancies between the various press releases concerning the (tentative) launch date of the HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW:

French and German press releases: 2020
English press releases (both the one from Ricoh Imaging UK and the one from the Japanese website): late 2020
Japanese press release: second half of 2020

I would be inclined to follow the Japanese one... with a big, though implicit, 'or later'.

Kunzite · 03-24-2020, 04:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I don't believe this means they've just started developing it, especially considering the info provided. They're just breaking cover officially...

I don't get why people feel entitled to be informed precisely when Ricoh Imaging starts development of a product, and not a day later

It was the same with the K-new: the "nothing was done before the September announcement" outrage.

03-23-2020, 05:12 PM	#32
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,227	Originally posted by Mistral75 Development officially announced 22 minutes ago at 10pm UTC. Development in progress of the lens HD PENTAX-D FA★85mmF1.4 SDM AW - RICOH IMAGING EUROPE S.A.S Lens mount: KAF4 Minimum focusing distance: 0.85m Maximum magnification: 0.12x Filter diameter: 82mm 9-blade diaphragm (rounded) Maximum magnification at 0.12 is a little better than the Samyang/Rokinon 85mm f1.4 at 0.10, so it will not be able to play macro on weekends, but it should focus close enough to not annoy too many people. The FA* and A* f1.4s had a magnification of 0.11, so the new one's a little better there, too... (though the M85 f2.0 is 0.13...) -Eric

03-24-2020, 03:22 AM	#44
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	There are some discrepancies between the various press releases concerning the (tentative) launch date of the HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW: French and German press releases: 2020 English press releases (both the one from Ricoh Imaging UK and the one from the Japanese website): late 2020 Japanese press release: second half of 2020 I would be inclined to follow the Japanese one... with a big, though implicit, 'or later'.

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03-23-2020, 05:12 PM	#31
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	I need a good lens lust fantasy for a few months

03-23-2020, 05:25 PM - 1 Like	#33
BROO Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 656	I expect it will cost 10-20% more than the 50. That would put it at about US$1300.

03-23-2020, 05:31 PM	#34
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,704	Originally posted by BarneyL They announced development? I thought they have been developing it for more than a year now... I don't believe this means they've just started developing it, especially considering the info provided. They're just breaking cover officially...

03-23-2020, 06:52 PM - 2 Likes	#35
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,533	Originally posted by TwoUptons The FA* and A* f1.4s had a magnification of 0.11, so the new one's a little better there, too... (though the M85 f2.0 is 0.13...) -Eric Clearly the M85 is the best (joking, sort of).

03-23-2020, 07:50 PM	#36
OoKU Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 740	In addition, the materials used by Star 85 are very luxurious. Used 3 super ED This fluorite grade glass Only 2 tablets were used on DFA70-200 / 2.8 3 lenses for one fixed focus Too extravagant ~

03-23-2020, 07:54 PM - 2 Likes	#37
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Originally posted by pres589 Clearly the M85 is the best (joking, sort of). Perhaps I will compare this new lens, the A*85/1.4 and the M85/2. I've found that f/8 is the great equalizer.

03-23-2020, 08:29 PM - 1 Like	#38
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by pres589 Clearly the M85 is the best (joking, sort of). In my view the M85/2 is an excellent lens. It is very small and has a super smooth bokeh. There are lenses that resolve better but the overall feel of M85/2 images is just great. There seems to be something about lenses with very thick lens elements (the 55/1.8 is another one) that appeals to me.

03-23-2020, 08:31 PM	#39
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	I hope they got the bokeh right on the new 85/1.4. If so, I'll buy it for sure. My Rokinon 85/1.4 is super nice but only MF.

03-23-2020, 11:16 PM	#40
Vnosek New Member Join Date: May 2017 Photos: Gallery Posts: 16	Yes !! Yes!!! Yes!!! I will love it The best lens in the World ever

03-24-2020, 01:23 AM	#41
fs999 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Luxembourg Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,648	Originally posted by TwoUptons Maximum magnification at 0.12 is a little better than the Samyang/Rokinon 85mm f1.4 at 0.10, so it will not be able to play macro on weekends, but it should focus close enough to not annoy too many people. An extension tube will do it

03-24-2020, 01:47 AM	#42
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by fs999 An extension tube will do it A KAF4 one, then.

03-24-2020, 01:55 AM	#43
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	I don't think it is needed. I "simple" (rare I know) KAF2 should do it IMO

03-24-2020, 04:04 AM - 1 Like	#45
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by BigMackCam I don't believe this means they've just started developing it, especially considering the info provided. They're just breaking cover officially... I don't get why people feel entitled to be informed precisely when Ricoh Imaging starts development of a product, and not a day later It was the same with the K-new: the "nothing was done before the September announcement" outrage.